John Marston vs Johnny Klebitz

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John Marston vs Johnny Klebitz is a death battleby Hopkins1032, pitting Johnny Klebitz the protagonist of Grand Theft Auto IV: The lost and Dammed against John Marston, the protagonist of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2.

Description

GTA vs RDR! Which rockstar games protagonist that was part of a gang, and had no choice but to kill that gang leading to there deaths will win?

Interlude

B: Gang life, it can be tough at times, it can also be a way of life that your forced into.

W: Like for John Marston, the Gun-slinging, robbing outlaw from Red dead Redemption.

B: And Johnny Klebitz, the criminal, badass biker from Grand Theft Auto IV: The lost and the Dammed.

W: And it's our job to analyze their armor, weapons and skills to find out WHO would win a DEATH BATTLE!

Johnny Klebitz

(Cue GTA IV: TLAD theme song)

W: In liberty City, there exists a biker gang called the lost mc, with the billy grey as there leader. But he also had a second in command, a man named Johnny Klebitz.

B: Jonathan Klebitz was born in 1974 in Acter, Alderney to a Jewish family. According to Billy Grey, it was him who brought young Klebitz in the gang. Johnny's criminal record shows rigorous activity between 1991 and 1994, when Johnny would have been between 17 and 20. He was put in prison soon after, and had a parole violation in 2000, meaning he did up to six years. Klebitz tells a friend of Thomas Stubbs that he has not had an annual salary since he "punched out license plates for a year in the joint."

W: His equipment includes:

• Sawed-off Shotgun
• Assault Shotgun
• Automatic 9mm
• Grenade Launcher
• Desert Eagle
• Bazooka
• SMG
• Grenade
• Pipe Bombs
• Sniper

B: He has some incredible, sick badass feats too, such as:

• Successfully Broke into a Highly guarded Prison with Terry, Clay and other lost MC members.
• Can take on hundred LCPD units on his own.
• Murdered Billy Grey
• Murdered Brian Jeremy and his bodyguards
• Has successfully fought and killed numerous Angel of Death members. \
• Fought his way through Chinese Triad members.
• Kidnapped Roman Bellic with Malc.
• Successfully stole $2 Million worth of Heroin.
• Manged to Trick, Ambush and Kill some corrupt cops with Jim Fitzgerald.
• Escaped his way through a cop ambush.
• Killed Thomas Stubbs Uncle and Escaped a Four star Cop chase.
• Killed and entire building of Drug Addicts to save his girlfriend.
• Escaped the Police many times.
• Escaped an ambush From Brian Jeremy's gang.
• Stole Gay Tony's diamonds, and killed Evan Moss.
• Escaped a Museum full of mafia members.

• Escaped Ray Boccino with the help of Jim Fitzgerald, and killed Rays hitmen tracking him down.

W: His Strength: Physical appearance wise, Johnny is brawny, burly and heavily built. He can scale to Niko Bellic, who broke Dardan Petrelas arm easily, punches and combos can kill people easily, can deform and break car glass with his punches and knocked out Gracie Ancelotti with a single punch.

B: His intelligence: He wants to think all plans and actions through and doesn't want to make any risky decisions. He shows some hesitation about killing people whom he thinks deserve it. He also has his limit about killing. He is reluctant to kill Brian Jeremy and Billy Grey because he considered them as his friends in the past. He also asks Elizabeta if killing so many people is really necessary. Overall, Johnny's attitude about murder seems to be that he is capable of doing so in cold blood but believes that the murder should be justified. Johnny is also much more headstrong and sensible than the other bikers in the mc.

W: Speed: Johnny is the slowest out of the GTA IV protagonists. All though he can roll on the ground side ways, and despite being slow he has alot of stamina.

B: And last but not least, Durability: He can survive high-speed crashes and being shot out of the windshield into walls at high speeds. He can also take high-caliber rounds to the face at point-blank range and still keep going. Can survive one rocket launcher from a short distance shot before dying and can also survive high dives into water and emerge unharmed and has a higher chance with Body Armor on.

B: Hey wiz is there any way I can join the Lost MC?

W: Boomstick, there fictional, and even if there real they disbanded in 2008. Anyways, back to what i was saying.

W: Despite all these feats, Johnny has weakness:

• Despite breaking up with Ashley, he got back together with her and moved to Los Santos.
• While in Los Santos he got hooked on meth.
• Meth made him weaker.
• Was killed by Trevor Philips.
• He is very easily angered and will become aggressive and violent when provoked.
• Johnny will always carry out orders given to him even if he disagrees with them, but will vent his frustration when doing so.

• He was very easily intimidated by Trevor and seemed to have lost most of his courage.

“A brother might stab you in the back, a woman certainly will, but a bike will never let you down.”

— Johnny Klebitz

Credit to whoever made the Vs Battle, Death battle and GTA wiki page for Johnny Klebitz.

John Marston

(Cue Jim Milton Rides Again)

(Due to wanting to make this fight fair, John will not have access to dead eye or tracking)

B: In the 1800s, there was once a gang called the Van Der Linde gang. In this gang, there was one member that was in a death ba- I meant ran away and started a family. And that man.... was John Marston.

W: John Marston was born in 1873. His father was an illiterate Scottish immigrant who was born on the boat to New York, while his mother was a prostitute, who died during John's birth. John initially lived with his father, a man who loved Scotland and always talked about it. However, he was blinded in a bar fight south of Chicago and died at some point later, when John was eight years old. The circumstances around his death are unknown, although John was told that he died in the bar fight.

John was subsequently sent to an orphanage, where he spent the next few years. He eventually ran away and tried to make his own luck living out in the streets. At the age of 11, John committed his first murder when he shot a man, although he claimed it was not his fault. In 1885, at the age of 12, Marston had been caught stealing by homesteaders in Illinois, who planned on hanging him. Dutch van der Linde stepped in and saved the young boy, taking him under his wing; John was thus inducted into the Van der Linde gang, alongside Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, and Susan Grimshaw. The gang became a surrogate family to the young boy, with Dutch becoming his mentor and father figure. He taught John how to read, shoot, hunt, gather, and instilled him with a love of nature and things other than power.

John developed into an experienced outlaw, running with Dutch, Hosea, Bill Williamson, Arthur Morgan, Javier Escuella and several others, committing robberies, raids, murders, kidnappings and other crimes across the American frontier.

B: He has a lot accomplishments (feats) under his belt.

• Was one of the men who was a part of and survived the Blackwater Massacre (RDR2)
• Survived getting attacked by a gang of Wolves and left to die on a mountain for a few days (RDR2)
• Assisted in killing hundreds of members of the O'Driscoll Gang (RDR2)
• Came up with the idea of a brilliant Train Robbery (RDR2)
• Successfully helped rob a train full of rich people and guards  (RDR2)
• He even helped kill an army of Law Men afterwards (RDR2)
• Survived and was involved in the Valentine shootout (RDR2)
• Helped steal a bunch of expensive Horses along with Javier and Arthur Morgan (RDR2)
• Assisted in killing many members of the Braithwaite Family along with the rest of the Van Der Linde Gang
• Killed a group of Grave Robbers (RDR2)
• Was one of the men who broke into Angelo Bronte's home (RDR2)
• Assisted in the Saint-Denis Bank Robbery (RDR2)
• With the help of Arthur Morgan, he planted a shit tonne of dynamite on a train bridge (RDR2)
• Along with Arthur, he killed an army of Pinkertons (RDR2)
• Beat the shit out of one of the Laramie Boys (RDR2)
• Killed Micah and got revenge for Arthur Morgan (RDR2)
• Survived getting shot by a shotgun in the chest although he was knocked out afterwards (RDR1)
• Helped Bonnie MacFarlane patrol her property and killed a group of coyotes afterwards (RDR1)
• Killed Walton and his gang (RDR1)
• Eliminated the Bollard gang and saved the hostages (RDR1)
• Killed a gang while trying to save a man from bleeding to death (RDR1)
• Killed an army of bandits with the help of the police and saved the Farmers who were taken as hostages (RDR1)
• Killed an army of Bill Williamson's group with the help of the police (RDR1)
• Used the Trojan Horse method to kill Bill Williamson's group (RDR1)-Killed Bill Williamson (RDR1)
• Killed Javier even though had a bigger headset when running away (RDR1)
• Was responsible for making Dutch Van Der Linde kill himself (RDR1)
• Died sacrificing himself to save his wife Abigail and his son Jack Marston (RDR1)

His strength:

• Physically scales to Arthur Morgan who can snap necks with little to no effort with a choke hold
• Is able to rip the skin off a Rabbit with little effort (RDR2)
• Can fight against animals like Bears and other large animals (RDR2)
• Knocked out Angelo Bronte with just one punch (RDR2)
• Beat the shit out of one of the Laramie Boys with ease (RDR2)
• Can choke people to death in just a matter of seconds (RDR2)

• Can knock normal grown men and women out with just 3 punches (RDR2)

His intelligence:

• Is very experienced due to his many years in the Van Der Linde
• Came up with the brilliant idea of a perfect train robbery where he left a cart full of flammable objects in front of the train (RDR2)
• As a veteran of Dutch’s gang, John is proficient in combat and wilderness survival

His speed:

• Physically scales to Arthur Morgan who can dodge bullets and react at speeds of Mach 2
• Dodged a point-blank punch to the face by one of the Laramie Boys with ease (RDR2)
• With his Dead Eye he can react and shoot people and objects at speeds of about Mach 2 or maybe even higher (RDR1 and RDR2)
• Chased down and killed Javier who had a much bigger head start (RDR1)

His Durability:

• Physically scales to Arthur Morgan who can survive getting mauled at by Bears, Tigers and Cougars and still live to tell the tale
• Survived getting attacked by a gang of Wolves and left to die on a mountain for a few days (RDR2)
• Tanked getting hit in the face by a gun that was thrown at him (RDR2)
• usually survives getting shot multiple times at once and still keep on going (RDR1 and RDR2)
• Was attacked and slashed in the stomach by a bear multiple times and he got up like it was nothing (RDR2)
• Survived getting hit smashed into by Bulls going at full speed (RDR2)
• Survived getting shot by a shotgun in the chest although he was knocked out afterwards (RDR1)
• Survived getting hit by Molotov's and explosives (RDR1)
• Even when he was shot maybe ten twenty times he was still alive for a few seconds (RDR1)

Weapons:

• Various revolvers and pistols
• Various reapters and rifles
• Hunting Knife
• Various Shotguns
• Lasso
• Fire Bottle (motolov)
• Dynamite
• Throwing knifes
• Tomahawks

B: WOW! This guys badass! More than that 'Joanny kleebutz' dude.

W: Don't think that too quickly, because he still has weaknesses.

Weaknesses:

• Still Human as even though he usually survives getting shot many times he can still die after being shot too many times like what happened to him in the main story
• Dead Eye lasts only a maximum of 20 Seconds and afterwards, he is left open to be shot by his attacker
• Can't Swim and can only paddle for a couple of seconds before drowning
• Was arrested in the Saint Denis bank robbery

• Isn't really the smartest in the gang

"People don't forget. Nothing gets forgiven."

Credit to gladiator-animator

Pre-Death Battle

W: Alright the combatants are set! Its time for a DEATH BATTLE!

Death Battle

1:03 AM, Desert, New Austin

Johnny Klebitz was riding his motorcycle in the desert, trying to keep his mind off what was happening in his life. “Man, Brain and Billy betraying me, the gangs starting to fall apart and Ashley is still a fucking addict.” As he was riding his bike, he heard someone call out “Hey! Partner!” Johnny slowed down and turned around, to see a Man in a cowboy hat, black vest and a tan shirt on a brown horse.

That man, was John Marston.

“Hey partner.” The man said. “My names John Marston, and I’m looking for a fella named Johnny Klebitz.” Johnny then realized what this ‘john’ had been looking for. “Wait a minute.” he said. “Lemme take a look at your face.” Johnny, not knowing what to do and getting nervous, punched John in the face and sped off. “Aw shit its him!” John said, as he got on his horse, chasing after the biker.

As john got close to him, he shot Johnny's tires, making him swerve out of control. “AW FUCK!” Klebitz screamed as he fell of his motorcycle. He fumbled, but successfully got out his pistol and shot Johns horse in the head. “AW HELL!” John screamed as he tumbled off his stallion. Johnny aimed his pistol at the outlaw but was disarmed, forcing him to use his fists.

FIGHT!

Johnny imminently went to punch but was countered and punched in the stomach by John. John went for an uppercut but his swing was dodged and instead he got two punches in the face. The two kept trading punches, blocks and dodges until Johnny got impatient and pulled out a knife. “Oh so that's how where doing this!?” John shouted as he pulled out his own hunting knife.

The two began swinging at each other, mostly blocking and dodging each others swings. But when johnny went to ‘swing’ at John, luckily for him, John dodged by moving backwards. Using this, Johnny pulled out his automatic pistol and fired at John, running for cover. Thankfully for John, he was fast enough to pull out his open cattleman revolver, and shoot back, getting himself into cover. As John and Johnny traded fire with each other. They both thought How the hell am I going to kill this fucker? Johnny Hatched a plan while john pulled out a second cattleman revolver.

“Ah shit I’m outta ammo!” Johnny screamed. Nice try John remarked in his head. But he wasn’t remarking anymore when he heard the sound of Klebitz actually reloading his gun. John ran over to Johnnys location, only to be met with a sawed-off shotgun pointing right at him. As johnny fired, but it did nothing but make John stumble back. “What the?” Johnny said to himself at he got back into cover and reloaded his shotgun.

John practically fell back into cover. He was panting heavily. He pulled out a Health tonic from his satchel and drank it. He felt much better, and his wounds were healed. As he pulled out his own double barrel shotgun. As john crept up on Johns hiding spot with his smg in hand. He was ready to just kill this dude.

As john got out of cover he was met face to face with his target. He instantly went to tackle him. After he tackled him he struggled with him, trying to point his shotgun at his face to blow his head off. But, john was lucky enough, because Johnny punched John off of him. When john went to get his double barrel shotgun, it was kicked away by the gangster. Johnny went to shoot John but was to late as John rolled out of the way and pulled out his repeater, as they both shot at each-other.

They kept rolling around and getting behind rocks for cover while they were shooting. Eventually, John shot Klebitz in the kidney, wounding him. “Aw my fucking kidneys.” John, using this shot Johnny right in the head……. But it had Zero. Fucking. Effect.

“What the hell?” John said in confusion.

Johnny got his Carbine Rifle out and began firing at john until he had him pinned behind a rock. Johnny also got into over behind some other rocks, while still peaking from the side hoping john would come out.

“You wanna live? Put all your guns on the ground and run away! I promise I won’t shoot you in the back dude!” Johnny said tauntingly.

“I’m just fine here!” John responded.

“Your a wiseguy, huh? Won’t be so wise when I’m done!” Johnny shouted.

“I never considered my self a wise guy, just a cold blooded killer!”

Right when John finished his sentence, he heard something hit the ground right where he was crouching. He looked over and saw a grenade thrown right next to him. He ran away from the rock, he heard Johnny shooting his Carbine rifle but he didn't care. As he ran far enough he heard the gerndae explode behind him. He also heard Johnny say something.

“You know what dude, lets settle this with melee combat.”

He turned around and saw him put away his guns and pull out a bat.

John, now walking towards him pulled out his machete.

“Okay friend, lets do this.”

The two charged at each other, swinging at each other. With either Johnny hitting John with his bat or John slicing Johnny with his machete. Until John tried to grapple Johnny but was reversed by him, causing them to get into a struggle. Unfortunately for John, Johnny overpowered him and hit him in the kneecap, and then in the stomach. Causing him to fall on the ground Johnny mounted him and tried to him John in the head with his baseball bat, only for John to block his swing. Johnny pushed his bat on his machete. He tried desperately to Overpower and hit him in the head. Unfortunately for Johnny, felt Johns grip loosen. He pushed even more, not realizing why he had loosened his grip. It was to late, as he felt the punch on Johns hand on his left cheek and the kick from Johns Leg Push him off.

As he was pushed off, he lost his bat in the process, as he tried to get up, he was punched by John, making him stay on the ground. As John mounted the Outlaw biker, he punched him four times in the face, and then pulled out his knife, he turned it upside down, and tried to stab him, with blocking it by holding the knife with his hands. “You gonna die yet, mister?” John said to him, tauntingly. “Nah, I think I’ll stay alive for six more years.” “Very funny, Johnny.”

As John began to slowly push down harder, Johnny put his whole hand around Johns knife. He increased his grip so hard that his hand started to bleed. Johnny finally reached his bat and hit john in the abdomen, causing him to fly a short distance off of Johnny.

“OOF” John yelled in pain.

They both got up, panting and exhausted.

“You Know, your good for a hillbilly.” Johnny said insultingly.

“And your bad for a biker.”

John pulled out his hunting knife yet again and went straight to stab Johnny, but Johnny Dodged and disarmed the bounty hunter. Taking his knife away from him. Johnny went to stab John, but his hit was blocked, and John instead hit Johnny, again and again. He kept on getting blows on him, making continuous bruises and scars on Johnny face. He hit him harder and harder, with each blow getting more blood out and more and more punches were knocking the biker down to the ground.

Soon, Johnny got a lucky block and stabbed john in the stomach. John hit the Knife out of Johnny's hand. Johnny pulled out his assault shotgun, with John following up by him pulling out his Evans repeater.

And they were back to were they started, hiding behind cover and shooting at each other.

Until John though of something.

A plan.

As they traded shots, John pulled out his equipment necessary for his plan.

Dynamite.

Fire bottle.

Just as he was thinking. Johnny Klebitz shouted out:

“Getting scared, Cowboy!” Johnny shouted tauntingly

“No, YOU should be the one scared, Johnny boy!”

“What?” Johnny boy said in confusion back.

Just as he said that he saw a red stick fly up wards and near him.

“Oh you mother FUCKER!” Johnny shouted.

He ran away just as the dynamite exploded.

He ran left from the rock, he looked at Johns direction, aiming his gun, only to see a Motolov flying straight at him. He leaped even more to the left, but unfortunately for him and fortunately for John the flames from the fire bottle had caught onto his foot, setting it on fire.

Johnny screamed as he flailed around, trying to get the fire off of him.

John knew that this was his only chance, so he peeked out of his cover, aimed at Johnny and unloaded every round he had into him, Johnny's screams getting loud until, there were no screams from him at all.

K.O.

“Whew, that was long fight, that feller must have been in some gang as well.” John walked off to beechers hope, while Johnny Klebitzs body is eaten by vultures.

Results

(Cue American Venom)

B: Woah! What a cool plan!

W: While John and Johnny may have been equal in strength, John was far ahead of Johnny in everything else.

B: Lets start off with: strength: John is able to knock out people in five to six punches, he can break free from grizzly bears, cougars and alligators, he beat and lift up a gang leader, he knocked out Angelo Bronte with just one punch, he can choke people out in seconds, he can tackle and drown almost anybody, can fight more than 6 people at once and is younger and more in shape than Johnny Klebitz.

W: Intelligence: John Marston was far more intelligent than Johnny. He thinks plans when planning and even while in the middle of a shoot outs. Hes been in the outlaw life sense age 12., which not only makes him a good criminal but also proficient in combat and wilderness survival.

B: Speed: He was faster than Johnny Klebitz, being able to run minutes on end with his stamina regenerating. Dodged a point-blank punch to the face by one of the Laramie Boys who was fast enough to topple John and chased down and killed Javier who had a much bigger head start.

W: And, his durability: Survived getting attacked by a gang of Wolves and left to die on a mountain for a few days, tanked getting hit in the face by a gun that was thrown at him, was attacked and slashed in the stomach by a bear multiple times and he got up like it was nothing, can Survived getting shot by a shotgun in the chest although he was knocked out afterwards, and can get shot with bullets and can continue like nothing happened. Even when he was shot maybe ten twenty times he was still alive for a few seconds.

B: And he had more weapons and ammo types, as well as tonics that could heal him in battle.

W: Johnny Klebitz may have been a good criminal and a damn badass biker, but Johns strength, durability, speed and intelligence won him the battle of the rockstar protagonists named John.

B: Looks like Johnny Klebitz is MarsDONE.

W: The winner is John Marston.

Trivia

• This is my Third battle.
• The connection between John and Johnny is that their rockstar games protagonists that are named John, and have extremely similar character traits. More examples of there similarity can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/ds4did/johnny_klebitz_john_marston_similarities/