Bill Cipher vs. Q (Star Trek)

This is a What-If? Death Battle featuring Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls) and Q (Star Trek)

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Bill Cipher vs Q (Gravity Falls vs. Star Trek)
Season 1, Episode 14 (Season 1 Finale)
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Air date	11/22/2021
Written by	RohgeKiller
Directed by	RohgeKiller
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Prelude

Wiz: Our season started with a nightmare fueled battle of the reality warpers, so its only fair that we end it on one. Out of the cacophony of quantum manipulating, time distorting, spatial deforming, gravity defying beings in the realm of fiction, I'm inclined to believe that we may be going to far this time.

Boomstick: Come on, Wiz. What's a few more universes down the drain when its all in the name of entertainment? Besides, we're about to watch two reality benders destroy our entire ways of life at the atomic level. Might as well sit back and enjoy what little moments we have left. So take a seat and drink for once you lowly dweeb.

Wiz: No thanks. If I'm going out, I'm going out sober.

Boomstick: You're loss.

Wiz: There are few certainties in the world, Boomstick. But one of those is that nothing is certain.

Boomstick: Like Bill Cipher. The reality defying, polygonal dream demon of Gravity Falls.

Wiz: And Q. The all-knowing, time distorting being of chaos from Star Trek.

Boomstick: He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick!

Wiz: And for our season finale, we're taking a look at the overwhelming power of two of the most disorderly, chaotic and destructive deities of the past and present to find out who would win a Death Battle!

Bill Cipher

Gravity Falls - Weirdmageddon Opening Theme Song - HD

Boomstick: Gravity Falls… enough said. I’m going home.

Wiz: Wait, we just started. You can’t leave.

Boomstick: Look, Wiz. Everyone and their grandmother knows about this show by now. The only people that don’t are the ones that insist it's not good and don’t bother to watch it. What can we say that hasn’t been said?

Wiz: There’s always more to say about this endearing Disney show. From its simple yet compelling mystery, to its likable, childish protagonists.

Boomstick: And then of course there's the oddly shaped villains with high pitched voices. Because Teen Titans GO wasn’t already annoying enough.

Background

• Names: Bill Cipher (which is more of a username), Creature No. 326, True name is unknown
• Race: Unknown, Dream Demon
• Gender: Indefinable
• Age: Reportedly 3 trillion years old (at least 1 trillion)
• Origin: Gravity Falls S1E19: Dreamscaperers (TV, 12 July 2013)
• Likes: Chaos, Madness, Randomness...
• Dislikes: Order, Symphonic Music, Children...

Wiz: Trillions of years ago in what was known as the 2nd dimension, the triangular demon, Bill Cipher, was looking for a way to escape into other dimensions. This was of course, while he was destroying it. Eventually he discovered and quickly moved to another dimension, the third, which also happens to be Gravity Falls, Oregon.

Boomstick: Why do demons always seem to target small towns with the dumbest inhabitants? Pennywise, Freddy Krueger, The Stranger Things Monster… they know there’s more to the world right?

Wiz: While Bill couldn’t take physical form, as a dream demon he had no need to. For years he infiltrated the minds of us pathetic humans, leaving hidden effigies of his existence.

Boomstick: Nothing says evil like leaving cosmic graffiti all over human culture.

Wiz: At some point he learned of a prophecy stating his eventual arrival into the world. This was briefly put on pause after he was locked away by the natives of Gravity Falls, who then proceeded to write out how to summon him again. Why they chose to do this instead of keeping it a secret, well, we wouldn’t have a show if they did. After a chance meeting with one Stanford Pines, Bill was released once again and used Stan to create a machine that would open a portal to his dimension, and unleash chaos upon the universe.

Boomstick: Pines managed to stop Bill and hide away his plans, leaving the 2 dimensional demon stranded in Gravity Falls, waiting for some dumbass to open the portal and make a deal that they couldn’t refuse. Which is kind of his whole thing, ya see. Bill is a master manipulator who often makes one way deals with unsuspecting people, who he then uses to fuel his own games.

Abilities (All of these to the Nth Degree)

• Immortal and Non-Corporeal
  • Exists as a form of energy
  • Quantum Uncertainty
• Reality Warping
  • Matter Manipulation
  • Life and Death Manipulation
  • Warps Physics
  • Negates durability
• Control over Time and Space
• Dimensional Travel
  • Via dimensional tearing
• Regeneration
• Telekinesis and Telepathy
• Sleep, Dream Manipulation and Nightmare Inducement
• Precognition
• Teleportation
• Shapeshifting/Size manipulation
• Mind and Memory Manipulation
• 4th Wall Awareness
  • Is aware of our existence
• Possession
• Portal Creation
• Fire Manipulation

Wiz: As a Dream Demon, Bill is arguably at his most powerful when inside someone's mind, much like Freddy Krueger before him. Warping a person's mind into a sort of library that allows him access to all of their secrets, as well as being able to accomplish almost anything he wants through his incredible reality warping.

Boomstick: Ya, he’s the definition of ‘hax’. Even at his most restrained he can change the laws of gravity, warp space and control time to ridiculous degrees. Just by doing the bare minimum he can stop time, lift heavy objects with telekinesis, teleport in and out of reality, rip a person's soul from their body, mess with the wind and weather and grow to massive sizes.

Wiz: Bill is a master of using the environment to his advantage, be it physical or metaphysical. He can transform himself and objects around him by breaking them down to the atomic level. His existence itself seems to allow him to be whatever he wants without consequence from natural law because, there is no laws.

Boomstick: And that's not even when he’s trying to be offensive. Just wait till he actually gets mad, then he starts using those reality bending powers to cause real mayhem. We put a whole on the side here, there's just too much to analyze.

Strength

• Physical strength varies via size manipulation
  • Once grew large enough to encompass the earth
• Powers exceed that of Time Baby
  • Who at some point would have enslaved all of humanity
• Can cause a rip in a dimension that will eventually destroy the universe.

Durability

• Varies via size manipulation
  • Comparable to his own attacks
• Ignores conventional durability
  • Physically regenerates from most damage
• Is nearly untouchable when in someone's mind

Speed

• Should be comparable to his own attack speed
• Once flew from the earth to Jupiter in 2 seconds
  • Granted it was during a monologue, but it's implied he is able to do as seen.
• Somewhat irrelevant when using reality warping or in someone's mind

Intelligence

• Very limited omniscience
• 1 trillion years (at least) of knowledge
• Is at least aware of the ‘real’ world
• Made clever deals with many humans throughout history

Wiz: Aside from basic pyrokinesis, Bill is known to possess others' bodies and minds, fly, duplicate himself or fire lasers from his single eye. His regeneration (for the most part) allows him to survive almost anything that his reality warping doesn’t automatically negate. Precognition allows him to see multiple variations of the future, and know when exactly he needs to show up to make a deal. And if he manages to get someone to agree to his terms, Ciphers potential increases tenfold.

Boomstick: Like a politician, you really don’t want him inside your head. He can warp anyone's mind to his liking and if he doesn’t drive you insane with his batshit crazy warping, he’ll just induce never-ending nightmares on you. Especially if he hits you with those Madness Bubbles. I guess being from the Nightmare Dimension will get you pretty far in that regard.

Wiz: Even outside of a dream, Bill's powers are seemingly limitless. Especially when he acquires a ‘’Multi-Dimensional Makeover’’. At his physical peak he is depicted as being a God amongst mortals. He can lay waste to acres of land with a single punch, grow to the size of the earth and reach Jupiter within 2 seconds. He has complete control over matter and can disassemble and reform anything at a molecular level, turning people into harmless objects for his amusement. Simply put, all natural laws are irrelevant once Bill is at his full potential. Weight, gravity, time, speed: all of it becomes nothing but tools for Bill's disposal.

Boomstick: That would explain how he was able to take over his entire dimension and strike fear into those who would normally be considered way above his weight class. Even supposedly higher dimensional beings like Time Baby were easily wiped away by Bill. That 9 trillion ton baby was also supposed to enslave all of humanity at some point. It's no wonder he was considered the single greatest threat to the multiverse, which in this context means, all ‘infinite’ universes.

Wiz: That’s not even the most frightening part, Boomstick. Bill's mere existence is a threat to whatever universe he inhabits through what is known as Dimensional Tearing. The more powerful he becomes and longer he’s there, the less stable the fabric of the universe becomes. Meaning, on a theoretical level, Bill could disrupt the very balance of the Multiverse should he ever reach his full potential. And with his Cross-Dimensional Awareness, it’s only a matter of time before he discovers all of them.

Boomstick: Heck, he’s already discovered our world and… oh no, NOT AGAIN!...

Wiz:...

Boomstick: Huh? Usually this is when someone with 4th wall breaking abilities shows up and harasses us for 5 minutes.

Feats

• Ruled over/most likely destroyed the 2nd dimension
• Would have, theoretically, ruled over the universe had he not been stopped
  • Blendin referred to him as a threat to the multiverse.
• Has complete control over Space, Time and Gravity
• His mere existence destroys natural law
• Erased Time Baby

Faults

• His eye (insert regeneration joke)
• Is unbelievably ignorant
• Existence/Memory erasure can affect him

Wiz: Well, Bill might be aware of our existence, that doesn’t mean he’s entirely capable of harming you, unless he enters our universe through a dimensional tear. Bill is without a doubt a threat to any dimension he inhabits, but he has to get there first.

Boomstick: And even when he does, the only thing seemingly stopping him from wiping out everything is himself. He’s very overconfident in his own abilities and despite that precognition we mentioned earlier, it sure didn’t seem to prevent him from, you know, dying. And if by chance you can somehow counter his abilities with, I don’t know, a gun that can wipe memories or weapons that can distort space, you’d be in decent shape by chance he comes around.

Wiz: Much of Bill's scheming required him to make a lot of backhanded deals, and if he can’t do so when overwhelming force isn’t an option, he may find himself on the short end of the stick.

Boomstick: But don’t rest easy thinking you can avoid this polygonal demon for long. No matter how long it takes or how many deals he has to make, nothing’s going to stop him until he becomes the supreme ruler of all that exists.

"This party never stops. Time is dead and meaning has no meaning."-Bill Cipher

Q.

Star Trek- The Next Generation Intro HD

Wiz: Space: The final frontier.

Boomstick: Wiz, I love you and all, but it's only cool when I quote old show intros. Or anything for that matter.

Wiz: Boomsticks jealousy of my superior vocal ranges aside, there is nothing we know less about nor more expensive than space. In our miniscule amount of time on this little blue rock, there is so much that we have yet to discover. And in a not so distant future, mankind would eventually take to the stars, and boldly go where no man has gone before.

Boomstick: Of course they run into a few hiccups along the way. From the genocidal race known as the Romulans, a warrior race called Klingons, and a hyper advanced cyborg threat known as the Borg. Needless to say, we humans were kinda the galaxies equivalent to the mouse. Everyone hates us and wants us gone.

Wiz: But of all the threats faced by the Federation of Planets and other humanoid cultures like it, there is a single group of beings that has presided themselves as judge and jury of all mortal beings across all known and unknown dimensions. They are the Q continuum.

Background

• Name: Q
• Race: Q
• Gender: Q
• Affiliation: Q Continuum
• Age: ‘’Irrelevant’’ (But at least 4 billion)
• Origin: Star Trek: The Next Generation S1E1: Encounter at Farpoint (TV, 28 September 1987)
• Likes: Himself, Jean-Luc Picard, Himself
• Dislikes: Long Boring Speeches, Whoopi Goldberg

Boomstick: Imagine an otherworldly cult where everyone has the same name, occupation and god-given right to blow up whatever they want.

Wiz: The origins behind the mystical race of the Q are shrouded in mystery. These extra dimensional beings possess immeasurable power over space, time, the very laws of physics and reality itself, which seem to be whatever they desire. Even the most novice of Q have been known to accidentally create entire timelines. Luckily for existence as a whole, the Continuum’s mission prioritizes general order across the universe.

Boomstick: But there's one Q that shines above the rest. One who prefers to meddle with us petty mortals and cause general chaos wherever he can. His name is Q, of the Q continuum, of the Q race. Trust me, it's gonna get worse.

Wiz: Q is unlike his other brethren in the fact that he would rather interject himself in mortal affairs, getting directly involved in the very future of humanity, which he at first deemed unworthy of its existence. He put the entire human race on trial and threatened to annihilate them all if they couldn’t prove that they were indeed more than the savage people he claimed them to be. And yes, he totally meant he would wipe out all humans across all dimensions, of which there are limitless.

Boomstick: Luckily for humanity we happened to have Jean-Luc Picard on our side to give one of his many inspirational speeches which eventually convinced Q to give humans a chance. But that didn’t mean the trial was over, and it certainly didn’t mean he wouldn’t stop being a nuisance.

Abilities (god help me)

• Higher-Dimensional Existence
• Existence Erasure
• Reality Warping
  • Matter Manipulation
  • Antimatter Manipulation
  • Explosion and Radiation Manipulation
  • Physics and Quantum Manipulation
• Teleportation
• Regeneration
• Perfect Duplication
• Space-Time Manipulation
  • Antimatter Manipulation
  • Creates pocket realities
• Immortality
  • Life manipulation
  • Won't die when time collapses
• Size Manipulation
• Mind and Memory Manipulation
• Cosmic Awareness and Precognition
• Shapeshifting
• Telekinesis and Telepathy
• Light and Darkness Manipulation
• Complete Time Control
  • As well as Time Travel
  • Brought multiple generations of Star Trek forces to one period
• Portal Creation
• Durability Negation

Wiz: From catching their ship in a net, nearly causing the destruction of the Enterprise for fun to teleporting them to the edge of the known galaxy, to even playing God, Q is akin to the trickster god, Loki. He prefers playing one sided games with people who can’t normally fight back. But even other Q aren’t immune to his antics. His schoolboy nature only masks a startling intellect. Q's exact time of birth is unknown, yes, the Q reproduce like humans, but it is clear that he has been alive for a few billion years. Even so, his knowledge is even more vast, sporting an IQ of over two thousand. He seems to have a form of cosmic awareness that lets him know precisely where everyone and everything is, down to the nano-second.

Boomstick: What else would suffice from a being that exists in ‘’limitless dimensions’’. Basically, Q don’t have any one universe where they reside, and since they’re higher dimensional beings, they don’t have a beginning or end, they just barely exist.

Wiz: In the Star Trek Universe, there are confirmed to be 18 higher dimensions, and the Q exist in every single one. Making them as immortal as possible to the point that even the collapse of multiple timelines can’t kill them. As for Q himself, he’s survived the creation of and the destruction of the universe on multiple occasions, mostly due to his incredible reality warping abilities.

Boomstick: The Q as a race are just, insanely powerful. They can bend anything at a molecular level, create objects and even living beings out of thin air, send themselves to other dimensions or even bring people from other timelines into their own. Literally anything you’re probably thinking of, he and others like him can do. Shrink down a nebula's worth of beings into his hand, turn a starship into a christmas ornament, summon a mariachi band, it's pretty much a question of what he can't do at this point.

Strength

• Physical strength varies via size manipulation
  • Often shrinks his opponents down to fit in his palm
• Created and later dissolved an entire universe
• Created several new timelines

Durability

• Exists within ‘’limitless dimensions’’
• Can survive attacks from other Q
  • A weaker Q, Quinn, couldn’t commit suicide if he tried
• Survived the collapse of multiple timelines
• Naturally resistant to space/time altering effects

Speed

• Immeasurable
  • He can appear in any time/dimension he chooses
• Cut a 70 year, warp nine trip to a few seconds (Faster than 50,997.8 times the speed of light)

Intelligence

• Near-Omniscient
• Knows of every possible timeline
• Claims to have an IQ of 2005
• Got in a verbal joust with Spock

Wiz: Much of his arsenal revolves around using time as a weapon: Freezing it, sending his opponents back in time or putting them in a timeless pocket dimension. He can even leave you in a timeless state where you can't age or move a muscle, you're just trapped between the voids.

Boomstick: And that's not even when he’s trying to hurt you. If he really wants to make your life hell, he’ll just take your soul and make you relive your worst moments. And a lot of Q's powers revolve around changing the battlefield, since much of his own dimension is incomprehensible to us mere mortals, he can warp it to look like whatever he wants. Basically, the universe is a canvas and he's Bob Ross.

Wiz: He once referred to the idea of changing the gravitational constant of the universe as simple. And since the Q are so immensely powerful, a civil war between them would cause catastrophe throughout the universe. Their weapons discharge enough energy to rival supernovas, and our Q survived multiple attacks from those weapons without a scratch. But even without these weapons, Q can still bend reality to a ridiculous degree. Like snapping away a meteor the size of a small moon or shrinking down the Calamarain, a non-corporeal race that forms clouds the size of nebulas.

Boomstick: A weaker Q, Quinn, admitted to using the birth of the universe as a hiding spot. Which coincidentally, our Q has as well. Imagine casually tanking the birth of the universe while playing hide and seek. I expect as much from the very same being that threatened to wipe out multiple races of people just for existing.

Wiz: Well despite his seemingly cruel hearted nature, Q is often seen as a necessary evil for humanity to overcome. He’s constantly putting them through rigorous tests and trials because in the end, he kind of wants humanity to succeed and realize their full potential. But the scary thing about his tests is that they’re only passable because he makes them so. If a situation arises where he doesn’t feel the need to play fair, his power becomes even greater.

Feats

• Threatened to wipe out all of humanity throughout the galaxy
• Sent himself and the Enterprise across the galaxy within seconds
  • It normally would have taken 70 years for the Enterprise to reach its destination
• Moved the Voyager outside the Space-Time Continuum
• Comparable to Quinn, who survived the effects of the Big Bang
• Admitted to using the beginning of time as a hiding spot

Faults

• Isn't usually aggressive enough to start fights
• Ignorant to anything that isn’t a Q
• Space distortion weapons can affect Q as a whole

Boomstick: Despite all his vast knowledge and power, Q would much rather be a quarreling pest than an actual threat most of the time. Unless he's serious enough to start a fight with someone on his level, he's usually picking on people well below his weight class, some have even been known to outsmart him. Like Spock for example, who basically just used logic to make Q second guess himself.

Wiz: Often, Q's greatest asset is his intelligent, but even he can’t predict the future like he’s sometimes claimed. And despite being powerful enough to survive blasts to rival the creation of the universe, Q is more of a trickster than an outright fighter. He can compete with others of his kind, but even he’s admitted that the uncertainty of fighting someone on his level does worry him.

Boomstick: Specifically, anything that can also rewrite the laws of space can prove a problem to most Q, and even outright kill them.

Wiz: But even thats a big if. Out of all the beings in the Star Trek Universe, from formless Prophets to the actual giant space amoebas, there is none that can rival the power of a being that lives through the worst the universe can offer... on the account that Q is usually the same one causing said problems to begin with. Because if there is one thing he is, its chaotic.

''You're to be denied *existence*. Humanity's fate has been sealed. You will be destroyed.''-Q

Intermission

Wiz: Alright. The Combatants are set, and we've run the data through all possibilities.

Boomstick: So kick back, relax, and enjoy however much time we got before this universe collapses in on itself. Because its time for DEATH BATTLE!

Pre-Fight

Location: Fearamid

Gravity Falls was no more.

Or at the very least it was unrecognizable from the small, arguably clueless town that it once was. Fires had erupted across the landscape and painted the sky with their ashes, burning the air. All manner of things that once made sense were simply thrown together or torn apart in ways that only a child could envision. Trees grew feet, clouds had wings, candy could speak, one eyed cyclops' burned into buildings with optic blasts…

Needless to say, nothing was as it seemed. Thousands of acres had been converted into a cacophony of strange, otherworldly entities not from this world, changing how the land itself looks like on the surface. The couple dozen or so members of the community were either dead, or warped and twisted, unholy creations. Completely beyond saving.

Floating at the center of town, in the center of it all, a massive pyramid shaped structure hosted the universe's weirdest party, complete with a host that couldn’t die. A Fearamid if you will. Inside was a party of cosmic proportions, filled from top to bottom with the oddest monstrosities from across the universe. At the top of the hierarchy sat a golden, one eyed being that shared a striking similarity with the eye of providence, atop a throne that stood tall above the rest of the strange creatures. He sipped on a drink as he simply sat back and watched the chaos unfold after finally cutting loose on the petty world around him.

This was the 2 dimensional, space-faring, time distorting master of chaos: Bill Cipher.

‘’Well, it's been a whole 2 minutes since I’ve discombobulated something. Let’s see,’’ He said in his usual high-pitched manner. His one eye looked around the charred remains of Gravity Falls before picking out one of the few remaining people amongst the rubble. Utilizing his telekinesis, the demon lifted the screaming human up towards his throne, silencing them with a wave of his finger. Saying ‘’I choose you!’’ before rearranging their molecules. Their flesh distorted before reforming into a small, yellow mouse.

‘’Haha, get it? Its funny because it's a reference to something else… oh forget it.’’ He sighed before flicking the small rodent into the stratosphere, falling back on his throne. ‘’Gee. Ruling over this dimension was fun for the first few days, but with everything weirdified, there's almost nothing left to do. I turned the moon into cheese, morphed the sun into a golf ball, I even turned the entire ocean into chocolate syrup.’’ He listed off the accomplishments which played visually over and over on his single eye as he really leaned into the chair. With the Pines family no longer an issue, on the account that he had disassembled them like lego bricks, there was nothing left to challenge him or provide entertainment.

‘’Oh well, time to move on to the next dimension.’’ He suddenly sat up, looking brighter than ever. He floated down the steps to address his dancing minions directly. ‘’Alright everyone listen u-’’

He paused as everything suddenly became quiet, and within a fraction of a second, every monster in and out of the pyramid had disappeared. ‘’Hey, where’d you guys go? I didn’t say you could leave.’’ His all seeing eye searched for his freakish companions and found none of them, not a single trace of their existence. In a literal blink of an eye, they were gone. ''Alright, very funny. Now which you of you lesser demons is responsible for this?''

"That would be Mwah!" A voice suddenly rang through the demon's mind, surprising him. A snap of light signaled the arrival of the newcomer: A being that appeared human in almost every way, and could fool almost anyone except for Bill, who immediately knew he was dealing with something not unlike himself. The sharply dressed man now sat on Bill's throne with a drink of his own.

"What lovely construction you have here. A little too polygonal for my tastes though,’’ Said the aptly named, ‘Q’ of the Q continuum. A member of the higher dimensional race that proclaims themselves as judges and, if needed, executioners, of the infinite dimensions of which they reside. ‘’You know there are other shapes besides triangles, right?’’ Q quipped, unconcerned that he had gotten the attention of the ever dangerous Bill Cipher, who floated up to greet the intruder with a wide eye.

‘’Well, well, I wasn’t expecting a member of the Continuum to show up so soon.’’ If Bill had the face of a man, he would be smirking as his retort seemed to catch Q off guard. ‘’What's that? How do I know about you? Well, I k-’’

‘’Yes, you know lots of things. I am aware.’’ Q said, rising to ‘eye’ level with the dream demon, who paused mid-rant.

‘’Oh you’ve heard of me? I’m flattered, really, I am.’’ His eye erupts in flame at the last word before going back to its usual shape. He took another sip of his drink as Q did the same with his, starting a mental war that would see which one of them could break the others patience first.

‘’But let's cut to the chase. I’ve got a lot of dimensions to visit and worlds to add to my resume. So, how are we doing this? You give me a citation and I pay it off within 10 days?’’ The nonchalant demon said, summoning a checkbook and pen to his hand. ‘’Come on… I can write all kinds of numbers on this thing, even the ones that don’t exist.’’ He emphasized his point by stretching the check to immense proportions, adding more zeros than one would think possible.

"Oh, I’m afraid we’re past minor warnings,’’ Q stated, laughing at first before the atmosphere suddenly became heavy around the pair, as if gravity was caught in a tug of war between two opposing forces. One trying to tear it apart, and the other holding it together. ‘’You were never meant to get this far, Bill. Those Pines brats should have stopped you, but I digress. Your meddling of the cosmos is causing a bit of a problem, of which I am here to rectify.’’ With a snap of his finger, Bill suddenly found that his entire fortress had disappeared, leaving them to float in the center of the red sky. And to make matters worse, his drink was gone.

‘’Hey, you can’t just repossess my stuff!" Bill shrieked, his lone eye becoming a bright shade of red. The immediate space around him distorted and cracked like glass as flames engulfed his hands, earning a posh smirk from the human shaped deity.

‘’Oh I’ll do more than that. I’ll begin the reconstruction of this world by expediting the reversal of your tear into this dimension.’’ Q said, his hand outstretched as the sky erupted around them. The X shaped hole in the sky spewing cosmic energy all around them.

‘’Oh no. Not ‘expedite’. Please! What ever will I do?’’ ‘Cried’ Bill as he clasped his hands in a mock prayer. ‘’Hmm, how about THIS!’’ A simple point and snap of a finger, and the battle of two of the greatest reality-warpers in existence had finally begun with an explosion worthy of a supernova. Space itself shattering around them and bringing upon pure chaos.

Part 1: A Trek into Madness

New World Symphony (Remix)

With the sky shattering around them to reveal the blackness of space, the pair remained the same distance away they had started, despite the massive implosion of reality. The very atoms that made up the atmosphere dissipated into nothing.

Looking to end this quickly, Bill fired a flurry of pyrokinetic blasts at the floating Q, who despite appearing human, blinked in and out of existence faster than Bill could perceive. Quickly closing the distance between them. The dream demon removed his hat, ‘tilting the screen’ as he did, catching Q off guard for a moment before winding back and striking him with his cane.

‘’You know what they say about bodies and temples…’’ Bill said before summoning a large imitation of the Taj Mahal and dropping it on Q from above. The building all but disintegrated as it did little more than dirty the deity’s clothes.

‘’No, I’m afraid I don’t.’’ Q responded just as Bill shot more blasts of flame from his palm. The fires did next to nothing and dissipated the moment they made contact with Q’s physical form. One eye roll and wave of a hand later, and Bill found himself falling towards the ground at incredible speeds, cutting through the air and crashing into the ruined earth. Q’s smirk came at the cost of the opportunity to finish Bill before he regained his composure, and one angry glare later, Q found himself feeling much heavier than usual.

Manipulating the gravity around his foe, Bill brought Q to the ground with a massive thud before rushing the deity. His fist grew 3 times its normal size before socking him right in the jaw, sending him through multiple trees before appearing above him to smash Q to the earth in a haze of dust. This was followed by literal hellfire erupting from the sky and upon the prone form of Q, who disappeared amongst the flames…

...before reappearing behind Bill, naught a scratch on him.

‘’Boo.’’ He said, spooking the laughing Cipher before blinking away to avoid another blast from the slowly fuming demon. Utilizing his telekinesis, Bill summoned tons of rock and magma to his side before launching them towards his foe. The eternal deity simply dodged every piece of rock at unimaginable speeds, avoiding the hail of projectiles. As Bill closed the distance, Q summoned a phaser-like weapon and fired directly at the dream demon.

Only for it to do absolutely nothing.

‘’Nice laser pointer!’’ Bill laughed as the hole in his chest fixed itself without a hitch. Perplexed, Q prepared to fire again before Bill grew much larger in size, dwarfing Q and forcing him to teleport away. But with speeds unimaginable for his size, Bill had predicted where Q was going to appear and fired an optic blast that engulfed Q in its blaze. Being a ‘being’ of energy as well, Q staggered for a moment before holding out his hand and absorbing the blast within his palm. Before Bill even had the chance to follow up, Q blinked directly in front of him and redirected the blast directly into Bill's eye. The force of the blow sent Bill flying across the sky, screaming at the pain of his one physical weakness being exploited once again.

‘’W-why! Every-Time!’’ Bill whined, rubbing his now smoking eye.

‘’Art thou supposed to be of a higher dimensional race? And yet you haven’t evolved past physical pain, ugh, typical of second rate knock-offs." Q mocked, not even bothering to react when reality shook around them and Bill suddenly grew to the size of a small mountain. The air collapsed on itself as he took up most of the sky, towering over Q who barely made up the space of the demon's iris. ‘’Oh, come on Bill. You’re just giving me more to w-’’

Whatever Q was going to say was quickly cut off as Bill smashed his foe between his hands, holding him in his flaming palms. Bringing the entity closer to his ‘face’, growling ‘’Survive this, Red Shirt! ” before blasting at the hapless Q with a burst of quantum energy, enveloping the surrounding landscape in flames and heating the atmosphere to ridiculous degrees. Anything else in Bills hands would have burned down to the molecule…

But Q wasn’t anything else.

‘’Quite the short fuse you have.’’ Q said, blinking before Bill as he shrunk down to normal size. Stating firmly ‘’I believe it's my turn!’’ before manipulating the very fabric around them to grow large enough to snatch Bill in one hand. Holding him up like a paper football and aiming for the darkness of space. With enough force to break the sound barrier, Q flicked the screaming Bill out of earth's orbit faster than any rocket. Ciphers pointed body spun like a shuriken and sliced through the moon, and spun and spun until he managed to regain control. Floating in circles inside an asteroid belt, incredibly frustrated and dizzy from the experience.

‘’Uhhh. If I had bodily functions, I’d be hurling right now.’’ He said just before hearing the distinct sound of Q’s blink. The deity stood on one of the many planetoids, now dressed in a fancy jacket with a golf club and cap in his possession.

''I have so enjoyed this little game, but I'm growing rather tired of it. So if you could...'' He lined up his club with one of the larger asteroids, concluding ''...get out of my galaxy!'' and flinging the large rock at the dazed Bill.

With his unparalleled manipulation of matter, Bill warped the asteroid around his body and flung it back at the unsuspecting Q, who sent it away with a wave of his hand. In that time however, Bill warped every asteroid in the belt into thousands upon thousands of oddly colored bubbles. But these were no ordinary bubbles as Q would soon find out. Bill summoned a comically large pin and popped one of them, resulting in the entire solar system being flooded with colorful gas.

The dream demon laughed as Q was engulfed in the afterbirth of the madness bubbles, and with a nebula sized cloud, there was no chance of him escaping unscathed. A twitch of what he could best described as a maddening itch ran through the deity’s body as he closed his eyes, covering his face with his hands.

‘’W-what manner of foul trickery is this?’’ said Q as he felt something dark creep into the recesses of his mind, threatening to crack.

‘’Oh, that's just the side effect of my madness bubbles. You feel that voice in your head telling you to do unspeakable things?’’ Bill laughed, summoning another chair to watch as Q struggled to regain control of his mind. Sensing victory in the palm of his hand. ‘’Feeling ready to Quit, Q? The Qualitative Quizzical Quean-Crazed Questions floating through your Quirky subconscious must be driving you mad. Hahaha. I came up with that on the fly, by the way.’’

But Bill has celebrated prematurely: Peeking through his fingers, Q chuckled before holding out his hand. Like a vacuum, he pulled the gas from the star system, shrinking it down into his palm. Much to the confused dismay of Bill. Soon the gas cloud was nothing more than a small speck of dust in his hand.

‘’Bravo Monsieur. Thou almost made me flinch,’' Q taunted, blowing away the gas. Another snap of a finger and suddenly, all around him came thousands of phasers. All locked on to the shaking Bill. ‘’But you know what they say… no prize for second place.’’ He said before they all fired simultaneously. The condensed beams of concentrated energy resulted in an explosion that rivaled the combined size of 12 supernovas. Wiping much of the solar system and a good chunk of the galaxy into nothingness, in one glorious blast of light. Disassembling everything in its path down to the last atom.

And then everything stopped.

‘’ENOUGH!’’ Bill shouted, breaking reality around him once more. Leaving the pair in a void deprived of all color, sound or smells. Even the destruction of half nebula wasn’t enough to keep Bill down. A single large eye slowly emerged from the vacant landscape, as all damage done to him was rapidly regenerating. His flexible, cartoony body reanimating before the immortal Q, who appeared as calm as he did at the start of their battle.

Part 2: Meaning has No Meaning

Gravity Falls - Theme Song (Naukorin Remix) - Weirdmageddon

‘’I gotta hand it to you Q-Ball, you’re a lot tougher than you look.’’ He said, emptying his hat of debris and fixing his tie. ‘’But let's be honest here, this is just a big waste of time for both of us, especially me. So how about we wrap things up!’’ Snapping his own finger, Bill summoned dozens of chains that wrapped and restrained Q before he could hope to retaliate. With extra care into keeping his hand still.

Drawing a finger across the white void, Bill drew a large door that opened into another dimension entirely. One that spewed fire and destruction. ‘’Allow me to introduce you to some of the interdimensional, crazed lunatics, psycho killers and mind bending sycophants that I call my friends.’’ From the portal came strange beings all appearing to be from the madness dimension. Each creature was a mishmash of limbs, elements and forms only a child could create. Eyes with wings, monsters made out of bread, dark voids made of sludge with multiple limbs.

Bill laughs as Q struggles to break free from his chains, surprising as even his ability to blink seems to have been nullified. ‘’Alright guys, play nice with our friend here. I gotta get ready to find a new universe to liberate.’’ Says Bill. Entering halfway into the portal as the nightmarish creatures surround the hapless Q, ready to tear into his fleshy form and do as they please. ‘’Farewell Q. Tis been a grand adventure.’’ He mocked before closing the portal behind him, leaving Q to his fate.

On Bills side of the dimensional tear, endless fires raged as more of those incredibly strange creatures emerged to see their lord of chaos return. All equally as awkward and random as the others had been. For Bill, it was a nice alternative to the now ruined universe, courtesy of one dead continuum member.

‘’Ah. Home sweet ho-’’

Suddenly everything was condensed as if it had been imported into photoshop and shrunken to the smallest pixel. From Bill's perspective, everything was being pushed together as if gravity had taken one too many shots. He could only stare in disbelief while frantically looked around while wondering how his entire dimension was being warped without his knowledge.

To anyone in third person, the 2nd dimension and everything inside it had transformed into a snow globe, trapping Bill and his minions inside. And holding the globe in his hand was a giant, and very irritated Q.

‘’W-what! How did you…’’

"You can’t hide from me, Bill!’’ He said, bringing the glass to his face to watch Bill try in vain to break free from his confines. His attempts at smashing the glass or teleporting were about as fruitless as starting a fire under water. ‘’But seeing as you want to travel so bad, why don’t we take a little trek across the stars.’’ Q chuckled with a menacing grin.

Cameo 1: Asriel Dreemurr vs. Discord by Omniversia999

One blink later, and everything around them was replaced by a rather cartoony world, not completely unlike Gravity Falls. Medieval structures made up most of the architecture, the sky around them as black as night. The randomized dimension they’d picked was, oddly enough, inhabited by colorful ponies, which even to Bill was kinda random.

‘’Oh no, we’re in a kids show!’’ Bill said behind the glass of his domed prison. The pair could see a battle of sorts was going on and an explosion could be seen from above just before Q decided to let Cipher go...in a sense. Upon seeing the being that caused the destruction, he summoned a baseball bat, breaking the glass and sending Bill flying right for it.

Said being was a pale, goat faced being that summoned two massive rainbow orbs of great energy. A wide grin on his face as he prepared to annihilate the entire world below him, but more specifically, the green dragon that should have known better than to mess with time travel. This was Asriel Dreemurr, the Angel of Death. And his wrath upon the world of Equestria would be swift and merciless.

‘’Behold,’’ He roared as the beings below trembled with fear at their imminent destruction. ‘’My TRUE PO-’’

Just before he could finish gloating, the globe carrying Bill came at him at such speed that he didn’t even notice it until it was too late. The screaming demon not only interrupted the angel's most powerful attack, but the force of their collision meant that only one was coming out alive. Thankfully for Bill, he happened to be very durable.

The same couldn’t be said for Asriel, whose only warning was a small prick at the neck before his head was sliced clean off, with Bill having moved so fast that he cut right through the former flowery, sending his separated head and body to the ground below. Bill meanwhile managed to stop himself from further hitting anything without a single scratch, with only some of Asriel's blood on the tip of his head.

‘’Ew…’’ He said before summoning a wipe to clean himself up.

From above the chaos, Q. laughed upon seeing Bill inadvertently take out one of the most powerful beings in the universe. He was so caught up in his laughter and other peoples expense that he barely noticed when the green dragon from before had flown up to him.

''And what might you be?'' The Chaotic Discord asked. He was already peeved at having most of his home destroyed by Asriel, so the appearance of Q. wasn't exactly easing his tensions.

‘’I am the all-powerful, quintessential, Q. And I must say, you’re voice sounds...familiar.’’ responded Q, giving a slight wink and nudge to the camera.

‘’So does yours. Have we met?’’

‘’No, I don’t belie-oh, sorry. Gotta go!’’ He quickly wrapped up before blinking away just in time to avoid a hellish beam of light. The same couldn’t be said for Discord who was blasted face first with the beam, sending him into the atmosphere with a wink of light.

Cipher flew into the air, ready for action once more as Q. blinked back into existence.

The dream demon summoned energy from the fear of Equestrias denizens and condensed it into a single ball of energy. Growing multiple arms, he spread the energy around his body and fired multiple beams in all directions, leaving Q no choice but to block it with his own. The beams cut into the world below him like scissors to paper, and yet only managed to knock Q off his balance.

His annoyance reaching its peak, Bills eye went bloodshot as he manipulated the gravitational pull of the planet, sending it in a tailspin for the nearest sun. Before Q. could rectify it, Bill summoned a giant, demonic hand from the sky that collided with and pinned Q to the soon to be ruined world. The demonic energy making the entities escape all the more difficult as the planet was now within seconds from burning up. The temperature rising astronomically.

As Q used his own telekinesis to push off and hold the massive hand at bay, Bill grabbed him with multiple limbs and proceeded to wallop him with blow after blow, cracking the crust beneath them. At the moment Equestria and the two beings of chaos were about to be engulfed in plasma, a dazed Q managed to avoid one last punch and quickly snap his fingers. Teleporting the pair away from the doomed planet, which they left to be vaporized by the sun.

In the span of a millisecond, the pair transported through multiple dimensions like an interstellar bullet. Breaking through the metaphorical glass that was the boundaries of the multiverse. Their presence alone caused discourse and mayhem as they appeared in one world and left within a fraction of a second. But it wasn’t as if they just appeared out of nowhere…

More accurately, they existed in one world, and ceased too the moment they blinked away. One moment Bill would be firing plasma beams from his hands and Q would be snapping cities apart, the next they’d be gone. Leaving destruction in their wake.

Yet even as they broke through the boundaries of the universe, causing supernovas and blackholes to erupt, some places in the universe remained, relatively unaffected.

''Oh, well then...As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted,'' Said a rather bemused Stan Lee, who sat upon a lonely asteroid in the middle of deep space. His meeting with The Watchers interrupted once more by the brief appearance of dimension hopping immortals, who arrived as soon as they had left, leaving him to remember the tale he was recounting. ''if you can believe it, they turned him into a pickle. It was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.''

Meanwhile, Bill managed to stop Q’s teleportation mid snap, leaving them in the vastness of space as they were thrown aside by their own momentum. The Dream Demon flew through space like a rocket, his speed alone decimating the gravitational pull of the nearby planets as he struck down multiple projectiles thrown by Q. Using his unmatched control of matter manipulation, he warped the very space around him into a sort of armor, reflecting the beams of light sent his way by Q’s more advanced weaponry.

At the same time, Bill telekinetically grabbed two planets and smashed them together. The force would have crushed anything lesser than a god, of which Q proved he surpassed by several margins by remaining completely unharmed.

‘’Seriously!’’ The frustrated Bill screamed. His anger rising to the point that he had to grow in size just to contain it, reaching the size of a small star as Q remained stone faced.

With a flick of his hand, Q reversed the entire gravitational constant of the universe, sending Bill falling through the depths of space. As he shrunk down, Cipher summoned a forcefield before crashing through multiple planets, only stopping as Q changed the battlefield once more.

Cameo 2: Speedrunner Mario vs. SMG4 Mario by HyperSsonic

As everything warps to fit a more, cheap 3d style, Bill crashes through the ceiling of a familiar castle. He barely manages to stop himself from upending a dinner table, knocking away utensils and, most notably, a plate of spaghetti. As Bill rises and tries to comprehend what dimension he’s been sent to, he barely notices a pudgy shadow rising behind him.

‘’What the F*ck! I was eating that plate of spaghetti!’’ Shouted an even more familiar looking plumber… and yet it wasn’t the one most people would be acquainted with. This one was notably...dumber. ‘’You best apologize right now, or Mario's gonna to do something illegal!’’ Said ‘not quite Mario’ as he jumped around in some sort of mock boxing stance.

‘’You gotta be-’’ With a powerful backhand, ‘Mario’ knocks the demon away as the Taco Bell sound effect plays.

He then grabs Bill by the legs and swings him, moving like a blur as he shouts '’SO LONG GA-’’ before the demon grows in size. Halting his momentum. Turning red, Cipher enlarges to the size of the castle itself, breaking it around him.

He picks up the smaller Mario as Q blinks into existence before him. With him is an unwitting imitation of Mario, SpeedRunner Mario to be precise, who keeps chopping at Q to no effect. But it doesn’t stop him from trying. ‘’Having fun?” Q asked, rather coyly about the whole strange situation.

‘’Tell you what,’’ Bill turned his attention to ‘Mario’. ‘’I’ll get you a whole plate of spaghetti if you help me take care of this guy.’’ SMG4’s version of Mario wasn’t very smart, but he didn’t have to think very long…

So of course he fell for it.

‘’It’s a deal!’’ The chubby plumber said, leaping onto Bill's head. Screaming ‘’Lets a go!’’ before equipping dual submachine guns. Firing a barrage of bullets as Bill sent multiple beams at Q. who either teleported away from them or deflected them. Smacked his lips, Q telekinetically picking up the spazzing SR Mario and launching him at the two. Spinning through the air, SR went from one target to the other and with one massive slap, sent Glitchy Mario hurling into the screen, cracking it.

Concentrating a massive amount of energy within him, Bill started glowing with even more power as the space around him glitched and broke apart.

‘’I’d like to see you survive this!” Bill screamed as Q rose a barrier around him. Unleashing one massive explosion from his body, destroying everything in its path…

And then everything froze.

Time itself was locked in place for a good few moments before out from the corner of the screen came SMG4, now addressing the limited audience. ‘’Hello, it’s a-me. Due to certain legal issues, we are unable to show the rest of this fight with myself and SR Mario, or we will certainly be blocked by HyperSsonic, on the account that we stole his entire script. Sorry for the inconvenience.’’

He then uses a remote to rewind the last few minutes, pausing and playing right at the moment where Bill grew to the size of a small star. After failing to crush Q between two planets, Bill exploded with rage. Not missing a beat, the demon closed his fist which caused the nearby sun to explode with violent implosion. The energy sunk in on itself, creating a massive black hole that threatened to swallow both of them. But Bill knew what he was doing.

‘’You know, I’ve decided I don’t want this dimension anymore,’’ Raising his hand up, an ominous ball of energy swelled as it absorbed the power of black hole to create a new tear in the universe. It ballooned to twice the size of himself in an instant in the palm of his massive hand.

‘’YOU CAN HAVE WHAT'S LEFT!”

He released all the energy in the form of an explosion that could only rival the creation of the universe. The giant ball of quantum energy engulfed Q, pushing him back as his eyes went wide. He attempted to hold back the the overwhelming power from consuming his physical form, seemingly to no avail. The very fabric of space was being torn apart at the seams. A brilliant and biblical burst of energy ripped through space and left behind an empty void in its wake.

Nothing except Bill.

For a while, it was just him in a dead universe where no life could thrive.

‘’Well… that was intense.’’ He said, wiping away the sweat from his ‘brow’. Content with the fact that he could live to see another day. And there were other dimensions to liberate besides this one. ‘’Now, how should I ge-’’ he paused, and if he had a jaw it would have dropped.

Because despite all conventional belief to the contrary, Q was alive and before him. Dressed in all white.

‘’Wh-WHAT! How are-’’

‘’Oh Bill, this is sad.’’ Q said. He slowly walked up to the confused demon like a man on a mission. ‘’We had our fun, didn’t we? But now it's coming to an end.’’ With a snap, Q summoned the very same ball of quantum energy that just previously eradicated the entire universe. Now condensed in his hand.

‘’End? I'll give you an e-’’ Bill attempted to use pyrokinesis to burn the deity before him, but found that his power was all but gone. ‘’Wha-why isn’t this working? What have you done!’’ He shrieked at the stone faced Q.

‘’I may have cheated a bit. I created an alternate timeline right before we started this little game, just to see if you were worth the effort.’’ He flicked the destructive orb aside. The energy pulsed before it grew, and grew, and began to erase everything in a mass of flames. Much to the now frightened Bill's dismay.

‘‘This was never about beating you, it was all a test… and you failed.’’ Q remarked coldly. Uncaring as the void around them was slowly being vaporized from existence.

‘’Nonononono! This can’t be happening!’’ Bill screamed as he flailed around, trying every method to escape as the fires drew closer and closer. He felt every molecule that made up his body begin to shrink down into nothing, no matter what form he attempted to take. In desperation, he began to chant in some backwards language ‘’Nruter yam I taht rewop tneicna eht ekov-’’ before he was silenced as Q cut off all sound, except his own.

‘’Bon Voyage, Bill. Better luck in the next timeline.’’ And with one final snap of his fingers, he left Bill to die as everything was erased.

Permanently.

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Results

Q.

• +Much faster attack/reaction speed
• +Greater time manipulation
• +Superior battlefield control
  • +Could more freely travel to dimensions/timelines
• +Physically harder to damage or alter
  • +More durable as a whole
• -Less overall experience
• -Power nullification was mostly useless

Bill Cipher

• +More creative reality warping
• +Better Regeneration when at full strength
  • +Greater control over his own physical form
• +More offensive capabilities
  • +As far as pure chaos was concerned
• -Unable to access Q’s mind
  • -Qs don’t have physical bodies or minds to manipulate
• -Significantly slower
• -Vulnerable to being
• -As a form of energy, could theoretically be manipulated

Boomstick: I feel both overwhelmed and underwhelmed. Like, I expected both more, and less. I guess that's the theme here because there was A LOT to unpack. Especially since we haven’t seen either at their most powerful.

Wiz: Much of what both could do when unrestricted was still relatively unknown, but what we did know is that for all of Bill's zany, 4th wall breaking madness, he was just outclassed here.

Boomstick: Both of them have very similar feats and abilities despite being completely different characters. They could both telekinetically lift objects well over 3 thousand tons and fire and block projectiles that could wipe out entire nations. But even with that said, Qs abilities are just slightly more impressive. Don't be surprised if there isn't much math here... I don't think either one cares for it.

Wiz: Both were capable of destroying or erasing entire universes from the map, but not only was Q able to do it more efficiently but he was the only one who could survive such an attack. Not only could he have erased all of humanity from across all universes instantaneously, and destroy entire timelines, but he’s also survived similar events. Like the collapse of the universe and multiple timelines at once. A weaker Q named Quinn tried to commit suicide by taking the force of the Big Bang, which had no effect on him.

Boomstick: The closest Bill could ever come to that was ‘liberating’ the 2nd dimension, and threatening to destroy the fabric of the entire universe at his most powerful. Nothing to squawk at, but it's also nothing Q hasn’t already done, and some.

Wiz: Theoretically speaking, Bill could possibly kill Q if he landed a lucky blow. Seeing as he was able to one shot Time Baby, who is stated to be capable of destroying the very fabric of existence. There's just two major problems: One, Q. is unquestionably faster by a massive margin. Bills greatest speed feat involved him moving from Earth to Saturn in less than 3 seconds, which rounds out to around 1334.89% the speed of light.

Boomstick: Now, to Q. and others like him, speed is irrelevant as he can exist in any form of time he chooses.

Wiz: But for the sake of math, at minimum, Q was able to send himself and the crew of the Enterprise across the galaxy, cutting the 70 year voyage down to just a few seconds. Given the estimated size of the Star Trek Galaxy, and the fastest known recorded speed of the Enterprise at warp 9, Q would have had to have moved 50,997.8% the speed of light. That's 38x faster than Bill.

Boomstick: But seeing as both could just manipulate the fabric of the universe to suit their whims, it's likely that both could travel much faster. And even then, Q didn’t need physical speed to outpace Bill. As a member of the Continuum, he exists within a limitless amount of dimensions, meaning he could just dip whenever Bill got too strong and play it at a safe distance. Which was another big advantage for Q as, unlike Bill who claims to know ‘lots of things’ he doesn’t have nearly as much omnipotence as Q. Sure he could witness specific events play out, but Qs cosmic awareness is far greater. He automatically knows of everything that happens across the universe on a whim, and can get there just as quickly.

Wiz: But the second and most important factor in this fight was their reality warping. Bill is definitely more creative and destructive, but when it comes to manipulating everything down to the last detail, Q. had him outmatched if only for one big reason… Q. couldn’t be manipulated like everyone else he’s faced. This is because Qs as a species don’t exist on any physical plain, meaning that Bill couldn’t even use his greatest assets against him. Not only that, but he’d never be able to enter Qs mind, as mentioned by Deanna Troy, Qs don’t have a physical mind to manipulate.

Boomstick: But Bill is pretty damn powerful even if he can’t access your memories. On a completely theoretical level, his power may trump Qs in most aspects when it comes to manipulating the physical world. Heck, a little tear in space is all he needs to start destroying everything that exists. But that's where the problem lies. Q's power completely ignores all realms of plausibility because they aren’t limited to just one universe.

Wiz: But by far, Qs greatest asset was his unmatched control of time, which completely trumped Bills in every way. Bill wasn’t kidding when he said he could manipulate time, but its limit seems to be stopping it, not altering it. Q on the other hand, is the only one who can warp time in multiple timelines at once and travel through it with no effort. Meaning that even if Bill managed to create a rip in the universe powerful enough to wipe out Q, there’s almost nothing stopping the continuum member from just starting the battle over or creating an entirely new universe. And Bill would never know about it.

Boomstick: And with Qs faced other beings with similar destructive capabilities as Bill, like Trelane, who possesses the power of ''the literal center of the universe.'' And with his superior speed, battlefield control and intelligence, it was only a matter of time before he got the upper hand. And with his the power to create/erase entire timelines, thats two of Bills specific weaknesses in one. A double whammy of overpowering him, and erasing him from existence.

Wiz: Make no mistake, The Dream Demon was no pushover and certainly gave Q a run for his money. But with his greatest weapons all but useless against a being that can outpace, out-think and overpower him, there was little he could do but delay the inevitable.

Boomstick: Bill was a mystery that Q had no problem DeCiphering.

The Winner is Q.

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Trivia

• Bill and Q are both immortal, ageless deities who at their full strength can manipulate the fabric of their universe to godly degrees.
• Both Bill and Q are known to cause random chaos and havoc in their respective universes, and both known as liars, cheats and deceivers who meddle in the affairs of mortals.
  • The only real difference is Q is still bound to some form of order, The Continuum, while Bill has no moral obligations.
• Bill and Q are known to specifically target certain humans, Stanford Pines and Jean-Luc Picard respectfully, either to obtain information or just to get their attention.
  • Q, even at his most cruel, has been shown to pass on lessons to Picard, while Bill has no real rhyme or reason for his torment of the Pines family.
• Despite being labeled as villains, Bill and Q are often regarded as two of the most loved characters of their series.
• One of their most famous scenes involves them playing an instrument to the dismay of the main characters, with Bill playing a piano and Q playing mariachi.
• Somewhat of a random fact: John de Lancie, the actor who portrays Q, also voices Discord (who cameos here as well) another popular reality warper and opponent for Bill.
• There will be 2 and a half cameos in this battle:
  • Asriel Dreemurr vs. Discord
  • Speedrunner Mario VS SMG4 Mario
  • And Stan Lee (thanks for the random idea Eevee)
• This battle was originally created by Omniversia999
  • Permission to adopt was granted.