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Four vs The Collector is a What-If? Death Battle made by Ivan*kirbo. It pits Four from BFDI against The Collector from The Owl House.

Four vs The Collector

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Watching and Screaming
Season 1
Season Episode 1
Air date TBA
Written by Ivan*kirbo
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Description[]

Chaotic beasts with childish minds clash!!! Will the Collector have another toy to play with or will Four crush the Collector in the palm of their hand?

Interlude[]

Neutral Ivan: A child's mind is surprisingly complex. Able to do anything it wants. Able to dream big with no limitations. Able to think of incomprehensible stuff.

Chaos Ivan: But what if all that was put inside a god?

Neutral Ivan: Like the Collector, The playful child of the Boiling Isles.

The Collector title card!

The Collector title card

Chaos Ivan: And Four, host of BFB.

Four title card!

Four title card

Neutral Ivan: He's Ivan and I'm Ivan and it's our hobby to put our favorite characters to the death!

Chaos Ivan: Now let's see who would win this death battle!

Note: This battle contains spoilers for both The Owl House and the BFDI series. For the best experience, please watch both shows first!

The Collector wants to play in DEATH BATTLE![]

Now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEciiT-IPco

The Collector title card

The Collector wants to play in Death Battle!

Chaos Ivan: Long ago in the Demon Realm, long before any witches roamed the boiling isles, there were Titans.

Neutral Ivan: These Titans roamed the planet they lived on freely and were very powerful. The titans were huge and easily dominated over every other creature. That was until the Collector came.

Chaos Ivan: The Collector came from a celestial race that tried to research everything in the universe called the Archivists. While little is known about them, we know that there were four Archivists, three being tall and orderly. One being bratty and childish. Can you guess who's the Collector?

Background:[]

- Species: Part of a celestial race that collects and researches everything in the universe.

- Age: At least hundreds, if not millions of years old.

- Is genderless but mostly referred to as "he."

- Has a shadow form.

- Canonically has become a Pac-Man like shape.

- His best friend is King.

- He was trapped in something that looked like an ultra ball from Pokemon.

Neutral Ivan: Poor Collector was shunned by his siblings. They practically hated him. They hated him so much they tricked him into going to the planet which the Titans inhabited. But the Collector actually enjoyed the place. He was especially fond of the little baby Titans. Aww how cute!

Baby King

A baby titan!

Chaos Ivan: Too bad for the Collector because his siblings saw how powerful the Titans were. They probably thought, "Hmmmm, our little brother's having fun. He can't have fun! Let's kill everyone he loves!" So they began to kill every single Titan! Including the babies! Soon, only one Titan remained. And, boy, he was furious! Thinking the Collector killed them, he trapped the Collector in another dimension, turning the Collector into a two-dimensional shadow.

Neutral Ivan: Stuck for centuries, the Collector grew bored. That was until Philip Wittabane came to his rescue. Otherwise known as Belos.

Chaos Ivan: And BOY, Belos is not a good person. He's a witch hunter and only seeks genocide. But The Collector was filled with desperation and gullibility. The Collector made a deal with Belos: The Collector helps Belos move his plans while Belos works to free The Collector.

Neutral Ivan: Unfortunately, this deal was filled with lies. Belos got immense power from the Collector, gaining authority over the boiling isles and becoming one of the most powerful sorcerers of all time. Meanwhile, Belos did almost nothing to help the Collector! And when Belos finally got everything he wanted, he simply tossed away the Collector, hoping to never see him again.

Chaos Ivan: What was he thinking when he made that deal?

Neutral Ivan: Chaos, he's still a child!

Chaos Ivan: Please! When I was five, I was gambling to my heart's content and never lost!

Neutral Ivan: Five?!? B-but ho-

Chaos Ivan: Moving on here. Turns out, throwing the Collector was possibly the best thing he's ever done. Because the Collector ended up meeting King, everyone's favorite character voiced by Alex Hirsch. Unlike Belos, King was a good fellow and became the Collector's friend immediately (Although it was originally not his choice). King made a deal with the Collector: The Collector helps his friends and gets freed. This however wasn't the smartest choice. The Collector ended up terraforming the environment and turning almost everyone into his personal playthings.

Neutral Ivan: Gamb-bling? F-five?

Chaos Ivan: Snap out of it would ya!?

Neutral: Oh! Sorry. Anyways, the Collector has many abilities. Let's discuss them shall we?

Abilities:[]

- Reality manipulation

- Shadow manipulation

- Creation magic

- Levitation

- Matter manipulation

- Energy blasts

- Transmogrification

- Shapeshifting

- Petrification

Neutral Ivan: The Collector possesses many powers, including some common ones like levitation, supernatural strength, and durability.

Chaos Ivan: That's only scratching the surface. He can teleport himself and others, change his size and form, shoot powerful energy blasts, and use magic!

Neutral Ivan: His magic is the most powerful on the entire boiling isles. In fact, all of Belos' powers come from the Collector. This includes fire, ice, petrification, poison, and the ability to drain others' magic.

Chaos Ivan: He can turn you into a doll and control you! Trap you in a scroll! Create flash bangs! Fill your mind with visions! Control shadows! Lift you up with telekinesis! Enhance his vision! Detect others almost instantly! And use many star shaped attacks.

Neutral Ivan: There are many star shaped things the Collector can summon. A large star he can ride on like a certain pink puffball. Energy blasts that look like miniature stars! Star shaped meteors that explode when they hit the ground. Even living star shaped creatures!

Chaos Ivan: The Collector can manipulate matter to change it to his liking. He once ripped open the Titan's head and changed it to the Archive House!

Neutral Ivan: Wish I could open my own head and change it to my liking...

Chaos Ivan: And why may that be?

Neutral Ivan: Some things I've seen have scarred my mind. I want to forget it all.

Chaos Ivan: Oh, come on! My search history wasn't that bad.

Neutral Ivan: Yeah... Not that bad...

Chaos Ivan: Anyways, the Collector can also manipulate reality and the stars in the sky! Let's talk about that, shall we?

Feats:[]

- Changed the entire boiling isles into his image

- Held up his castle/crown

- Can scale to Luz's magic which flew to the atmosphere

- Moved the moon with one finger

- Moved stars to make constellations

- Made a bedroom with entire star systems in it

- Beat Belos, Eda, Amity, Hooty, King, Luz, e.t.c

Neutral Ivan: The Collector is no joke. With his dreamy waves, he changed the entire boiling isles! The boiling isles have been inconsistent in size but they can be anywhere from the size of Vermont, to the size of an entire continent!

Chaos Ivan: The Collector one shot Belos in his monster form! This monster form of Belos was already one of the strongest beings on the boiling isles. Stronger than Luz who could create huge icebergs, light glyphs that can vaporize flesh that covered most of the boiling isles, and even create a light glyph that flew into the sky and became a star (0:39-0:55)!

Neutral Ivan: We don't know if this actually was a real star or not. It probably wasn't given how unclear the scene was. But regardless, the amount of time it took to escape the atmosphere and get to the stars was around four seconds. Using this feat, we can figure out this light glyph moved at 17,636,000,000 miles per second! Or 58.83c.

Chaos Ivan: That's crazy fast! Like the time The Collector stopped the draining spell Belos performed by moving the moon with one finger (9:46-9:49)! How the Collector reached the Moon from that perspective is beyond my knowledge. However, I do know the statistics. This came out to be over 12% the speed of light! And around 12,000 Yottatons of TNT! And he can tank these types of hits too!

Neutral Ivan: That's still not even his most impressive feat. While telling his backstory to Luz, Eda, and King, The Collector moved entire constellations around (14:27-14:59)!

Chaos Ivan: You think that's impressive? The Collector once made an entire bedroom for himself and King!

Neutral Ivan: ...

Chaos Ivan: Huh? Why aren't you saying anything?

Neutral Ivan: Look, I know you're messy and all but is making a bedroom really that impressive?

Chaos Ivan: Did I mention how the bedroom had entire star systems inside of it?

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The Collector's bedroom.

Neutral Ivan: Now that's impressive!

Note: While it's unclear if the room was made by The Collector or not, we decided to assume it was thanks to the childlike space and how it seemingly hadn't existed beforehand. There is also the feat to consider how the Titan's blood can possibly tear holes in space-time, but that feat is iffy. But we will count it to make the debate closer. It is dubious though as to whether the Collector scales to this, but since his siblings did beat the other Titans, it's safe to say he does.

Chaos Ivan: With all that said, the Collector has some big weaknesses. While he may be knowledgeable about magic, he is still a child in his species. His mind is like a five-year-old's. He barely knows anything related to math and such. The Collector will not think of any plans and just fight. That is if he even fights at all.

Neutral Ivan: After talking with Luz for a bit, he sorta became a pacifist, not wanting even Belos to get hurt. Of course, he can still fight, but this just means he likely won't go for any kills immediately. And he's gullible.

Chaos Ivan: He's been tricked on numerous occasions, leading to sticky situations.

Neutral Ivan: Despite these problems, he had no trouble dealing with every witch on the boiling isles! Except one...

Chaos Ivan: Yeah, Belos came back and took control of the Titan. Since The Collector was weak to Titan Magic, he couldn't beat the beast. Thankfully, with some help from Luz, Eda, Raine, and King, he was able to stop Belos and save the Isles! He eventually went back to his siblings and said goodbye to King. Not much is known about what he's doing now. If he's even alive.

Neutral Ivan: Just like Positive! I wonder if he's fine at Negative Ivan's house...

Chaos Ivan: Ah, he's fine! Let's just focus on The Collector.

Neutral Ivan: Okay... Why do I feel like this will come back later?

Chaos Ivan: We forgot to mention some weaknesses for The Collector. He's weak to Titan magic! Enough of it will kill him! And he can get sad to the point where he won't fight. And he's too silly at times. And he gets bored easily. Honestly, The Collector has a lot more weaknesses than I expected.

Neutral Ivan: Still, The Collector is a beast to be reckoned with. For all who don't know him, beware of his threat. No child is as deadly as him. And if you ever cross his path, The Collector will teach you how to play his game.

The Collector: As promised? I remember someone throwing me off a bridge. I'm not angry though. Say, you want to play tag? I'M IT.

Collector (almost) kills Belos scene

Four has a new challenge for DEATH BATTLE![]

Now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYBVZzJmVrc

Four title card

Four has a new challenge for Death Battle!

Note: As of writing this, only TPOT 13 has come out. So if Four is missing any important story beats, it's because this was written before all that.

Chaos Ivan: Welcome to Earth! Home to objects of all kinds! Objects that talk-wait, something's off.

Neutral Ivan: This is the world of objects! It's an object show! In this world, the objects all have personalities and constantly fight to win a prize: Dream Island!

Chaos Ivan: Dream Island huh? That sounds like an amazing prize! What kind of island is it?

Neutral Ivan: It's just a normal island. Sure it has some lava, traps, grass, amusement park rides, golden doors, items and attractions from your dreams, and other stuff, but it's still a normal island.

Chaos Ivan: Aw phooey. I had some neat plans... Oh well! Anyways, these objects just competed for this prize for an entire season! Then they did it again. And now they were just playing and chatting!

Neutral Ivan: But after Flower made the mistake of asking Black Hole to open a jar, who sucked up everyone, Four was summoned!

Background:[]

- Species: Algebralian.

- Age: ??? (Some believe it's 62! And some believe it's four!)

- Has no canonical gender, so Four's assumed to be genderless or a male.

- Has 16 nicknames including Murderer, Buddy, My Old Chum, and Number Boy.

- Is usually accompanied by X.

- Is the host of BFB, BFDI Mini, BFDI Mini Again, e.t.c

- Hates Two with a dying passion (At least they used to).

Chaos Ivan: Four? Why's he named Four? Chaos Ivan: Four? Who would name someone Four? Chaos Ivan: Four? Who would name someone Four?

Chaos Ivan: Four? Who would name someone Four?

Neutral Ivan: Take a look.

(Neutral shows Chaos a picture of Four, seen below.)

Four (4)

It's Four, from BFB!

Neutral Ivan: See!

Chaos Ivan: Wow! I was not expecting that!

Neutral Ivan: Four is an unusual creature, to say the least.

Chaos Ivan: No kidding! Once Four showed up, he shrunk down Black Hole, and killed some objects. How nice!

Neutral Ivan: Four convinced all the other objects to compete for a prize, who could win BFDI!

Chaos Ivan: Huh? Isn't that the name of the show?

Neutral Ivan: The prize is Dream Island again. Just with a more creative name.

Chaos Ivan: Ah. What rubbish.

Note: Not every event in BFB will be recapped. Only the ones that are important to Four's character. And we will zoom by TPOT and not go over the Mini shows and the non-canon episodes, since they don't bring much to the table in terms of Four's backstory or growth.

Neutral Ivan: Four proved to be quite the host. They made all the challenges with his buddy, X. At the end of each episode, they eliminated one of the objects that the viewers decided had to go.

Chaos Ivan: Objects were getting eliminated with every passing episode and getting absorbed into Four.

Neutral Ivan: After getting absorbed into Donut for a bit, Donut gained the powers of Four!

Chaos Ivan: Why are you talking about Donut right now? That's later in the script!

Neutral Ivan: Oh! I forgot! I'm sorry...

(Chaos I whacks Neutral I on the head with a huge sword.)

Neutral Ivan: Ow! I said I was sorry!

Chaos Ivan: Sorry doesn't cut it! Just don't mess up!

Neutral Ivan: Okay... *grumble grumble*

Chaos Ivan: *Sigh* Where was I-Oh yeah! A bit into the future, another Algebralian came into frame! This was Two!

Neutral Ivan: Two's existence confirmed that Four and X weren't the only top dogs in the verse!

Chaos Ivan: Two took over half of the contestants from Four (including X, but they got them back) and sent Four to somewhere distant! What a meanie!

Neutral Ivan: However, instead of feeling angry, they simply just made a new show in this new distant land! Now, this wasn't Battle for B.F.D.I. No no no! This was Battle for B.F.B!

Chaos Ivan: ...What?

Neutral Ivan: Don't worry. They added B.F.D.I back as a prize.

Chaos Ivan: I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WAS JUST DREAM ISLAND!!!

Neutral Ivan: Listen, I don't want to spoil what the prize is yet! It's not Dream Island, it's-

Chaos Ivan: Wait what?

Neutral Ivan: OH NO! I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT!

Chaos Ivan: So you were lying to me?!?!?

(Both Chaos and Neutral look at each other in silence, with Chaos slowly letting more steam out of his ears.)

*SNAP!*

Positive Ivan: Wake up you two! We need to get to the fight!

Chaos Ivan: Positive I?!? When did you get here?!? And how?!?

Positive Ivan: I escaped from Negative Ivan's house and ran all the way here! The door was locked though so I had to get creative!

Neutral Ivan: THE PIPES ARE BROKEN!!!

*CRASH!*

(Water comes spewing out of the walls as Neutral Ivan freaks out.)

Chaos Ivan: SERIOUSLY POSITIVE?!? Ughhh... Looks like I'll have to clean this mess.

(Chaos Ivan waves his hand towards every wall and the water stops. The pipes have been fixed.)

Neutral Ivan: Phew! Positive, go back to Negative's home!

Positive Ivan: Hmph! Fine! But I'll be back for the fight!

(Positive Ivan proceeds to walk straight through a wall, breaking it down. He nonchalantly shrugs and continues to walk away.)

Chaos Ivan: I swear to God, I will kill that b-

Neutral Ivan: No cursing! Let's just move on to abilities!

Abilities:[]

- Reality warping

- Fourth wall awareness

- Matter manipulation

- Zappies

- Screechy

- Size manipulation

- Teleportation

- Astral projection

- Gravity manipulation

Chaos Ivan: Four can do so many things, so much that it would take us days to list them all individually!

Neutral Ivan: We'll start basic. Four has Ultipotence, the sole power of Omnipotence! With this, they can manipulate space, time, gravity, matter, energy, e.t.c!

Chaos Ivan: Four can bring dead things to life, create objects, inanimate or living (like cake!), and control the shape of clouds!

Neutral Ivan: Four can also change their appearance! Whether it be this.

Spider Four

Spider Four?!?

Chaos Ivan: This.

Four the Tree Stick

A stick figure?


Neutral Ivan: An Among Us crewmate/imposter (it's not a transformation. It's only a costume. I just thought it was neat)!

Sussy Four

Is Four the imposter?

Chaos Ivan: And even the entire floor (this one, they possessed, but it's implied they could also transform into it)!

FourFloor

I love four-shadowing!


Neutral Ivan: You think of anything and they could probably become something similar!

Chaos Ivan: Four is immune to fire (only externally and even then they've been burned before), has insane speed and strength, can use toon force, can grow/shrink himself and others, and can use telekinesis to lift up others.

Neutral Ivan: Four can teleport, regenerate from horrid conditions, erase or write anything into existence, warp reality to anything they desire, fly, switch people's minds, and my favorite BREAK EVERYTHING THAT MAKES SENSE! INCLUDING PERSPECTIVE!

Chaos Ivan: You may be asking, "What does break perspective even mean?" Well, my loyal reader, I'll give you an example. In episode 18, Four grabbed Blocky in the background from the foreground (5:08-5:15) Meaning they can break the 2-D perspective! This makes absolutely zero sense. More so than anything else he has done! And Four has done this multiple times!

Neutral Ivan: Another time, X lost all of their baskets. They sent the other objects to go get them. One team of objects accidentally threw a basket too hard at X and they got sent flying off a tall platform. BUT SOMEHOW, AGAINST ALL LOGIC, X GOT BACK ON THE PLATFORM WHILE FALLING (26:38-26:46)! The platform never moved. X didn't teleport. NOTHING HAPPENED. HOW?!?!?

Note: While this ability was performed by X, X has noted before how all of their powers are similar to Four's. Plus, Four has shown the ability to use almost every single one of X's moves. And the ones they haven't, they've had a similar variation to. Adding on the fact that Four upscales to X in almost every way in terms of power, it's safe to say Four could probably use all of X's abilities. But we cannot assume the same for Two's powers. While yes, Four has proven to be stronger on a few occasions, their powers have never been stated to be connected in any way besides being the same species.

Chaos Ivan: And we still haven't reached the surface on what Four can do! Four can manipulate others thoughts, possess others, read others mind and memories, can hear things from miles and miles away, make music with their hands, force others to move (Four can move too! By move, I mean dance! But the objects didn't seem to like their dancing, which hurt Four's feelings), resist g-force, resist freezing temperatures, negate other's durability, manipulate text, seal things in big jawbreakers, use extrasensory perception, give others their power, build huge things in seconds, resist pain, turn their fingers into claws, take off their eye and other body parts, fuse with others, hack into electronics, nullify other's powers, non-physically interact with others, make the area darker, create after-images, control others' temperature resistance, delete or respawn others, clone themself, ignite anything, cook amazing meals surprisingly, and understand the weirdest of languages.

Neutral Ivan: Believe it or not. but Four is actually really smart. They may not understand some stuff and have the mind of a newborn in some cases, but Four is capable of understanding the most complex of languages. Whether it be Insulavoric (Dora's language), Roboty's Morse Code, Teardrop's sign language, musical notes, or Woody's speech, you best believe they've got it mastered! And Insulavoric is supposed to be one of the hardest languages to learn!

Chaos Ivan: Four can suck others into them or straight up eat them, sending them to what appears to be another plane of existence! Otherwise known as the EXIT and The Fourest. This is a pocket dimension inside of Four, where all the loser objects reside.

Neutral Ivan: Fun fact! EXIT stands out for External XAlgebra IClass TWithFour!

Chaos Ivan: What.

Neutral Ivan: The EXIT is where Four teaches the objects math. It's an average sized school classroom with windows that lead to nowhere. And if you go past the locked door in the class, you can find many things! Like the Fourest! A strange place with trees that look like Four! Or the Fourtress! An even stranger place with Fourses, jail cells, and shrinking walls!

Chaos Ivan: Four can manipulate the Earth itself! Send you to the BRB (the Big Rotating Building)! Control the budget of the show! Warp anything out of existence! Create air from nothing! Stretch his body to no end! And mutilate objects into a 2-D mess.

Pin TeamIcon Transparent

This is Pin! An object who competed in BFB!

Pin Mutilated

And this is Pin after she got mutilated! Oh god...


Chaos Ivan: Four can shoot bolts from their hands that are called Zappies. Zappies make anybody zapped by them lose health and become electrocuted! While Four does have to charge these to shoot long duration blasts, Four has shot tinier blasts instantly! And some zappies can even change matter! Like when Four used their zappies on a laptop, turning it into something very important that I probably should have already known! Wait a minute-

Neutral Ivan: And perhaps Four's most prominent ability. Screehy!

Chaos Ivan: With this, Four can stun or erase any contestant who he targets this to. Since it's a screech, it can target multiple people at a time. It can also come in the form of hearts when Four shows love or excitement towards something. Four can screech with you in their mouth to cause extra damage and can amplify their volume to even reach space!

Neutral Ivan: Speaking of space, we need to discuss the insane cosmic stuff Four has done.

Feats:[]

- Has messed with the planet Earth sooo many times

- Held their hand around Black Hole and shrunk him

- Can fly from Earth to the Sun in some seconds

- Has become the sun

- Has a pocket dimension inside of themself

- Can mess with the budget of the show

- Upscales to every object or creature in the show and possibly even other Algebralians

Chaos Ivan: Four is a beast who is not one to be taken lightly.

Neutral Ivan: Four upscales the cast who, in this episode, rotated the Earth by running (7:56-8:03)! And that's only the surface of how many times they've messed with the planet! Honestly, they've messed up the Moon and planet so many times, it would take forever to list them all! So we'll just list the most interesting/prominent ones!

Chaos Ivan: With the factor of Four, Donut could move the entire Earth through a camera with only his legs in some seconds (2:31-2:50)! That's about 1.28 Ronnatons of TNT! Enough to obliterate a large planet! And Donut could clearly only do that with Four's power! Ohh! So that's when Donut would appear in the script!

Neutral Ivan: Four is comparable to Two, who could transform the Sun into a spike ball and bash it into Four's head repeatedly (11:09-11:42)! And Four changed it back to The Sun with a single motion! Four wasn't even trying! And Two and Four both broke perspective again!

Chaos Ivan: In the BFB finale, Four took control of the B.R.B, and flew to the Sun in some seconds! And when they landed on the Sun, Four took control of the Sun and made the entire Solar System blue! Potentially, the entire universe!

Neutral Ivan: Four has shown to be superior to the bugs, who could eat away at Giant Pink Evil Leafy. Giant Pink Evil Leafy had an entire pocket dimension filled with a starry sky inside of her!

Chaos Ivan: And you know that episode we mentioned before where the Earth was moved by some objects running? Well, in that episode alone, the objects could survive standing on the Sun (4:43-13:40), made the Sun grow over twice its size (7:11-7:16), MOVE THE SUN MILES AWAY BY JUMPING IN SECONDS (8:42-9:01), make the Sun 800 degrees hotter and still be able to stand on it (11:49-11:52), TRANSFORM THE SUN INTO AN ICE CUBE BY INSULTING IT (12:15-12:21), TRANSFORM IT BACK INTO THE SUN (12:47-12:53), and put a huge block around the Earth (13:19-13:23)! WOW! That's a lot done in one episode!

Neutral Ivan: There have been many examples of contestants moving stars in the show like here (0:51-0:58).

Chaos Ivan: And here, where Four kicks three contestants to the sun in seconds (10:06-10:50)!

Neutral Ivan: But if you thought that was impressive, in the beginning of BFB, we noted how Four shrunk down Black Hole to the size of the other objects. That's a solar system level feat!

Chaos Ivan: You know what else is a solar system level feat? THEM JUST CASUALLY MOVING THEIR EYES WHILE FUSED WITH THE SUN!

Neutral Ivan: And now for some crazier stuff! FOUR IS A UNIVERSAL THREAT! Let's start basic. Four has multiple pocket realities inside of him. Each of them holding stars, potentially even entire universes! And Four can also create dreams, which have been shown before to continua an entire universe!

Chaos Ivan: With budget control, Four can warp the universe to their image and control how good the show looks!

Note: While only Announcer Speaker Box has been shown to use this, it's implied this is an ability all hosts of the BFDI series can use.

Neutral Ivan: That's not all! Remember Black Hole? Well, he himself noted how he can warp space-time so hard, time will literally slow down and there will be no tomorrow (8:30-8:37)! And Four is way stronger than him! Plus, in this episode, Black Hole could have threatened to destroy everything (4:42-23:46)! AT MFTL+ speeds no less!

Note: While this was only Black Hole's dream, the dreams showed that the entire universe had been destroyed! And dreams in BFDI have been shown on numerous occasions before to be pocket universes!

Chaos Ivan: And if you're somehow still not convinced yet, in this episode, everyone dies from the heat death of the universe! Yet Announcer survives! And Four has shown to be the superior host (in terms of strength)!

Note: It's worth noting that this episode was non-canon. For this battle, I decided to include non-canon stuff to make the debate more interesting. Plus, this feat was only used to support my universal argument for Four. And while Four did indeed not be able to break the claw machine and they did indeed die, this was more likely used for comedic effect rather than downplaying Four. Even if we get rid of this non-canon feat, there are even greater arguments for Four. Like how an infinity object exists which could prove how the BFDI universe could contain infinity, making the verse Uni+. And there also exists a live-action space called "Real Life" in the BFDI verse which transcends the infinite sized verse, a potential LCM feat! And Four was shown to contain this space inside for him! Though this was too iffy to include for the debate, it was worth noting. Plus, "Real Life" may not even transcend the verse. It could just be another place in the BFDI universe. And judging by the scene, it's also probably not contained within Four. Another interesting fact worth bringing up is the potential Hyperversal feat, with Pi being defeated. While this feat could work, we decided to not use it, seeing as using the logic of the feat, Four would have been downplayed to below human level.

Chaos Ivan: And remember Donut? Well, they were capable of reacting to this laser that came from 2763 light years away (29:09-29:46)! This comes out to be around 621445987143.54577637-134950262824823984 times faster than light! A massively faster than light feat! And Four can keep up with Donut fairly easily! And far outpass his speed while flying! And this laser also reached the Real World, which if we use our iffy claims, could be an immeasurable speed feat, though this is too unlikely to be true.

Neutral Ivan: You're probably wondering how anyone this strong could be hurt. Well Four does have some weaknesses.

Chaos Ivan: First things first. Four's not that smart. Kinda.

Neutral Ivan: We mentioned before how Four was able to learn four insanely hard languages, making them a genius! Well, they haven't shown to have always been that smart.

Chaos Ivan: They've been tricked, confused, and even outsmarted by many of the contestants. Four also is a bit slow to understand most things and will resort to complaining or freaking out when things don't go their way. Which could be a very good thing or a very very bad thing.

Neutral Ivan: Four's zappies cannot hurt Yoyle metal, which is metal made from Yoyleberries!

Chaos Ivan: Four can be divided or multiplied by other numbers, completely changing them to another number or even potentially killing them!

Neutral Ivan: While Four is strong enough to beat zombies, a zombie bite will infect him, causing him to turn less intelligent and more crazy and blood lusted. Four has also been severely hurt before, physically and mentally.

Chaos Ivan: Four's feelings have been hurt many times. Sometimes causing them to cry. Sometimes causing them to get angry with no thoughts on their actions or what they will cause. And Sometimes making him run away/hide.

Neutral Ivan: As for physically, Four has been tired and even hurt before. Once, Firey Jr. struck Four's with fire inside of his body. Despite Four being immune to fire externally, they got severe damage. Only a juice box could heal them and they were in so much pain, they couldn't drink it! And Four has even been hurt by fire externally too! Although Four was inside of their own body when they got hurt externally by fire.

Chaos Ivan: Four got tired after trying to absorb Spongey, causing him and Loser to escape, has been trapped in multiple places, stuck in a goo-like form, and has even died!

Neutral Ivan: These deaths have been caused by Black Hole, the heat death of the universe, being erased while stuck on a chalkboard, Donut (kinda), e.t.c. Even things Four can normally survive, Four has sometimes died or got injured to!

Chaos Ivan: And one final weakness. Their insecurity.

Neutral Ivan: Four was a huge fan of BFDI when they were younger. They watched every episode and became so obsessed, they wanted to be in the show itself!

Chaos Ivan: But they didn't know how to get in, so they just took control of the show while Announcer was gone!

Neutral Ivan: When Announcer came back to reclaim his show from Four, they feared that the other contestants didn't want them to lead the show. So they sunk into a desert and didn't return for two episodes straight!

Chaos Ivan: Two episodes doesn't sound that long-

Neutral Ivan: Each episode is about a month or two months from each other. And the time moves the same in the BFDI world as here.

Chaos Ivan: Oh... Four must have been lonely...

Neutral Ivan: They sure were. In fact, they were so lonely, they had to put themselves in a fake pocket dimension controlled by his thoughts where all the previously eliminated contestants in the E.X.I.T loved them. and did seasons with them. But even the fake versions of the contestants Four controlled to like whatever they did hated them!

Chaos Ivan: By this time, the actual season had ended. Flower had won BFB. Four, unbeknownst to this, kept hiding in the desert. That was until the contestants of BFB tried to find them.

Neutral Ivan: Four just wanted to be left alone at this point. They turned into a crack in the ground and a cactus, to warn everyone not to find them. Yet, everyone still tried. So Four had to constantly possess/shapeshift into a whole bunch of different objects to escape.

Chaos Ivan: After becoming the B.R.B, in a last ditch effort to stay alone forever, Four flew to the Sun as the B.R.B and possessed the Sun! I noted before how this turned everything blue, but did you know Two also refused to intervene? That's right! The supposed "stronger" being didn't want to help stop this madness! What a pushover!

Neutral Ivan: Stop insulting Two!

*BAM!*

(Chaos I whacks Neutral I on the head again. This time with a hammer.)

Neutral Ivan: OWWWWWWWWW! STOP DOING THAT!!!

Chaos Ivan: Know your place, Neutral!

(Chaos Ivan begins to glow brightly.)

Neutral Ivan: Fine... *grumble grumble,*

Chaos Ivan: Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, Four!

Neutral Ivan: Gelatin got so fed up with Four's actions, he decided to go against Four and speak out against their ways. How the contestants loved Four but not how they killed and tortured them. How they wanted Four to come back, but not as a foe, but as a friend. You see kids, talking back against a God of some sorts usually doesn't end the best, especially if the god kills someone almost every five seconds. But Four had changed over the show. They started out as a psychopathic maniac who no one liked. But as time went on, Four slowly became a better and kinder person. And that led to accepting Gelatin's speech.

Chaos Ivan: With help from X, Four calmed down and returned back to normal. They apologized to everyone and tried changing for the better.

Neutral Ivan: And the BFDI and BFB were revealed! Turns out, they were both video collections of the entire show! From the start to the very end! And the BFDI in particular was the last recording of BFDI and BFDIA ever!

*Chk-chk*

Neutral Ivan: What was that-

(The camera slowly moves to the left to see Chaos Ivan holding a gun behind Neutral's head! Sweat trickles down Neutral's face.)

Neutral Ivan: Chaos, I can explain.

Chaos Ivan: YOU LIED TO ME FOR A VIDEO COLLECTION?!?

Neutral Ivan: To be fair, the show did that to the viewers too. They tricked you into thinking it was Dream Island or something related to BFDI, when it turns out the prize was this!

Chaos Ivan: Wow! Twist of the century! Who could have guessed?

(Chaos Ivan starts to pull the trigger.)

Chaos Ivan: Any last words?

Neutral Ivan: Wait. I could just use one of my many powers to-

*BANG!*

(Neutral Ivan falls to the floor, seemingly dead.)

Neutral Ivan: AUGH! You've killed me! Bleh.

Chaos Ivan: Good. Now I can play Kirby and the Forgotten Land in peace!

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Chaos Ivan: I beat the game!

Neutral Ivan: And I revived myself! Hey! You played Kirby without me!

Chaos Ivan: You snooze, you lose! Never lie to me again!

Neutral Ivan: Fine! *grumble grumble*

Chaos Ivan: Now back to Four! After BFB ended, Four decided to... join TPOT as a chef?!? I thought they hated Two!

Neutral Ivan: While it's true that Four did in fact hate Two, some time and distance helped Four learn that sometimes, forgiveness is the right option. Sometimes.

Chaos Ivan: Four still kills and zaps objects, but now, they're more controlled! Now, they are someone the objects admire.

Neutral Ivan: And sometimes, Four meets up with the other Algebralians and has some fun. How nice...

Chaos Ivan: BORING! Don't forget! Four is still a threat to all who oppose (annoy) him! If anyone threatens X or their friends, they will teach them suffering! They will teach them pain! And they will teach them what the true greatest number is!

Neutral Ivan: Four will always be on top! Fourever!

Four: The world's gonna know my name! I'll be the favorite! I'LL BE THE FAVORITE.

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Intermission[]

Four vs The Collector intermission


Neutral Ivan: Alright, this fight's gonna get wild!

Chaos Ivan: Hold on to your straps, cause it's time for a Death Battle!

Pre-Fight[]

Now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6FABcWVIw8

The scene opens up to a yellow field filled with green trees. Objects of all kinds were seen in the field… Moving?!? This was the world of B.F.D.I, a world where the objects could talk and move like people. Currently, two objects, a marker named Marker and a stapler named Stapy were talking with each other.

“Hey Stapy! Wanna play ‘toss the dirt’ with me?” Marker asked.

“Sure, Marker!” Stapy replied.

The two grabbed some dirt and began tossing it back and forth, laughing as they did. Nearby, an angry fan sighed.

“I hate dirt!” Fanny yelled angrily.

Fanny immediately gets shoved aside by two figures running past him. She trips and falls to the floor.

“I HATE FALLING!” Fanny yelled even more angrily.

The two figures were a pen and eraser. The pen was chasing the eraser around the huge field.

“I’m gonna catch you!” Pen shouted.

“No you won’t- Woah!” Eraser cried out.

Eraser halted, skidding to a stop as Pen ran into Eraser headfirst, causing them both to fall over. They both got up, holding their heads.

“Owie! Why did you stop running?” Pen asked.

“Pen! Look!” Eraser screamed.

Eraser grabs Pen’s face and turns it towards the ground. Standing before Eraser was a piece of paper in the shape of a… gasp! A pentagon!

“AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Both Eraser and Pen shrieked.

The duo ran away in the other direction. Once they were out of sight, the piece of paper got up! Two arms and legs popped out of the paper. It laughed and folded itself into an origami-like fold.

“Got ‘em! Nice idea, Yellow Face!” Foldy laughed.

Foldy turned around towards a crudely drawn face with no limbs or body. The face was colored almost entirely yellow. Foldy gently smacked the face and the face laughed.

“Ha! That went perfectly, Foldy! Thank you for testing my product!” Yellow Face said.

Yellow Face turned towards the camera with a dastardly smile on his face. Suddenly, the background became more dreamy and Foldy became a badly drawn version of herself. It was time for Yellow Face’s ad!

“Viewers! Have you ever wanted to fold yourself and turn into a pentagon to scare unsuspecting foes? Well then buy my new product!” Yellow Face hollered.

A book popped up behind Yellow Face and hit Foldy in the head, sending her out of the ad. The book read: Yellow Face’s Marvelous Origami Tips!

“Buy my new book on how to do so! Priced at only $25.24!”

The ad ended and everything turned back to normal. Yellow Face hopped away as the book poofed out of reality. A book happened to be watching this and shivered.

“Ugh… I sure hope I never poof out of existence like that…” Book muttered.

From the sky, two figures were watching all of this carnage play out. One was a yellow creature shaped like the letter x. The other was a creature of the same race, this time shaped like the number 4.

“…uh Four?” X asked quietly.

“Doobee dooba dooba! Doobee dooba dooba!” Four hummed.

“Four?”

“Hm hm hm hmmmm!”

“Four!”

“WHAT IS IT?!?” Four roared.

Four angrily teleported right next to X, their face red with frustration. Scared, X cowered into their hands.

“I think the objects are getting bored… BFB and TPOT ended a while ago and no one is starting a new competition! Not even the box guy! It’s like they hate fun!” X said, still cowering in their hands.

“I hate fun!” Fanny shouted from below.

“Shush!” Four said as they abused the perspective. They put their hand over Fanny’s mouth from the sky and moved their hand downwards. Four had removed Fanny’s mouth from existence! Fanny angrily huffed and stormed away.

“I think we should make another season soon…” X muttered.

“Two just finished their season and used all my previous contestants. Now they don’t want to play with me. Instead, they just want to relax. The BFB objects are all taking a break too… You’re right. This is not fine. It’s been three days since TPOT ended and I’m getting impatient. We have to make another season!” Four said, slamming one of their hands on top of the other like a hammer striking their desk to silence the court.

“But to do that, we’ll need new contestants! You said so yourself Four!“

“Hmmmm… Ah ha! Let’s find some new objects! How about an all David season?”

“I like it, but I’m not sure the Davids in Davidland would be happy being taken away from their home.”

“You silly goose! We don’t need them to be happy!”

“You’re right! Let’s go kidnap some Davids! Hooray!”

After many attempts, X and Four failed to kidnap the Davids. They retreated home and-

“HEY! We didn’t even try to kidnap them yet!”

Sigh. I’m sorry. Carry on with your day!

“Hmph! You ruined my mood! Now I don’t want to get those flat, stupid, and smelly creatures!”

“AW, SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?” The Davids all hollered. Even though they were miles away, the screams still sounded like a bullet train to Four and X!

“Ah! Four, the Davids heard us! All the way from Davidland!”

“Oh come on! X, I’m tired of these guys! Let’s find new people!”

Four pulled out their computer and started rapidly typing on it.

“Innocent… Characters… That could be… Put into a BFDI season… Ah ha!” Four shouts with joy.

“Who did you find?”

“A whole bunch of characters popped up! There’s a triangle with a top hat, a dog from France, and… Oooooohhh!”

Four pointed at a character on the computer screen. X leaned in and saw a furry demonic figure standing on two legs. It had a skull covering its head. Its eyes were yellow and purple. The creature’s name was King.

“King? He looks cute!” X said.

“Yeah! Perfect for BFDI!”

“What about the rest of the season cast?”

“…”

Four suddenly screeched right next to X, killing them. Four then held out their hand and out popped X, fully healed and revived.

“I’m sorry Four…”

“Good. I’ll go find King now!”

Four teleported out of view as X waved them goodbye. Meanwhile, at this very moment, King was playing with his dolls and his human friend, Luz. They were both in the mystical island known as the Boiling Isles and were playing in the Owl House. King pointed to the dolls and shouted.

“I am your new ruler! Fear me!” King roared.

Luz ducked behind the dolls and moved their limbs into a salute position. She then changed her voice to a lighter and more innocent tone.

“Aye aye, captain!” Luz squeaked.

“Mwa ha ha! I am now the strongest demon on the Boiling Isles!”

The door of the Owl House burst open as the doorpost owl, Hooty charged in and tackled King by accident, sending him to the floor.

“Ow! Hooty! What was that for?”

“Special delivery! From the Collector!” Hooty shrieked.

“What?!? It’s been two years since we’ve last seen him!” Luz said, clearly shocked by the sudden visit.

“That’s why I said it was special!”

“Oh gods… I hope the Collector still remembers me! I’ve grown a lot taller! Where’s Eda? Gus? Willow? Hunter?” King mumbled.

“Amity?” Luz asked.

“They said they had to go somewhere important! Something about giraffe hunting!“ Hooty said.

“There are still giraffes here?!?” Luz asked, even more shocked than before.

“No time to answer! The Collector is here! Hoot hoot!”

A little boy with gray hair walks into the Owl House. He had yellow eyes, like King, but this time with bright orange pupils with a black dot in the middle of each of them. He wore a smile and had three star-shaped moles under his left eye. Some parts of his body were colored purple. He wore a long black, white, and purple coat with tiny Sun and Moon shapes on its arms. The kid turned towards King and his eyes lit up with excitement.

“Luz! King! It’s been a while!” The Collector screamed, pulling King into a hug.

“Collector! Buddy, how’s it been?” King asked.

“Awesome! Ever since I made that light show two years ago for everyone, I had to go do some more soul searching and talk with my siblings. All’s well!”

“Great! The only ones here currently are I and Luz.”

“Don’t forget about me!” Hooty called.

“Don’t worry, Hooty. King was just playing with ya! He just made a tiny joke!” Luz said.

“A joke! I should have picked up on that! I can’t even understand a  You all probably hate me now! BWAHHHH-” Hooty bawled. A waterfall of tears started flowing from his eyes.

“Calm down, Hooty! We still love you!” King yelled.

“BWAHHHH- Ha! Got ya! I already know you guys love me! I was just pretending to cry to trick you!”

“Ha ha… Very funny…”

The Collector started giggling. He suddenly fell to the floor and started laughing uncontrollably. He held his stomach and tears fell from his eyes.

“That was funny!” The Collector smirked.

“Yeah!” Hooty laughed.

King rolled his eyes as the two began to laugh even harder. Luz smiles slightly and stands up.

“I’m going to find Amity! Hope you guys have fun!”

“Bye Luz!” The Collector and Hooty shouted.

“Bye Luz…” King said with little enthusiasm. “Maybe I could convince the Collector to come and hunt giraffes with Luz and the rest of the gang… Or maybe find a way to make Hooty shut his beak…” King thought.

King shaked his head and turned towards the hallway of the Owl House.

“I’m going to the bathroom!”

“Ok! Come out quickly!” The Collector said. “After you’re done, I wanna play ‘dolls’ together!”

“Sure thing!”

King strided to the bathroom and locked the door. He goes to wash his hands. As he washed his hands, he noticed the color of the water. It was awfully blue… Almost as blue as the bathroom walls…

“Wait a minute… The bathroom walls were never blue! What’s going on?!?” King asked in fear.

The blue color of the walls spreaded to everything in the bathroom except for King. Soon, all King could see was the color blue. The walls started to rumble wildly. Yet nothing cracked or broke from the pressure. Perhaps King was just seeing things… Then he heard a voice from all around him..

“You’re coming with me!” The voice howled.

“Wah?!? Who said that?!?”

“Ha ha ha!”

The blue room changed into a room filled with stars that looked like tiny dots. Soon, the stars became blurred streaks of white. King watched in awe and horror as tens, if not hundreds of light years passed before his eyes. He took a step back and bumped his head against a toilet that had blended into the background. He closed his eyes and blacked out.

King slowly wakes up to see himself lying down in… a classroom?

“Where am I? Is this Hexside School?”

King got up and looked around. While he observed his surroundings, the screen zoomed out to reveal King was in Four’s pocket dimension, the E.X.I.T! Four laughed as they teleported back to their home cosmology.

“X, I got King!” Four cheered.

X applauds Four’s insanely, awesome, over the top, wild, incredible, genius, extraordinary, bold, sublime, and vacuous accomplishment. I hope Four doesn’t know what vacuous means-

“Stop insulting me!”

Drat! They caught on! Fine… I’ll stop…

“You got your first contestant! That’s great! Now what?” X questioned.

“I’m gonna show him off to the other objects!”

“Okay!”

Four flies to the ground and calls all the nearby objects to meet and greet the new contestant.

“Everyone!” Four called out.

An object who appeared to be everything in the entire human conscious mind combined walked into frame.

“Yeah?” Everyoney asked.

“Not you! Every object who competed in a BFDI season!”

“Aw man…”

The indescribable object slowly walked away, his face facing the ground. Immediately after he left, every object who competed in BFDI came running to Four. A taco spoke up first.

“What is it Four? Is it finally time for the new season?”

“I thought you guys didn’t want to be a part of it.”

A very tiny speck of fire spoke out.

“We finished our break! We’re now ready to start!” Firey Jr. said.

“You mean I didn’t even need to get this guy?!?” Four asked, their face slowly becoming more and more red.

“Huh?” A tree named Tree asked. “Who is this guy you brought?”

“Oh him? Wait one second!”

Four’s face returned to their normal shade of blue as they extended one of their arms to three kilometers and shoved the whole arm into their mouth! Meanwhile, The Collector had gotten bored.

“What’s taking so long?!? Does King really not want to play ‘dolls’ with me?!? I saw him playing with Luz!”

The Collector stomped his way to the bathroom and kicked down the door. He gasped in shock to see that King was not there! The room had returned to its original state, no speck of blue anywhere. The Collector tried searching for King, but he wasn’t anywhere! He had been Kingnapped!

“KING, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!” The Collector screamed. He quickly used his advance hearing to try to find the evildoer’s location, but the evildoer was nowhere to be found… It was as if the kidnapper had disappeared from this universe itself…

Inside the E.X.I.T, King was exploring the classroom.

“How do I get out of here…” King thought to himself. “Huh? What’s that?”

King saw a door in the back of the classroom. The door appeared to be barricaded by some easily removable wood. He cautiously approached it.

“I wonder… What’s beyond this door?”

As King was about to open the door… BAM! A huge blue hand busted into the room! The blue hand grabbed King and zoomed out of the classroom at subsonic speeds! King couldn’t fight back or run away as he was dragged out of the beast mouth. A bright light shined in his face. He was about to be pulled out of Four! King fearfully thought Four was gonna torture him once he was pulled out. In a last ditch effort, King puffed up his chest and roared.

“WEH!” King roared! The roar had produced shockwaves that traveled around the inside of Four. However, it did little to harm the Algebralian. King was sadly forced to be pulled out. King closed his eyes and prepared for the worst. However, minutes passed and nothing had happened. He slowly opened his eyes again to see animated objects of all kinds simply staring at him!

“YAH!” King shrieked.

“Everyone, welcome our new contestant, King! Demon from the Boiling Isles!” Four cheered. Confetti from somewhere unknown spewed onto King as the objects all celebrated King’s arrival. A yellow block went up to King and lifted his hand towards the demon.

“Hello there, King! Nice to meet you! I’m Loser!” Loser beamed with pride.

“OH MY GOD! LOSER IS SUCH A GREAT GUY!” The majority of the objects shouted.

King slowly backed away from Loser, upsetting his feelings.

“Where am I? Who are you all? What are you all? How do I get back home?!?”

“You’re pretty goofy, you know that?” Four said, with a smile on their face.

“You mean… I’m stuck here forever?!?” King asked, a sense of hopelessness crippling into his eyes. “No! I need to get back home!”

King pleaded to Four for permission to go home, but Four would not accept his demands.

“Grrrr. You are making me angry. You’re competing in the new BFDI season whether you like it or not! Especially after all the work I had to go through to get you!”

“Please! Let me go home! I want to see Eda, Luz, even Hooty!”

“Who even are these people?” X asked.

“I don’t know, but don’t tell him that.” Four whispered to X.

“I can hear you!” King cried out, making Four turn a bit red again. Four turned their waist 180 degrees to stare at King.

“You think you’re better than me?!?” Four said, slowly approaching King. Their look was becoming more and more menacing. King took a step back.

“Wait no! Please don’t eat me!” King said, ducking and cowering behind his hands. X went beside him and also cowered for no reason.

“What? I won’t eat you. That’s gross. I may put you in my mouth, but not eat you.” Four replied.

“You won’t? Oh, thank goodness!” King sighed as he wiped off some sweat from his forehead. He stood up and looked at the other objects. “But who are these people?”

“Those are the other contestants! Competing for the prize!”

“What prize?” King asked.

The other objects started to chime in, sharing their thoughts to each other.

“Yeah? What prize?” Cloudy asked.

“I hope it’s a TPOT! B.F.T, Battle for TPOT!” Bubble said.

“No! That is not the prize!” Four yelled, quieting all the objects down. “I haven’t decided on the prize yet, but I will soon! Now scram, and let me think!”

The other objects all happily walked away. King still remained however.

“I already miss them…” King thought. “But it looks like I’ll have to compete in this challenge under a psychopath to get back home… Wait, what’s that over in the distance?”

King saw a bright blue and pink, star shaped portal appear in the sky. Out of it, stepped the Collector! The portal closed behind him as he looked around this strange new land.

“I heard it from this universe… There!” The Collector shouted and he quickly flew towards King and wrapped him into a hug. “King! I thought I’d never see you again!”

“Collector?!? What are you doing here?!?”

“I came to save you! I saw the bathroom was unoccupied, so I tried searching the Boiling Isles for you! But you weren’t anywhere! So I had to make portals to other dimensions to try and find you! After I checked the first two universes, I was beginning to lose hope. Until I heard that scream of yours! I was able to pin-point the location of your scream and now I’m here!”

A pin suddenly ran up to the Collector.

“Did someone call my name?”

“Uh no?” The Collector replied.

“Sigh… Okay then…” Pin said, walking away before turning around and eyeing the Collector suspiciously. “Wait, who are you? Another new contestant?”

“I’m not the Contestant, I’m the Collector! And I’m here to take my friend back!”

Suddenly, Four and X teleported right next to the Collector, scaring him.

“AH!” The Collector screamed, turning invisible.

“I can still see you.” Four casually replied.

“Oh.” The Collector said, turning visible. “Who are you?”

“That’s the thing who kidnapped me!” King shouted.

“THEY WERE THE ONES WHO KIDNAPPED YOU?!? Did they do anything to you?!?” The Collector shouted, filled to the brim with rage.

“No… They just wouldn’t let me come home…” King muttered.

“Well that’s no good! Let me at them!” The Collector shouted. The Collector moved King to the side. Dark magic slowly spewed out of him. He glared at Four with such intensity, X motioned backwards..

“Four?” X said. “This Collector guy seems dangerous! Be careful!”

“Collector! The blue number has some crazy tricks! Expect the unexpected!” King yelled.

“Don't worry! They may be strong…” They both said.

Four prepared a huge zappie. The Collector waved his hands upwards and summoned two meteors from the sky, both of them rapidly approaching Four!

“But I’m stronger!”

Four vs The Collector sprite art

Fight!

Part 1: You don't like my cake?[]

Now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxWqzJ2GxhI

Four made the first move. They fired their charged zappie at the Collector. The Collector narrowly avoided the electricity bolt and waved his hands towards Four. Immediately, the two meteors sped up and crashed into Four. Four fell to the ground as they were crushed under even more incoming meteorites. Thinking he had already won, the Collector walked back towards King with a smile.

“That was easy! See King? I’m fine!”

“WE’RE NOT DONE YET!” Four said, emerging from the rubble. Four quickly shot even more zappies at the Collector. The Collector swiftly avoided each and every blast. The Collector laughed at Four’s measly attempts to hit him. Four was getting angrier by the second.

“STAY STILL AND GET ZAPPED!”

“Never!” The Collector laughed. But while he was laughing, a zappie hit him in the stomach, causing him to be paralyzed! Four grinned and rapidly spammed their zap attack, electrocuting the Collector repeatedly. The Collector screamed in pain as he was kept paralyzed by the blasts of lightning. A health bar appeared right above him. It was slowly losing health too! It was about to reach zero…

“Let… Me… Go!” The Collector yelled as he summoned a small, star-like projectile to attack Four. The star harmlessly bounced off Four, squeaking as it slowly fell to the floor.

“Ha! Was that supposed to do something?”

“Yeah…”

“Oh. Well, too bad for you!” Four laughed as they continued to electrocute the Collector.

The Collector continued to scream in pain. Four laughed and laughed-

“I’m getting bored. Fight back!” Four yelled impatiently at The Collector, still sending zappies at him.

“Alright, fine!” The Collector said as the star that had bounced off of Four rose into the air! Four-eyed the star suspiciously. Suddenly, the star rams into Four’s eye at speeds faster than light! Four screamed in pain, temporarily freeing the star child. The Collector quickly turned into a bouncy ball and bounced away. Seeing this, Four growled with anger.

“GET BACK HERE!”

Four suddenly sprouted eight legs! They looked like a spider of some sort… A really ugly spider…

“Hehehe. You look funny!” The Collector laughed.

“STOP TALKING!”

Using their four+four legs, Four chased after the Collector, who was rapidly bouncing away from the incoming blue beast. Four’s legs were almost a blur as they growled with anger.

“Take this!” Four shouted as they shot a blast of fire at the Collector! The fireblast hit the Collector, turning him back into his normal human form. The Collector’s clothes turned ablaze and the Collector rolled on the floor, screaming, trying to get the fire off of him.

“Get it off! It burns! It burns- Fooled you!”

The Collector quickly took off his clothes, revealing he had a spare set underneath! The Collector had been immune to fire! The Collector threw the clothes at Four. The clothes landed on Four’s face as the fire from the clothes quickly spread to Four!

“YOW! Wait, I’m immune to fire.” Four realized. They peeled the Collector’s clothes off of them and crushed it in their palm.

“Collector guy!” Four yelled.

“Yeah blue number?”

“I have a question for you! Do you like cake?”

“Cake? I love cake!” The Collector squealed with joy. His mouth watered at the thought of cake. "Specifically vanilla cake. The creamy vanilla frosting… the chunky chocolate bits… the tiny strawberry pieces… Ooooohhhh, it's so good!"

“You do? Here! Have some I made! I have plenty!”

A huge cake, the size of a coliseum, fell on the Collector! The Collector attempted to leap away but got crushed by the dessert.

“HA! What did you think of my cake?”

A hole appeared in the side of the cake. The Collector, who had crumbs all over his face, threw a paper plane at Four, which smacked the Algebralian in the head. Four unscrambled the paper airplane. They gasped in shock at what the Collector had sent their way.

“Only a D?!? How?!?”

“The cake was salty! How do you even make a salty cake?!?”

“Oh... I may have accidentally used salt instead of sugar…” Four admitted.

“ARE YOU TRYING TO POISON ME?!?”

“I guess? Wasn’t my intention but I’m trying to obliterate you so…”

“Grah! Go! Meteor shower!”

The Collector snaps his fingers and puts Four into a bathroom.

“Hey, this is where I kidnapped King!” Four noticed. Four then got pushed by invisible hands into the bathtub. The faucet turned on and Four got sprayed by hundreds of small meteorites!

“Gah!” Four yelled. They formed a force field around themselves and sighed in relief.

“Phew! Those rocks hurt!”

“They sure did! But not as much as this!”

The Collector teleported behind Four and smacked him to the floor! The Collector quickly fired his small star-like projectiles at Four. Four flew upwards to avoid the stars. Four swerved through the air, trying to escape the Collector’s onslaught of stars. Mid-flight, a star hit Four, causing them to get hurt. Four fell to the ground and bumped their head. When Four got up, their eyes were replaced by big x marks. The purple and yellow stars the Collector shot at Four circled their head like Four was in a cartoon. The Collector used this opportunity to trap Four within a huge box. When Four snapped out of their confusion, they found themselves in a dark cube.

“Huh? Where am I?” Four curiously said to themself. Four took one X out of their eye and changed its color to yellow. The x grew and grew until it was a bit smaller than Four. Eyes and limbs popped out of it. A small smile formed in the middle of it. Four then took the x out of their other eye and threw it at the wall of the cube like a shuriken. The x harmlessly bounced off, doing little damage. Four sighed and turned to the newly formed X.

“X!” Four shouted with joy. “You came!”

“I didn’t come here… You just summoned me…” X muttered. “Why did you summon me?”

“Simple! I’ve been caught in this weird box!”

“Four! I see a bit of light at the top of the box!” X said, pointing up to the ceiling. There, a tiny bit of light glimmered. It was so small that Four had to squint their eyes and increase their vision to properly see it.

“So? What does this light even do- Woah!”

Four and X both jumped up in surprise. The entire cube was shaking wildly!

“My head’s spinning!” X shouted in fear.

“We’re exiting the cube!”

“AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!”

The two were sent flying out of the cube. Four quickly readjusted themself in midair and caught X. Four looked down and saw that the cube was not just a normal box. It was a jack-in-a-box! A huge shadow loomed over Four. Four gasped in surprise to see the Collector towering over them! The Collector was easily over a kilometer tall! He was shaking the jack-in-a-box and laughing. The Collector looked down at Four and stopped shaking the box.

“Pop goes the weasels!” The Collector laughed, snapping his fingers. Instantly, Four and X felt a huge bomb appear in their stomach! Four looked at the Collector in annoyance.

“I hate you.”

BOOM!

Four and X both screamed in pain as they exploded into a pile of confetti! The confetti slowly floated to the floor. The Collector smiled and turned back to his normal size. He looked back to King and waved.

“King! I beat them!”

King was floating on a large star-like UFO the Collector had made. He got off and waved back at the Collector.

“That’s great! Now what?”

“Simple! We go back home and play games!” The Collector laughed.

“I love games!”

"Yeah- Wait a minute…"

“Uhh Collector? You might wanna look behind you.” King said, pointing his finger behind the Collector. The child turned around to see Four, good as new.

“They survived!” The Collector said in shock.

“You betcha!" Four said, lifting their thumbs up and winking.

“Why can't everything go my way...” The Collector muttered.

"Say, you want to play a fun game?" Four asked.

“Sure!"

"Well I have a fun game we could play! It’s called hide and seek!”

“Ooooh! I love this game!” The Collector squealed.

“Me too! I’m it first! I’ll count to one hundred!” Four said. They closed their eyes and began to count. The Collector ran away, laughing. King warily followed the Collector.

“Collector? Why are you suddenly playing a game with that thing? You were just fighting it! At least should we run away?”

“But hide and seek!” The Collector stammered.

“Fair point…” King muttered, continuing to follow the Collector.

“29… 30! Ready or not, here I come!” Four yelled happily, flying high to look for the Collector.

“Huh. That child isn’t visible! Guess I’ll have to odd the evens!”

Four swooped back down to the ground and grabbed a peculiar stone. One that looked like… An x?!? It was a multiplication stone! This was their chance- And Four dropped it… Oh no, it cracked in half… It might be over for Four-

“Grah! YOU! I AM NEXT-LEVEL MAD AT YOU! STOP!!!”

Ok.

“Good! X! Come out!”

Four held out their hand and let X be revived. X looked at Four and then the cracked multiplication stone.

“You cracked it?”

“Yep!”

“Okay! But why did you revive me?”

“Remember episode 3,456,789 of BFB?”

“Don’t you mean episode six?”

“Oh.”

Four screeched next to X, killing them yet again. Four extended their hand and revived X… Again… I feel like this may not be the last time this happens.

“I’m sorry Four…”

“Good. Now lie down on the floor! And bring Six!”

“But Four! Multiplying numbers together always creates even numbers! You wanted to odd the evens, not even the evens!”

“Shhhhhhheets of paper! You’re right! Uhh lie down and turn 90 degrees diagonally!”

“Okay?”

X lied down on the ground and rotated their body. Four’s face contorted into a huge grin. X had become an addition sign!

“Perfect! Now stay there as I get-”

“Hi Four!” A voice said from above.

“Oh. You.” Four said, a hint of anger leaking into their voice. Their grin slowly turned upside down.

“Yup! It’s me, Two! How have ya been, my friend?”

“I’m not your friend… Ah ha!I have an idea! Hold still!”

“Okay!” Two said, brimming with enthusiasm.

“Four? What are you doing- Woah!” X screamed in surprise as they were picked up by Four telekinetically and placed between them and Two. Two looked a bit annoyed at Four’s plan and sighed.

“Really? This again? Fine… But just this once!”

“Thank you!”

X started to glow. They were glowing brighter and brighter, almost becoming a tiny sun!

“Donut! Come over here!”

A donut came running to Four. Donut skidded to a stop in front of the Algebralian.

“What is it, Four?” Donut panted.

“Get a sled and ram me into X!!”

“Really? This again-”

“Hurry up!”

“Ok alright!”

Donut grabbed a sled from nowhere and quickly ran to a nearby hill. They put the sled on the hill slope, hopped on, and quickly bursted down towards Four, accelerating to mach speeds. The wind flew by Donut’s face so hard, Donut fell off the sled! The incoming sled crashed into Four and pushed them into X, the moment they were the brightest! Two and Donut covered their eyes with their hands as a bright light engulfed everything…

The light soon dispersed, revealing two figures. One figure was Donut, who looked around for any Algebralian.

“Four? X? Two? Anyone?”

Donut suddenly heard footsteps from behind him. He turned around to see a blue figure standing, no, floating above him.

“Four? Is that you?”

The figure slowly dropped to the ground. Their feet plopped onto the floor, producing a huge boom. Donut looked up to see…

“PUFFBALL?!?” Donut shouted with surprise.

“What? No! I’m Six!” The figure said, shoving aside the smoke, revealing a dark blue Algebralian that was shaped like the number, 6.

“Oh! I see! But I thought you wanted to even the odds?”

“Isn’t six an odd number?”

“...Nevermind. Just go do whatever you wanted to do originally!” Donut shouted.

"Oh, I will!" Six said with a sly smile.

Donut awkwardly walked away as Six grinned mischievously. Two and X slowly woke up, having been knocked out and laying on the floor.

“Ugh… Huh? Six? Is that you?” X asked.

“Hi Six! You’re looking awfully grim today! Have you seen- Oh wait. You’re Four.” Two said, their face turning slightly annoyed.

“Yup! I’m gonna trick that kid now!”

“Six- I mean Four! Do you even know where the kid is?”

“I’m too tired to even screech at you. I’ll just move him towards me with my powers-”

“You there!” The Collector shouted, popping out from a nearby bush, alongside King. “Do you know where that blue shaped number is? They look like you, but look like the letter four, instead of six. I got bored waiting for them to find me!”

“Drat! You ruined my plan!”

“Your plan?”

“Hey guys! What’s upppp...” the real Six shouted, walking into frame. Her shout turned into a mutter as she looked at herself and the imposter.

“I HAVE A TWIN!?!” She gasped.

“No! I’m Four! I just disguised myself as you to fool this brat! But he just had to ruin everything!”

“You’re Four?!” The Collector shouted. "I guess that explains the light."

A pillow suddenly emerged from the ground, covered with mud.

“Awkward!”

A laugh track was heard in the back.

“YAHHHH!!!!” Four cried in rage. Four shapeshifted themself into their normal appearance and quickly developed their hands towards the sky.  Two huge boulders were lifted telekinetically and thrown at the Collector, Pillow, King, and poor Six. The Collector caught both rocks with his own telekinesis and threw them back at Four, hitting them square in the eye.

“AH!” Four screamed in pain. Four held their palms over their eye and tried to heal themselves.

Using this newfound opportunity, the Collector quickly opened a portal and pushed Four inside.

"Let's go somewhere I'm more familiar with!"

He grabbed King and hopped onto a huge star-like vehicle. The vehicle burst off the ground and flew into the portal. The portal slammed shut, leaving Pillow, Six, and Two by themselves.

“Huh. I hope Four is okay.” Two said. “Wait, where’s X?”

Part 2: TBA[]

Results[]

Note: This battle did not use crossover scaling. Which means stuff like Inanimate Insanity, The Daily Object Show, Animatic Battle, Excellent Entities, e.t.c scaling for Four and Amphibia, Gravity Falls, Phineas and Ferb, Chibiverse, e.t.c scaling for The Collector won't be applicable.

Next time[]

Trivia[]

- The connections between Four (BFDI) and the Collector (The Owl House) are two powerful beings with nigh omnipotent power who seek only fun and games. They both were misunderstood, but eventually gained respect from their friends.

  • Extremely powerful, chaotic, childish, abnormal, game-loving beings, capable of effortlessly defeating most of their home verse.
  • Both are introduced to their series as mysterious beings with unexplained origins at this point in their series.
  • Both save the characters of their verse from a catastrophic event using their hand (The Draining Spell for the Collector and Black Hole sucking up the contestants for Four).
  • Both are seen as villains as first, but are eventually revealed to be misunderstood.
  • Both secretly seeked fun and friendship, but were greatly misunderstood (The Collector got tricked by their siblings into going to the Boiling Isles and play with the Titans, only for the aforementioned siblings to kill off all the Titans, leaving on one titan left. This titan thought the Collector killed off his brethren and sealed him off. Four, due to their crazy and violent demeanor, was taken for granted by the contestants. Many didn't want them as their host and seeked new hosts for their show).
  • Both, after their backstories were revealed, were forgiven by their peers and even became friends with people who originally thought they were nothing but evil (The Collector became friends with most of the Boiling Isles, especially King and Four became friends with most of the contestants and Two).
  • Both of them, after being forgiven, became far less chaotic.
  • Both have a main color scheme that involves the color blue.
  • Both are genderless, but sometimes referred to as "he."
  • Both of them are related to dreams in some way (The Collector often sleeping in his bedroom and having a major episode about him being named "Watching and Dreaming" and Four hosting a show called "Battle for Battle for Dream Island").

- The first part of this battle was inspired by this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWowcIhEh8&list=LL&index=23

- The blog listed greatly helped me with the research: User blog:TheSmileyC1/Death Battle Fanon Prediction Blog: Four vs The Collector

- OST name: Watching and Screaming

  • The name relates to the episode of The Owl House, "Watching and Dreaming" while also referencing Four's many screams. It would show the Collector's prison ball with a gigantic blue hand surrounding it. Plus some blue stars and objects in the background. The song would be instrumental and would be written by Therewolf Media. It would have musical notifs from BFB recap, BFB theme song, and The Owl House theme song. Since it does not exist, this song will be used for the pre-fight, this song will be used for part 1, TBA.
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