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Ghost Rider vs Makoto Niijima

Ghost Rider vs Makoto: Death Battle

Description[]

Ghost Rider vs Makoto Niijima. These 2 aren't just hot bikers, they are justice bringing hot bikers. Will the Spirit of Vengeance punish the wicked or will he Queen deliver the Fist of Justice?

Intro[]

Wiz: Ghost Rider. The burning Spirit of Vengeance from Marvel.

Boomstick: Makoto Niijima. The tactical Phantom Thief from Persona.

Wiz: There are those who want to serve justice to those who sinned. And sometimes those people have the power to do it in their own way.

Boomstick: But these 2 always makes sure to have a kick ass ride to catch those evildoers. He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick.

Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor and skills to see who would win a Death Battle.

Ghost Rider[]

Wiz: Let's get one thing straight, everyone can sin. No matter who you are, no matter how good a person may seem, they have sinned at least once in their life. And for some, sinned worse than the rest of us. For those who have sinned ever so greatly, if you hear the sound of a motorcycle with a fire track...

Boomstick: Pray to whatever god you believe in, for you have pissed off the Ghost Rider.

Wiz: But before he became a burning Sans, Johnny Blaze was nothing more than a stuntman with a dramatic childhood. After his father died in a horrible stunt accident, Johnny was adopted by Crash Simpson.

Boomstick: Who just so happens to be another stuntman. He grew up, learning everything from Crash in the special art of stunting. Buuuuuuuuuuut everything turned south when Crash's wife just so happened to die in stunting accident. And life bit him in the balls even harder when he found out that Crash had cancer. Literally the guy's family can't catch a break.

Wiz: But Johnny wasn't going to have another family member die. He was so determined to keep Crash alive, he would do anything to fix him.

Background[]

  • Real Name: Jonathan Blaze
  • Height: 6'2 feet
  • Weight: 220 lbs
  • Former Stuntman
  • Bonded with Zarathos
  • Can piss fire

Boomstick: Which for some reason means that he would sell his soul to satan himself.

Wiz: Or more specifically Mephisto. After the deal was done Crash's cancer was no more.

Boomstick: But the dumbass decided it's still good to do stunts and guess what happens after that? And this time was even worse as Mephisto pulled the strings to his own death, meaning Blaze was stuck being a slave to the devil himself.

Wiz: But not entirely, because due to Crash's daughter Roxanne, Mephisto was banished before he could collect Blaze's soul.

Boomstick: But not before Mephy slapped his soul with a demonic being called Zarathos.

Wiz: You see, thousands of years ago, Zarathos was a powerful demon who threatened Mephisto but was soundly defeated. But even then, Zarathos was a bit too dangerous for Mephisto to use as a lackey. So over the course of thousands of years, he merge Zarathos with a human host in order for him to collect more souls. And in that merging came the next Spirit of Vengeance, Ghost Rider.

Boomstick: Oh man and if his design wasn't already badass as it is, he comes with a badass kit to serve justice to the wicked. He has superhuman strength, speed and durability. He can tank loads of pain and keep on going, and to make things worse for his enemies, he has ridiculous regeneration. He can regenerate from many means of damage. From having his head blown off or even having his entire body blasted to smithereens.

Wiz: This unbelievable healing factor stems from his most iconic ability, his Hellfire. A form of fire that can directly attack your soul and burns it to a crisp. He can throw it as fireballs, conjure massive fire walls and even create fiery explosions that spans a city block.

Boomstick: Which can be perfect for blowing up mountains or even entire countries if he feels like it. But Hellfire isn't all about... well fire. He can grow in size, read minds, possess those trying to steal his powers, transport people into other dimensions and conjure up weapons out of thin air. Like an endless supply of chains, daggers or even a demonic freaking hellfire shotgun. But his personal favorite is his Hell Cycle. Literally putting the Rider in Ghost Rider.

Popup: The Ghost Rider's transportation vehicle isn't limited to just a bike. Him and other Ghost Riders have showcased riding horses, cars, Iron Man armors, Silver Surfer's board and even Celestials.

Wiz: The Hell Cycle is bonded to its user and can even function when he's not operating it directly. It can be summoned from practically anywhere and ignore the laws of physics. It can go up wall, on water, fly through the air and even travel into alternate dimensions.

Abilities[]

  • Hellfire Manipulation
  • Hell Cycle
  • Hellfire Chains
  • Demonic Shotgun
  • Godlike Regeneration
  • Size Manipulation
  • Portal Creation
  • Mind Reading
  • Possession
  • Sin Sensing
  • Soul Manipulation
  • Penance Stare

Boomstick: And you better bet your ass that it's fast too. So fast that it can even outrace Mjolnir thrown by Thor. You know the dude who once strapped Loki to Mjolnir and threw his ass all the way to Asgard at quote "almost the speed of thought". Try to wrap your head around that.

Wiz: While Asgard's distance to Earth is somewhat questionable, it has been described as being beyond human comprehension, so we can assume a minimal distance of a single universe. Since the radius of Marvel's universe is about 1 trillion light years and taken into account that a speed of a person's thinking process is about a quarter of a millisecond, Mjolnir had to have been thrown at speeds over 252 Quintillion times faster than light.

Popup: This is consistent with other characters who Ghost Rider scales too. Like Doctor Strange who was cast far outside the universe only to return to his original position in only a matter of seconds.

Boomstick: But even that is nothing compared to his deadliest power. If you just so happens to be so sinful, all he has to do is look you dead in the eyes and put you in a penance.

Wiz: This is his signature Penance Stare. A technique where he forces you to feel the pain and suffering of all those who have been hurt by their hands. Literally making you feel their pain and suffering. No matter how small the sin is, the Rider will make you regret your decision. Even something as small as thinking of hurting someone is enough to make the Ghost Rider angry.

Boomstick: But wait if that's the case, doesn't that mean the sin hasn't happened? And how the hell does he know when a person is thinking of hitting someone?

Wiz: Well best thing I can come up with is... hell magic?

Boomstick: Ok well despite his "weird aspects", Ghost Rider has proven time and time again that he's an absolute powerhouse. He's strong enough to pull down skyscrapers, quick enough to catch bullets in his teeth, pulled a Rules of Nature and hurled a construction vehicle into the air and skilled enough to hold his ground against the Avengers.

Wiz: But these feats pale in comparison to what the Rider is truly capable of. Many of these feats were when the Ghost Rider was restricted. In fact another reason why Mephisto bonded Zarathos to a human host was so he can limit his full potential. Should Johnny fall, Zarathos can take full control of his body and literally all hell is let loose.

Boomstick: Oh hell yeah. While unrestricted his powers increase dramatically, his fire gets bigger, hotter and much more dangerous. So strong that even the Sorcerer Supreme himself was scared sh*tless when he gets unleashed. In fact Doctor Strange believed that him unrestricted can even down the World War Hulk. We've estimated his level of power before and his power output can match that of over 2.3 million universes. That very same Hulk can even fight on even footing with Sentry, who blitzed Ares, who's battle with X-Man took place in the span of Planck Time. You know the smallest unit of time that can realistically be measured?

Wiz: But that's far from his limit. Other Ghost Riders who Johnny is comparable to have performed even crazier feats. Like when a woman named Alejandra defeated Mephisto in his own realm. Who was able to contend with the likes of Galactus and fight Hela to the point their "Omniversal Armageddon" would put the events of Ragnarok to shame. Needless to say the Ghost Rider is no joke.

Feats[]

  • Leveled a Mountain
  • Took over Hell after dethroning Mephisto
  • Considered a potential candidate for Sorcerer Supreme
  • Survived hits from World War Hulk
  • Fought off the Avengers
  • Survived getting Penance Stared
  • Defeated Thor, Doctor Strange, Lucifer, Blackheart, Mephisto

Boomstick: Even when the archangel Zadkiel did what Satan failed to do when taking over heaven, Ghosty just summoned a hoard of other Ghost Riders and ended his sh*t. Seriously how the hell does anyone stand a chance against someone like him?

Wiz: Well there are quite a number of ways. Specifically the use of holy weaponry which can greatly dampen his healing factor. And despite his Penance Stare's power it does have a couple of downsides as the person must have a soul in order for it to work.

Boomstick: That or if you're blind, or if you have a symbiote, or if your power is the from pains of others, or if your Thanos who's fetish is literally other people's pain. But despite all of that he is still one of Marvel's most powerful beings. And after kicking Mephisto's ass, Johnny took over Hell as it's new king.

Wiz: So maybe now, you would think twice before you make a move, for if you act in sin, you can bet your soul that the Ghost Rider will be there to claim your soul so long as the one true god allows it.

Ghost Rider: This thing... there's no conscience, just hunger. The Rider's going to come out, and when he does, he'll destroy whoever's got it coming.

Makoto Niijima[]

Wiz: At first glance, Tokyo Japan may seem like a normal run of a mill city, but there is only so much things that the mere eye can see.

Boomstick: Yeah, there are a lot of massive douchebags running amok in the city with a lot of people are turning a blind eye. Luckily for humanity, there are a group of people who have what it takes and bring justice to those very douchebags.

Wiz: These were the Phantom Thieves. And their goal is to put an end to the corrupt people in Japan. I would say world but they never expanded their work outside of their country.

Boomstick: Can you blame them? They're teenagers who has a talking cat, they don't got the money for that. Anyways a great majority of their ranks were left with no place in society that will accept them and wanted to make a difference. Including their tactical decision maker, Makoto Niijima.

Wiz: Before she became a Phantom Thief, she was your typical high school class president who's main goal was to live up to everyone else's expectations.

Boomstick: You see her dad was a cop and it wouldn't be long until he was lost in the line of fire. Ever since then her older sister Sae was placed a heavy responsibility and put pressure on Makoto to be her very best. Buuuuuuuuuut as time went on, Sae's view on Makoto became more of a burden on herself and less of a family member. And things were even worse as student council president since the PE teacher Kamoshida was a bit too abusive to his students and she was forced to turn a blind eye.

Wiz: But everything changed when the Phantom Thieves emerged and "stole" Kamoshida's heart, causing him to be a changed man. Coincidently the Thieves just so happens to be students at her school and she was able to deduce their identity.

Boomstick: So to see if they were good or bad, she blackmailed their asses to solve a mafia problem. During their process and Makoto's own personal life she wanted to prove to be of help to someone and forcibly helped the Phantom Thieves track down the mafia's head honcho.

Wiz: But it turns out her actions made things a lot worse. Now she and the Phantom Thieves were pawns to the Mafia.

Boomstick: But it wasn't all bad. Heck you might even say that it was a saving grace. Since she was a "customer" to the mob, she helped the Phantom Thieves infiltrate his palace to steal his heart. With nothing else better to do she decided to help the Thieves, becoming their tactical specialist. All under a sweet codename, Queen.

Background[]

  • Age: 18
  • Height: 5'3 ft
  • Weight: N/A
  • Alias: Queen/The Fist of Justice
  • 6th Member of Phantom Thieves
  • Looks like the twin sister of Lady from Devil May Cry

Wiz: And you wouldn't want to go into battle without some trusty skills and weapons to aid you in a battle against Shadows. In fact out of all the other members, she's the only one to been train in any form of Martial Arts.

Boomstick: She specializes in Aikido, a martial art that centers around self defense and holistic self improvement. Allowing them to defend from typical hand to hand combat and improving their mind along with their body. Which given her stats seems to match her to a T.

Wiz: Thanks to it she's a force in close quarters combat with her trusty Brass Knuckles but she isn't afraid if she has to fight her foes from a distance with her trusty revolver. While the model differs from time to time, typical revolvers tend to have 9mm bullets with a muzzle velocity of about 1000 fps.

Boomstick: But what doesn't make sense is why doesn't she use a Glock? You know the guns that police typically uses for their handguns? Seems like a missed opportunity to connect with the family.

Wiz: And just like her teammates, her phone as access to an app called the Metaverse Navigator. With it she can traverse from the real into the Metaverse, a realm linked to the collective consciousness. Literally moving from real to the unreal. But even then Fists, guns and a dimension hopping phone app can only do so much against a hoard of shadows. Which is why real strength lies within her Persona.

Boomstick: And I got to say, her Persona is awesome. I mean cmon it's a freaking motorcycle. All with cool name. Joe Mama!!!

Wiz: Johanna!!!

Boomstick: Whatever. Her unlocking her Persona granted her a lot more abilities as she specializes in Nuclear type energy. Even when not in uses, her Persona awakening increased her abilities to superhuman levels. She can strike hard enough to dent metal and tough enough to survive a big ass piggy bank explode while she's next to it. It also lets her take Nuclear attacks without much issues. She can even imbued her strikes with Nuclear energy making her attacks hit even harder. How does that work?

Wiz: It's hard to say. It could be possible she's giving off the radiation that real life nukes gives off. Something that can be fatal to a person's DNA if given enough doses.

Equipment/Abilities[]

  • Brass Knuckles
  • Revolver
  • Nuclear resistance/immunity
  • Johanna/Anat/Agnes
    • Freidyne/Mafreidyne
    • Atomic Flare
    • Energy Shower
    • Rakukaja/Marakukaja
    • Vajia Blast
    • Flash Bomb
    • Nuke Boost/Amp
    • Evade Psy
    • Checkmate

Boomstick: That's nice. She uses these Nukes for many different attacks. Moves like Freidyne can causes massive explosions but if she want's her moves to have a bit more range she can always use Mafreidyne. And if she really wants to be deadly she can always use her strongest attack, Atomic Flare.

Wiz: Though her Persona isn't just about throwing nukes. With Rakukaja she can increase her defense, with Diarahan she can heal her wounds, Vajia Blast can cause a massive non nuclear blast and Flash Bomb can create explosions comparable to a flash bang.

Boomstick: With powers like these, she proved to be a major help to the Phantom Thieves which help give her what she needed most. The ability to help people. But the one person she wanted to help the most was her sister. Which was a troublesome task since her sis was really close to the police who were tracking the Thieves down for committing a crime they didn't do.

Wiz: Which while problematic didn't stop her from getting it done. But over the course of the story, her resolve to help people pushed her powers even greater than before.

Boomstick: Which pushed her Persona to reach a new level of power, Anat. Which is a freaking Transformer. With Anat, her resistance to Nuclear damage grew into a full on immunity and further increased her power. Though in other stories she did loses her confidence in herself and began to doubt herself all over again. But don't worry since the Haremf*cker protagonist himself retaught her what she wanted most and regained her confidence.

Popup: While Royal is a separate continuity to the mainline story, her capabilities distributes similar levels to it's mainline counterpart and will be applicable in the analysis.

Wiz: And with this boost, her Persona obtained it's real form. Agnes.

Boomstick: Basically Joe Mama with a black paint job and without the Hasbro influence. With it, she can use Checkmate which boosts all of her stats instead of just defense. Allowing her to hit harder and move quicker than before. With them, Makoto has accomplish many crazy feats.

Wiz: She's quick enough to dodge gunfire, lightning and even beams of light. In fact another Phantom Thief, Sophia was even quick enough to to intercept a laser after it was fired. Despite being far from the battle the thieves were taking part in.

Boomstick: Based on the distance the laser were from the thieves, Sophia must have had to acted in 9 Nanoseconds. And if we were to assume the distance she had to have traveled was similar to a football field, she had to have moved about 10.5 times faster than light.

Feats[]

  • Infiltrated multiple Palaces
  • Changed her sister's heart without stealing her heart
  • Survived Piggytron exploding
  • Survived in an artificial vacuum
  • Took hits from Maruki
  • Defeated Kaneshiro, Wakaba and Sae

Wiz: And that's not taken into account scaling from other members. The leader of the thieves Joker can even summon a giant laser fired from a distance star and she's quick enough to be on par with him.

Boomstick: During their battles they have taken on some powerful mofos. Like Wakaba, who can create gusts of winds strong enough to blow off Pyramid tops and her teammate Ryuji can even tank explosions of entire shopfronts. But in her crazier territory, the palaces itself can even be considered universes and she's even defeated the head of said palaces.

Wiz: Well that's debatable. But it is worth noting that even if they are, she has never showcased the ability to match this level of power. Only destroying palaces by removing a person's treasure, which is the only thing that can keep a palace from going boom.

Boomstick: Though coincidently she and the Thieves did fight a living treasure cup called Yaldaboth. An entity that merged Mementos and our world. Sure the thieves did needed help from an outside source, but later they would go on to fight similar foes without such help. Like the Reality Warper Maruki and the Demiurge, who is basically Yaldacup 2.0.

Wiz: Now despite her might challenging world mergers , she is far from flawless. Her Personas are typically weak to psychokinetic energy attacks, which can be fatal. That and her skills do tend to use her own stamina. The stronger her attack is the quicker her power is drained.

Boomstick: To make things dumber, her powers only works in the Metaverse. Take her outside of it and she's just a normal human. Plus it doesn't help that despite working in the shadows, she's kind of a wuss. Something that she has never gotten over. But, dark light phobia aside she still prevailed.

Popup: While others Persona users have used their Personas in the real world, it requires a high level of will to pull off. Something Makoto has never showcased.

Wiz: Even after saving the world multiple times and relinquishing her powers, her time with the thieves has made her a much better person. She even manage to repair her bond with Sae. Needless to say, don't mess with the Fist of Justice.

Makoto: I can feel it... Myself... Me!

DEATH BATTLE[]

We start off in a palace. As for which one we're in, let's just say that the battlefield is a recreation of Junya Kaneshiro's palace. Does it make sense? No but it doesn't need to be. Inside the palace we see someone training against shadows with a bike with a blue streak. Makoto Niijima had just finished her fight against the Shadows with a last surprise.

Makoto: They sure felt that one.

She was ready to head out of the palace, but something caught her eyes. She sees what appears to be a Hell Biker approaching her. While she's not exactly wrong for assuming that, she would then know that this Hell Biker was a lot different once it got closer. In front of her stands the Ghost Rider. Makoto took time to analyze the foe standing in front of her and engaged in conversation.

Makoto: You look like a Hell Biker, but I can tell that you are not. What are you?

Ghost Rider just stood there, not saying a word. But he eventually raised his right arm and pointed at Makoto.

Ghost Rider: Makoto Niijima. You sins have caused pain onto others.

Makoto was of course taken back from this and tried to justify herself.

Makoto: Sinned? You know what I have done has helped many people and you say I have sinned?

Ghost Rider just walked up to her looking more pissed off.

Ghost Rider: Have your heroics helped the girl Shiho Suzui? You knew what Kamoshida did to her and all of the others, yet you turned a blind eye.

Makoto didn't know what to say, on top of not knowing how the Ghost Rider knew. She then grew hostile as he approached her.

Makoto: That was a long time ago. I didn't have what it took.

Ghost Rider: Yet you blackmailed those who did. You had what it took yet you acted not to do anything. Your sins will not go unmeasured.

He reached his arm out to Makoto only for her to punch him in the jaw, causing it to become dislocated. She then proceeded to send him flying with a kick.

Makoto: I am not the same girl I was back then. So either leave or answer to my fist.

Ghost Rider got up while moving his jaw back in its original position.

Ghost Rider: Hard way it is then.

Makoto tried to act first but Ghost Rider pulled out his Shotgun first. Makoto then jumped back as quickly as she leaped forward and barely dodged his shotgun shells. She then pulled out her Revolver and the two began to exchange bullets. Makoto was dodging Ghost Rider's bullets but he was just taking her bullets without much pushback. Makoto then got the a lucky shot and shot his shotgun off of his hands. He was taken back from this of course but not before she threw a few punches on him. She jumped in the air to prepare another punch but the Ghost Rider summoned a chain out of thin air and encased her arm in it. He engulfed it in fire which caused her to scream in pain but not before being thrown into the neighboring building. Ghost Rider then tried to follow but heard her saying something.

Makoto: Diarahan!!!

By the time Ghost Rider realized what she has done, Makoto had summoned Anat and impaled Ghost Rider with it's arm blades. Ghost Rider didn't like this idea and so encased Anat in fire. This did cause pain to Makoto so she retaliated by shooting a Friedyne point blank. This sent Ghost Rider flying back but Makoto didn't want Ghost Rider to recover, so she then proceeded to fire multiple Friedyne at him. He avoided some of them while he was summoning his Hell Cycle. Anat fired 1 last Friedyne which missed as Ghost Rider was saved by his bike. He then revved up his bike egging Makoto to race him.

Makoto: Is that how it's going to be?

She summoned Agnes and then raced the Ghost Rider. The two rode down a city street with each trying to land hits with their vehicles. It got to the point where the two got up on top of their bikes and started throwing hands. Makoto threw a punch but Ghost Rider encased it with his chains again. Only this time he decided to use his Penance Stare on her. But before he got a chance to do so, Agnes proceeded to use Flash Bomb to blind Ghost Rider temporarily. He was sent forward in front of Makoto which she followed up by performing a special attack.

Makoto: It's Showtime!!!

She drove around Ghost Rider, encasing him in Nuclear energy before jumping up on top of him to deliver as she likes to put it...

Makoto: FIST OF JUSTICE!!!!!!!

She threw one last punch causing the ground to erupt in a Nuclear explosion. But this wasn't enough as Ghost Rider retaliated with a Hellfire explosion large enough to eclipse her explosion... as well as a few city blocks. It was at this time Zarathos has taken full control and wants his share of the fight. Makoto tries to escape by using the Metaverse Navigator to enter Mementos. She arrives there but unfortunately she didn't escape. As she turned around she sees a portal with Zarathos literally hot on her trail. She then turns around and activates Checkmate. It was thanks to this boost that she was able to hold her own with the Spirit of Vengeance. Zarathos fires a blast of Hellfire with enough force to smash through multiple stone walls but Makoto narrowly avoids his attack. She then grabs hold of Zarathos and with another use of the Metaverse Navigator teleports them into her sisters Palace. Zarathos then sends Makoto flying with a punch sending her to the top of a building near her sister's shadow's casino.

Zarathos: Enough running. Your deeds will not go unpunished.

Zarathos then summoned a buttload of chains and encased the Casino with them. Makoto looks in shock but it didn't end there. Zarathos then heated up some of the chains to melt through the lower part of the Casino. With that he pulled the chains with enough force to send the Casino flying towards Makoto. She then responds to this by preparing Atomic Flare. But she didn't use it to blow away the Casino. No she then summoned Agnes to ride the top side of the building to fire the attack on Zarathos.

Makoto: Atomic...

She then flew across the sky where she had a clean shot on Zarathos. With him in sight she fired.

Makoto: FLAREEEEEEE!!!!!!

With those words a massive explosion eclipsed Zarathos and annihilated the building he was standing on, along with about 100 meters around them. After the explosion Makoto landed on the ground exhausted and held her fist in the air. As she did though a chain came out of nowhere and encased her arm for a third time. Only instead of throwing her into buildings and immobilizing her it instead heated up to a point where her arm was burned off her body. She screams in pain only to see that Zarathos survived with only the part of his body that was missing were replaced with Hellfire. But regardless he was pissed.

Zarathos: My turn.

He held onto Makoto's head and then proceeded to summon a massive fiery explosion that encased both of them. After the explosion Zarathos was holding on to a skeletal body that was once Makoto's. It then turned to dust after a breath of air was blown by Zarathos. He then summoned his bike and left the Metaverse with a hot streak behind him.

RESULTS[]

Announcer: KO!!!

Boomstick: Dammit! We have to add another Waifu to the list.

Wiz: Makoto may have been a powerful adversary in her own rights but against the Ghost Rider, she met her match.

Boomstick: A great majority of her battle experiences were usually with a team and even then, it usually spans about a year at most while the Ghost Rider have been doing this job for many years. And that's not taken into account Zarathos himself who's even older than both.

Popup: While there is a similar foe in Persona called the Hell Biker, it has never been showcased the abilities on Ghost Rider's level such as rapid healing and soul manipulation.

Wiz: Experiences aside, Makoto was also not capable of matching the Ghost Rider in speed. Comparing Makoto to Sophia and comparing Ghost Rider to Mjolnir, he was over 24 Quintillion times faster.

Boomstick: But that's just movement speed, but even in their reaction speed with distance star laser and Planck timing combat, the Ghost Rider would be capable of fighting foes over 4 Septillion times faster than Makoto at worst.

Popup: This is an estimate assuming that Morning Star was fired from the farthest star we can visibly see and the second it takes for it to be used in P5S. It's likely that in reality it could be slower given certain presentation between each games.

Wiz: With a speed difference this wide, Makoto would have had an incredibly hard time to land any sort of fatal hit in. Which even then the Ghost Rider was more than tough enough to take whatever Makoto threw at him.

Boomstick: Sure Ghosty can blow up mountains while she can take a giant piggybank exploding but that's far from their limits since they can extend to the universal tier. There is only 1 problem. Marvel has a much bigger radius than our own with a radius of about 1 trillion light years while the universe that Makoto's inhabits is really about the same size as our own observable universe. Sure you can say that her tangling with beings like Yaldaboth who could theoretically connect with all of the palaces in the world which can be considered universes in size.

Wiz: However the issue is that it is impossible to estimate just how many palaces there are in the world. If we're going off of what we do know, Yaldaboth controlling multiple universes would still be over 900 times less than destroying a single Marvel Universe. Even if the number was higher, we know that as Zarathos, him being on the same level as World War Hulk would reportable grant him power of over 2 million universes.

Boomstick: And EVEN then if Yaldy's power extended beyond that, she has never showcased the ability to fight on it's level. Yeah she did fair better against Demiurge and Maruki who's powers were directly compared to it, but it still required multiple allies to either wither it down or distract them long enough to exploit a glass cannon weakness. Something that she has no experiences with doing alone and something that Ghost Rider has no weakness to.

Wiz: Speaking of weaknesses that's another thing that was keeping her from ending the Ghost Rider. Her inability to use holy skills. The only thing that can end the Ghost Rider.

Popup: While she does have equipment that would allow her to use holy skills, Ghost Rider's enormous speed advantage wouldn't allow Makoto to land a decent hit on him when she needed too.

Boomstick: And she would have a terrible time trying to hang in long enough to deduce his tactics. Both could heal wounds and her Checkmate power boost would prove useful at first, but they still require a great majority of her stamina to use. Which is something that Ghost Rider's powers don't suffer as much from.

Wiz: Ultimately Makoto just didn't have what it would take to end the Ghost Rider's might, as appose to the many ways Ghost Rider could have ended the fight.

Boomstick: Yeah, like burning her soul from the inside out, straight up over powering her or if he wants to be dirty, just take her outside of the Metaverse, place her in hell and just kill her in that realm.

Wiz: To be fair, she wasn't going to go down without a fight. But at the end of the day she just couldn't keep up with Ghost Rider's soul magic, regenerative capabilities, blitzing speed and overwhelming firepower.

Boomstick: In the end, Makoto just couldn't take the heat.

Wiz: The winner is the Ghost Rider.

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