Description[]
Persona 5 VS Undertale!, When two of the greatest PlayStation characters from really Popular and Lovable Games with a Great Sense of Determination and Rebellion within themselves being associated with Hearts, Souls and Phantoms being two of the strongest Game protagonists, having even met two Manipulative Bastards who ended resulting to be Gods having the Power and Will to defeat Them, having bonds with many friends and having many enemies and having their lifes practically screwed by some moments into their games... Who would win?
Introduction[]
Boomstick: Akira Kurusu or also known as Joker, the Masked Man "Criminal" student of Shujin, Leader of the Phantom Thieves and user of Personas!
Wiz: And Frisk, the Determined protector of the Underground!
Boomstick: There is some Silent Protagonists in Video Games who are known for being Powerful and all!
Wiz: But not much of them are as powerful as these two Heroic Silent Characters with great Sense of doing the things right, having bonds with many friends and having many enemies through their journeys, being associated with hearts, souls, phantoms and being put against the Manipulative Bastards who would become Multiversal Gods who they end outlasting with their Power!
Boomstick: He's Wiz and I am Boomstick!
Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armors and skills to find out who'd win in a DEATH BATTLE!
Akira Kurusu Steals the Show in DEATH BATTLE![]
Boomstick: Joker... The protagonist of Persona 5, leader of the Phantom Thieves!
Wiz: Akira Kurusu or Ren Amamiya was just a Normal School Teenager of Japan streets being 16 years old.
Boomstick: He did pretty normal things for a Teen. Well, that until his worst issue happens up to his life...
Wiz: So, Akira came across the corrupt political figure, Masayoshi Shido, who was very drunk harassing a Woman. Akira tried to drag Shido away to defend that Innocent Woman in act of heroism, causing Shido to hurt himself.
Boomstick: But that piece of shit Shido being a corrupted politican immediately threatens our protagonist, blaming him, forcing the woman to even testify against him! That feels sad...
Wiz: Yeah, then Akira got arrested unfairly... That's sad as it was a crime he didn't even do. It WAS Shido the one who started the bullshit harassing the woman!
Boomstick: And some time after, Akira Kurusu gets expelled from his Own school, being sent to live with one of his family's associates known as Sojiro Sakura at Coffee Le Blanc. At first this seems like a great idea, but if Akira did any trouble he would be kicked out off here. That sucks!
Wiz: Passing out one night, Akira awoke within a strange room. This was the Velvet Room, an area that was only visible to those that high sensivity. This was the Place that housed an important guy by the name of Igor.
Boomstick: Igor wants Akira to "redeem" himself. I Doubt about it since Akira did nothing wrong, and it wasn't really the real Igor, basically he wants Akira to "redeem" himself completely!
Wiz: Akira would had gotten a new high school. The Shiujin Academy! He would had met several allies such as Ryuji Sakamoto who is another school dude with "criminal" incidents, Ann Takamaki, Morgana (Who is basically what seems a Cat but Morgana himself always says he isn't and that the Cognitive World altered his physical form what he assumes to be a human one but he lost the memories of his past), Etc, traveling in some App he has in his phone across the real world to the cognitive world in the Metaverse where he can use his powers and all,visiting Palaces, and he then becomes the leader of the Phantom Thieves, a group of teens who are thieves!
Boomstick: Yeah, and then his codename is known as what we know as Joker!
Wiz: They don't do bad things, they just steal corrupted hearts getting morally wrong individuals to change their minds on their actions!
Boomstick: And first to become the leader, Joker had to awoken something which is called Persona, The Personas are drawn from the soul of an user, but the difference is normal people can indeed see the Personas, even if they don't have one Persona by themselves.
Wiz: And When he met Ryuji, who begins ranting about a particular gym teacher who works at Shujin known as Kamoshida that's how he went to the cognitive world first time with the Meta-nav the self installing supernatural App sends Joker to the cognitive world. This world is really strange like if you have a fake gun here, and it doesn't shoot, if your fighting someone who thinks the gun will shoot. It in fact will shoot!
Boomstick: The Phantom Thieves seeks to reform society as a whole, , though this eventually pits them against the embodiment of the masses' wishes itself!
- BIO
- Name: Ren Amamiya, Akira Kurusu, Joker, The Trickster
- Origin: Persona 5
- Gender: Male
- Age: Likely 16 or 17 | 18 in Persona 5 Strikers
- Classification: Human, Persona user, Wildcard user
Wiz: Alright let's first speak about all the Personas Joker does have. First, Arsene. Arsene was the first persona Joker ever had. Arsene powers Joker's attacks with Guns (Yes he has Guns he has buyed with Ryuji before), also gives him healing, Flight, manipulates elements, and can reduce the damage of Akira. Personas can cast powerful spells, or attack with devastating physical blows. Ren has an ability called the Wild Card, which allows him to use many different Personas. Joker also has guns as already stated, a knive, and a Grappling Hook gun.
Boomstick: By using Guard, he can block and retaliate using a stronger attack!
Wiz: Also, About attacks. With the All Out Attack, this is the strongest move of Joker. He teams up with all the phantom thieves to do one massive attack!
Boomstick: Also, for power. He fought Kaneshiro who had a Palace with the size of Shibuya said city being at a size of 15,11 km square kilometers, made by only thinking, and he is superior to Futaba who made a palace which contained a Entire Goddamn Sun! He also fought with the shadow of Haru's father even beating him, and in his palace, there was found Countless Stars! But his craziest feat is with Zatannael, who basically is Joker's strongest Persona. Zatannael with Sinfull Shell a Bullet powered by the Deadly Sins which literally can oneshot Gods who keeps the universe's fate safe, such as Yaldabaoth, who is a God who can literally merge the reality alongside the Metaverse together, this making Joker fucking Low Multiversal!
Wiz: Also the official guide books of PS5 references the Metaverse as one with the universe and is seen as a universe, so yeah Zatannael oneshotted a God who merged two damn universes! However Joker can even be above this as he defeated Maruki, who is above Yaldabaoth And Maruki has the power to change All of reality to end all suffering and he even controls the very fabric of the universe!
Boomstick: While the Personas makes Joker very powerful, they has one weakness. Arsene is weak to ice and electricity. But at least Zatannael has none! Zatannael also absorbs stat nullifying via being immune to some curses! And Joker has many weapons, like Guns, and Knives!
Wiz: Joker is also a martial artist and a genius at fighting, Also Joker can dodge natural lightning, and he is comparable to Ryuji Sakamoto who uses this type of attacks frequently, making him Massively Hypersonic, Joker also could resist the Power of Yaldabaoth to erase the existence!
Boomstick: He also has the Third Eye which can predict the movements of the opponents! And he has the Cosmic Flare and Morning Star. The later involved the attack reaching Earth from a Random Star in a Matter of Seconds. To do this, with the star and the space, we can be sure it's about one galaxy, taking reference about the Milky Way measuring around 100.000 light years, and it went around 7 seconds, so we could say the Star travels around 486'514'285'714'285'660.000/km per hour, thus making Joker Frigging 450 Billionth Times MFTL+! Also Observable Universe is stated to be 130 billion ly in interviews Biting shouldn’t take long at all, 1-2 seconds sounds fair Thus our results are 2.04984-4.09968 quintillion c. Joker has a Arcana Tower Giant Hindu Monster Persona who can swallow the ENTIRE Universe! Plus making Joker even QUINTILLIONS FASTER THAN LIGHT!
Wiz: But Joker has his weaknesses...
Boomstick: Yeah, while he maybe capable of using his 'Third Eye' to predict an Enemy's Movements he can barely see them and on top of that, using any sort of magic power with his Personas, but Personas can inmensily drain his mental and spiritual energy, making Akira slower and weaker! Plus he lacks experience in a battle without his Personas and he's still a Teen Plus Joker cannot use his power outside the Metaverse!
Wiz: But he's considered one of the Best Persona users, so let's don't mess with the Leader of the Phantom Thieves, after all he has Personas to oneshot Literal Gods who keeps the Universe as it is!
PERSONA!
Frisk Spares DEATH BATTLE![]
(Cue: It's Raining Somewhere Else)
Boomstick: Long time ago... There was a War between Monsters and Humans!
Wiz: And said war was because the humans and monsters used to life peacefully until the humans realized if a monster would get the soul of a human... The Monster would become some Unstoppable God!
Boomstick: And since the War has happened when Humans declared it to the Monsters, it resulted in hundreds of their species dying and after a while the Monsters lost since their souls were weaker than just one human soul!
Wiz: So the Humans did a Magic Barrier to trap the Monsters inside the Underground forever, trapping the monsters there. However they did a civilization and pretty much kept their lives inside there!
Boomstick: But hundreds of years later, one psychopath would fall and around the peace... And said pyschopath is one of the most evil Game characters ever and her name is Chara!
Wiz: Chara was adopted by the King and Queen of the Underground... Asgore and Toriel Dremurr, having Asriel as her brother. However, Chara did some pretty evil plan poisoning herself, dying and Asriel devastated Sucked her soul through the barrier and he let Chara's body in Golden Flowers from a Nearby town.
Boomstick: The Humans however thought Asriel ruthlessly has killed Chara, so they attack Asriel!
Wiz: While Asriel had the power to wipe them down, he didn't want to harm anyone so he ended killed and before he dies he returns to the Castle of his Parents with Chara's body while Chara's body disappears.
Boomstick: And Toriel sad blames Asgore for what happened and breaks the relationship with him, and Asgore in sadness feeling blame and guilt from what happening to his sons decides to kill Six Humans collecting their Souls and those humans fell to the underground too when Asgore did that so he would get a seventh one to destroy the Barrier and finish humanity!
Wiz: And after these moments, we find out the latest fallen human who would fall there. And the name of said boy is Frisk!
Boomstick: And if you say "But Frisk's Gender is Unknown!" Well Toby said the gender of Frisk and Chara is an up decision from the player, and we consider Frisk a male and Chara a girl so...
Wiz: Depending the routes you choose, Frisk can act pacifistic, a straight up killer, or the neutral between these two chooses... In the Genocide Route he literally gets controlled by The Player to end killing all the monsters until he fights Sans, who tries to stop you from murdering everyone and make you reset to do things right judging you from your sins, but after a lot of deaths you end beating Sans and then Flowey kills Asgore only to end killed by Chara who gets unleashed by the Player's LOVE and Stats and ends destroying the Timeline no matter our choice and we can't do anything except convince her to redo the world by giving her your soul!
Boomstick: Neutral Route is where you either kill or spare any monster you find in the journey, only for Flowey (Who is Asriel but as a Flower pilled with the dust of Asriel's body injected with Determination as a considered Emotionless, Psychopath, Ruthless, Cruel and Evil Flower who is aware of the Resets, can Reset as well and is obsessed with killing you and become God). To end killing Asgore no matter your choice if kill or spare him and absorbs the Six Souls and becomes a Godlike Worst Nightmare called Omega or Photoshop Flowey who rewrites and has control of the Game itself and kills Frisk a lot of times until The Souls rebel against Flowey and let you beat him!
Wiz: And the Pacifist Route is where you spare and make bonds becoming friend of every monster in the game, which gets Flowey pissed up as the rules for him are it is kill or be killed making Flowey get every monster to become back into Asriel but with that power... He becomes a literal Multiversal God of Hyperdeath!
Boomstick: But with enough Determination, Frisk could handle Asriel down making him remember his memories back, freeling the monsters and destroying the Barrier becoming Asriel back into who he was making everyone be freeled off the Underground getting into the real world in a happy ending... Well unless you do a Geno route before then Chara would possess you and likely kill all of the monsters for vengeance and likely kill humanity too!
- BIO:
- Name: Frisk
- Age: Likely in his teens
- Origin: Undertale
- Gender: Non-Binary (Considered as Male in this fight)
- Classification: Human
Wiz: Well for his abilities, Frisk has a physique beyond a regular human when is increased with his Determination being able to kill Monsters with strikes of his Knive but he's weaker without his Dt!
Boomstick: And Frisk is REALLY fast, man Frisk can move faster than Lightning, Dodges Spears from Undyne, he even has Dodged Gaster Blaster Beams from Sans and if that's not anything he can attack Napstablook and dodge his attacks who can react sunlight closing courtains before it would reach the target, and Frisk has even DODGED FRIGGIN Lasers from Hotland making Frisk Faster Than Light!
Wiz: Frisk can increase his speed while drinking the Sea Tea, and Frisk has Low Godly Regeneration given Attacks in Undertale can destroy the Soul, and Frisk can come back from dying with his soul destroyed!
Boomstick: Frisk can SAVE and LOAD files and overwrite them and said SAVEs are ENTIRE TIMELINES, which Frisk can manipulate to his will, making Frisk very difficult to defeat, and when Frisk entered the Underground, Flowey's ability to SAVE in his normal form ended lost meaning it's exclusive to whoever has the highest Determination in Undertale!
Wiz: With SAVE and LOAD Frisk can also manipulate and travel back in time, and he can RESET to come back from death itself! and Frisk survived the destruction of the timeline when Chara and Asriel ended destroying it with the Knive 9999 Slash and the Hypergoner!
Boomstick: Frisk can make his dreams literally come true with enough Determination and he can refuse to die with Enough Determination even when dying Endless times against Asriel!
Wiz: Frisk has also a lot of items such as a Stick and Bandage, a Toy Knive and Faded Ribbon, Tough Glove and Manly Bandanna, Ballet Shoes and Cloudly Glasses, Sea Tea, Burnt Pan and Stained Apron, Empty Gun and Cowboy Hat, Worn Dagger and Heart Locker, and several Food items that can heal him from beatings!
Boomstick: And now for his strongest Power... His DETERMINATION!!!
Wiz: Determination in Undertale allows SOULs persist after death, such a power normally possesed by Humans, and even Monsters would melt by acquiring High DT levels, such as what happened to Undyne!
Boomstick: In Undertale it is more than an aspect of someone's personality strenghtening the soul and making others become more determined and stronger with every death and beings with the highest DT can SAVE but SOULless beings can also have the power. Example: Flowey!
Wiz: With Sufficient Determination, Frisk can battle Asgore who is the King of the Monsters and one of the strongest Monsters of the game, and Determination also boosts Frisk in general, allowing them to keep up with faster beings (Such as Omega Flowey, who can fight at Immeasurable speeds, Asgore, who is easily amongst the strongest of the monsters, and others like being able to outrun lightning)!
Boomstick: But Frisk's Insanest Determination Levels having Immense Determination can flat out refuse to die, even against Gods like Asriel, allows Frisk to harm enemies he wouldn't normally harm Increasing his power immensely even if the damage is slighty done such as Omega Flowey and Hope can increase the user's defense drastically, while Dream literally makes Frisk's dreams come true and with this Power Frisk is Unaffected by the Timeline being Devoured and Can move at IMMEASURABLE SPEEDS!
Wiz: Frisk has several feats, he has fought numerous monsters, beating all of them either sparing or murdering them, has kept with monsters like Undyne, Papyrus, Asgore, Toriel, etc. At Neutral Route Ending, his DT becamed powerful enough he would damage Godlike Beings such as Omega Flowey who rewrote the Game's story, and can destroy files and Create and Destroys Timelines, but he needed the help of the six souls to defeat him, can go through Hotland which is a place that could vaporize stryofoam cups instantly, without any signs of fatigue, Frisk could solve puzzles and very accurately read the emotions of monsters that they just met, can defeat powerful enemies simply by talking to them, and he defeated Asgore, Undyne and Omega Flowey without killing them!
Boomstick: Frisk's Level varies through his DT and LOVE (Level of Violence), with Low Determination he survived a blast of Undyne's Oven so he should be Wall Level but when having High Determination he defeated Asgore who is one of the strongest Monsters having 80 ATK Including Undyne who can suplex literal boulders and is superior to Knight Night who can do a Mini Star done of Plasma doing Frisk building level!
Wiz: The minimum the Underground population has is 12'000 monsters as minimum, across 5 different areas: Ruins Snowdin Waterfall Hotland CORE And Thus every area has at least 2'400 monsters and Monsters have different levels of power in Undertale and the full power of Frisk's SOUL rivals the entirety of the Underground making Frisk Town Level!
Boomstick: But with sufficient and immense DT levels, he can Slighty Harm Flowey in his Omega Form, Flowey seems has great control over the Universe, he destroyed Frisk save file with ease, his mere transforming did what seems to be the destruction of the Universe and the creation of his own pocket dimension, his power is a god's power compared to any other opponent Frisk encountered before him, Photoshop Flowey even when he loses the control over his power he is still able to one-shot-Frisk, Photoshop Flowey strength should be much higher than the strength he get via gather EXP It is possible that Photoshop Flowey recreated the entire multiverse due to the fact that he says that his pocket dimension is all what left and that the title of the game screen changes to Floweytale or to nothing indicating that it affected all the verse and while not harming Asriel, his DT was able to avoid Asriel do the TRUE RESET, and Asriel is claimed to destroy the Undertale world with a TRUE RESET, In his True form he made the World slowly end, casually purged the Timeline with the Hypergoner and Asriel has Infinite ATK being the strongest Monster in the Game and Undertale has Countless Timelines which are different universes by the RESETs of the player and they can get into infinite via Fun Values with every time you play the Game making it change slighty making Frisk be Multiverse+ Level and Frisk also possibly survived Chara's Multi+ Slashing attack which destroyed the Whole Undertale timeline in seconds and in Speed Frisk dodged and Outran Asriel's Hypergoner which purged an entire timeline and Asriel has superior Stats than Chara who Oneshotted the Infinite Multiverses in a few seconds doing Frisk MFTL+ To Immeasurable!
Wiz: But Frisk is Powerless without Determination, was possesed by Chara when their capacity grew to the max power, While extremely difficult, sufficient failure can make a user of Determination give up, though this can result in a Reset much earlier than the last SAVE. Someone with equal and higher amounts of Determination (as it exists in Undertale) will result in their ability to SAVE and LOAD being disabled. But we don't need to mess with the Determined Fallen Human!
Intermission[]
Wiz: Alright, the combatants are set it's time to set this debate once and for all!
Boomstick: It's time for some DEATH BATTLE! with A LOT of Determination and Rebellion to encompass it!
DEATH BATTLE![]
We see notices in Tokyo about some Genocidal Kid with a Knive able to kill literal Monsters with Godlike power with his name being Frisk. The people hear this rumors about Frisk being greatly scared wondering if the Phantom Thiefs would take down this guy, since otherwise they would be doomed with Frisk ruthlessly killing all of them badly. One friday after school at night we see how one schooler with some glasses and a Cat in his bag would come back to some coffe shop called Le Blanc, and it's name is Akira Kurusu, hearing the notices in TV about this Determined Human.
Sojiro: Hey, Akira.... How was your day? It must been a hard day for you in school... Eh, at least your close to get vacations now.
Akira then gets messages of the Phantom Thiefs all of them being worried about Frisk wondering if this guy could beat the strongest enemies they beated, but Akira tells them he'll take care of him alone tomorrow, everyone was scared but they say Akira would solve it tomorrow.
Akira Kurusu: It felt like a hard day....
Sojiro: So, this Frisk is a literal Godslayer Genocidal Human? Well, Akira don't try to get among him. One trouble dragging him with you if he has some way to come here, and your outside this place. Got it?
Akira Kurusu: So what do you think, Morgana? Is this Human so dangerous to take down... I will start a Show tomorrow and show everyone he's just nothing compared to us!
Morgana: I say it will be epic! We have a new foe to take down tomorrow, but you should go to sleep to do it!
Akira Kurusu: Got it...
Joker does what Mona is saying, and he then decides to go to the bed. Then the day passes and it's finally tomorrow. Joker awokens and he comes right to the Train station and he goes to the Mount Ebott. Joker then says.
Akira Kurusu: I heard this guy apparently is right now trapped in this mountain... That's odd but we'll need to find out!
Akira says while running and instantly reaching it's peak while Joker sees the abism and uses his Third Eye to find something here...
Akira Kurusu: Focus...
Joker finds out Monsters and that Human living there while Joker then does a grin of confidence saying.
Akira Kurusu: It's Show Time!
Akira then does an acrobatic jump with style while falling down to the Golden Flowers floor landing with grace. Joker then gets confused while Morgana says.
Morgana: There is nobody in! This is like going through a Palace but we don't find anyone!
Akira Kurusu: True, this must be a hard job...
Akira says while running and passing the Undertale Zones discovering a lot of Death corpses of monsters and Dust. Disgusted Joker says.
Akira Kurusu: Goddamn, the rumors of this guy maybe true! I must be prepared to fight him!
Joker says while finally getting into The Last Corridor and we see Joker gets into the fight with Sans with one Human with a Knive and a Purple shirt fighting him. It was Frisk!
Sans: Alright... This was my last warning... But now you messed things up again! YOUR GONNA HAVE A BADTIME-!!!
Before Sans would end saying what he says, Frisk goes quicker this time hitting Sans off guard shocking him while Joker sees this shocked.
Sans: Damn... Damn it! I can't believe it, what happened?!
Sans says sad, simply unamused and really dissapointed, this never happened in ANY other Timeline he could remember... Sans then said.
Sans: Well... At least that Badtime I were gonna give you ended ImPALED in this countdown! Hahahahahahaha....
Sans says while dying and fading away turned in dust. Now Joker angry yells the name of the Fallen Human.
Akira Kurusu: FRISK!!!
Frisk flips to see the one calling him, confused. The Fallen Human never has seen some scenario in an alternate timeline like this while Joker aims Frisk with a Gun.
Akira Kurusu: Your crimes are far too numerous to count... And now I, The Leader of the Phantom Thiefs will not only destroy your Heart... I'LL DESTROY IT!!!
Joker says with a Voice of High Determination. Frisk looks sad upon Joker's Words, he didn't want to kill Sans or any of those he killed but some higher up presence were forcing him to do so. And it was Chara, the murderer of the Genocide Route!
Chara: You better be ready against this guy, partner! He seems pretty deadly and strong to take you down!
Chara's essence tells to Frisk who is the one could hear her and she manipulates Frisk changing his expression to a fighting, agressive and determined one aiming his Knive to Joker. Now the battle was set on!
FIGHT!!!
(Cue: Last Surprise x Megalovania)
Joker would start shooting several Bullet shots to Frisk who would dodge the attacks while running even slashing some of the Bullets. Frisk then jumps and tries to slash Joker who makes a backflip jump to the air and takes out a lot of Knifes he throws quickly into the Air while falling to the ground with grace doing the Spider-Man pose. However, Frisk wouldn't give up there blocking the knife swings with his knife sending the knifes flying everywhere. Joker realized this and he decides to run throwing a lot of fast punches to Frisk until kicking him at the air and using his Grappling Hook trapping Frisk and doing an aerial kick that knocks Frisk down. Frisk gets up hurt while Morgana says.
Morgana: Lookin' Cool, Joker!
Joker grins cockily and Joker then says.
Joker: This fight is what I am talking about!
Joker then sees Frisk get up back so Joker pulls his Knive back and he runs now with a serious face and he throws a lot of slashes to Frisk who dodges them until he used his knive to block the Slashes, and they would start a duel of weapons, until Joker outsmarts and outmaneuvers Frisk sliding under his legs and now in his back he would grab some pillar and spin across it with his knive slashing Frisk a lot tooking off small marks and blood off the human and Joker then would jump while saying.
Joker: Quiet!
Joker would shoot Frisk a shot of his Gun, making Frisk end dying while we see the animation of his heart shattering. Joker then adjusts his Gloves while saying.
Joker: Ha, guess I literally destroyed his heart!
Joker says with a smile, but Frisk then is seen in the dark void crying not wanting to continue and wanting to do it only to spare Joker and try to fix his mistakes but Chara grabs Frisk's hand with a terrifying smile.
Chara: SINCE WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE IN CONTROL?!
Chara makes Frisk continue while Frisk grabs a Star and SAVEs and LOADs the File, Joker sees this in shock while saying.
Joker: Goddamn it! How did you survive that?!
Frisk however doesn't reply and ignores Joker and both look each other seriously, Joker then says.
Joker: Show Me Your True Form! Because I am going to show you My Power.... PERSONA, ARSENE!!!
Joker takes off his Mask with a face of determination and seriousness while flames appear behind him and Arsene appears while Joker then yells.
Joker: RAVAGE HIM!!!
Arsene then flies at Frisk wanting to scratch him with his Claws, Frisk however jumps off Arsene and tries to slash Joker with his knive again with Joker dodging all the attacks with agility while Joker jumps up Frisk's head like he does against Shadows, breaking Frisk's neck and he then yells.
Joker: EIHA!!!
Joker makes a Blast with the attack burning Frisk down to ashes. However Frisk continues back more determined now and Joker says.
Joker: I expected you to come back, but you never saw that coming... My mind is too fast for eyes! And for the Phantom Thiefs and all those who want you death! I'LL WIN!!!
Joker says determined and kicking Frisk away. Frisk however then gets the Tough Gloves and runs punching Joker in the face, tooking blood off his nose. Joker cleans the blood off his nose as Frisk would try to launch another hit but Joker says.
Joker: Too slow!
Joker says as he jumps to dodge it shoting a Bullet Storm forcing Frisk to dodge the attacks but Arsene flies to Frisk scratching him, Frisk however comes back to attack now punching Joker with several attacks of his fist, punching Joker in the head against a pillar.
Joker (Coughs blood): Agh... Not in the head!
Joker says while rolling away off Frisk but Frisk now puts his Ballet Shoes spinning while kicking Joker into the chin knocking him down. Joker gets up slowly while Frisk tries kick Joker again but Joker would do a Backflip dodging and as Frisk readies another kick Joker blocks it with his arm and Joker then would throw a more strong kick knocks Frisk down. Frisk would get up now angry and wielding a Burnt Pan.
Joker: Alright!
Frisk tries to strike Joker with the Burnt Pan but Joker dodges every attack and uses his Gun to block the Pan and then he kicks Frisk's Arm sending the Pan away as Joker then gets his Knive and slashes Frisk several times and Arsene scratches Frisk again and Joker then shots a Bullet Storm that knocks Frisk down bleeding and killing him again. Joker sighs expecting Frisk to respawn as he did and Joker then says.
Joker: How could I beat him? I'll give that a try... Let me see!
Frisk pulls off a Gun while Joker sees it and he then runs away in circles sneaking around while Frisk shoots a lot of bullets to Joker who comes back kicking Frisk in the head down. Frisk gets up and tries to punch Joker who grabs the hit and punches Frisk with his own punch. Frisk then tooks off the Heart Locket and Worn Dagger and he tries to slash Joker with his Dagger but Joker uses his Knife to counter but each slash Frisk was more determined and strong now becoming fast enough to throw many slashes to Joker tooking blood off him and forcing Joker to jump away.
Joker: Oof... Each death makes this guy stronger, how do I stop him?!
Frisk runs at all speeds now throwing a powerful Slash that does a Blast and smoke massively in the Last Corridor knocking Joker down. Joker slowly gets up coughing while Frisk sees this. Frisk was now DETERMINED to defeat Joker and finish this channeling DETERMINATION in that Dagger attack.
Joker (In his mind): I know now! I need to be quick and take him off combat getting off with whatever that Respawn Action is, and kill him before he gets more determined!
Joker says while Frisk gets his Gun and shoots Joker shots of it but Joker yells.
Joker: MAKARAKARN!!!
Joker redirects the Bullets and all of them strike Frisk making him bleed and die. Frisk revives but Joker puts his mask back doing Arsene dissappear.
Joker: Okay... I'll show you my true power... PERSONA, SATANAEL!!!
Joker yells summoning the Building Sized Persona destroying half of the Last Corridor. Frisk would see Satanael shocked. Frisk then however gets control rid off Chara crying, he knew all he were doing is wrong, but Chara would take control back soon as Frisk tries to ask for mercy but Joker says.
Joker: A Demon taught me that even the most Puny Gods should be Punished... And that's what will happen to you... Now The Show is Over and you'll go to sleep! BEGONE! SATANAEL, SINFUL SHELL!!!
Satanael takes off a Giant Rifle while shooting a Giant Bullet with the power of the Deadly Sins. The bullet hits through Frisk's chest, tooking off a lot of blood destroying his Heart, and shockingly making Frisk give up destroying the whole Options to Reset.
K.O!
Joker sighs, while he seems depressed and Morgana said.
Morgana: Well that were GREATLY epic, Joker! Wait... Are you okay?
Joker were reflexing what he did, maybe Frisk wasn't a bad person at all, he seemed pretty depressed and sad about his acts and all he did like he was completely reedemed, Joker thought a more malevolent force were controlling him and Frisk had more right to be alive and maybe Frisk were innocent and if that didn't happen they could been friends,
Joker: Yeah... It's just that at the end of the line that guy seemed innocent, and Judging his face when I summoned Satanael he seemed to regret of what he did...
Morgana: Your right but it was a live or death situation and hopefully you won!
Joker: Yeah...
Joker and Morgana somehow escape the Underground coming back to Japan as Joker gets back into Le Blanc.
Sojiro: Oh, hey Akira.... What's up? You don't seem pretty okay what happened? Want some coffe?
Akira Kurusu: I am okay, Sojiro... I just don't feel so good today you know and yes, I'd want one now thanks!
Sojiro gives Joker his coffe while sighing and saying.
Sojiro: Life for him must be hard right now...
Akira goes right to his room, Morgana was inside Joker's bag and he says.
Morgana: You did a great job, Joker!
Joker however stills silent, he knew he had the blame for killing that guy even if he wasn't good, but he knew it was over, then Joker tells his friends what he did and all were happy Joker did it proud of his feat.
Results[]
Boomstick: This fight was so amazing!
Wiz: This fight was a pretty close debate... Either of them had the chance to take each other down!
Boomstick: But in most of the scenarios the Masked Man managed to beat the Silent Determined Human!
Wiz: Yeah, Frisk's best Feats come from his Immense Determination and not himself. Besides he slighty harmed Omega Flowey needing the Souls to take him down and he did survive Asriel's attacks not harm him and Asriel got defeated once he got his memories back!
Boomstick: Meanwhile, Joker does scale his stuff with Satanael he oneshotted Yaldabaoth with a Giant Bullet with Deadly Sins power designed to literally kill Gods! And later on, he takes down Adam Kadmon someone stronger than Yaldabaoth without Satanael!
Wiz: True, Frisk survived attacks of Asriel someone who can destroy all the timeline in Undertale which contains endless to infinite timelines so Frisk were FAR more durable than Joker and harder to take down especially with his respawning RESET options and SAVE and LOAD and his DETERMINATION doing him around this powerful!
Boomstick: But Frisk is Town level physically as his Soul outlasts the entirety of the Underground at sufficient DT levels, while Joker beats down Yaldabaoth and Maruki. Yaldabaoth merged the universe with Mementos and Palaces are universe sized, like Okumura's palace based on the Big Bang with Planets, Stars even Galaxies and his defeat destroyed the Metaverse and Yaldabaoth admitted Satanael outlasted him and Maruki is stronger than Yaldabaoth, were gonna merge the Persona 5 universe with the Metaverse again and rewrote story to erase all suffering and make everyone happy being Low Multiverse Level being A LOT superior in comparation!
Wiz: And for speeds, Joker were faster than a not fully Determined Frisk, Frisk can dodge lasers in Hotland, react Napstablook who can block sunlight before it reaches his target points being FTL, but Joker has a Persona stated to devour the universe calcled Quintillions MFTL+ and has MFTL+ attacks like Lucifer Morningstar! But once Frisk is fully Determined, Frisk can dodge a Timeline Purging attack being MFTL+ to Immeasurable to speedblitz Joker!
Boomstick: But speed isn't all to win here!
Wiz: True, Joker is more experienced, smarter being really smart like Frisk might solve puzzles, read expressions of the monsters he mets and is skilled with his powers and has knowledge of his Space time powers with RESET, SAVE, LOAD, etc, but Joker is a great student, skilled in infiltration, has good leadership skills, is good doing strategies to take down his foes, faked his Death in hands of Akechi a Super Detective being similar in smarts to Joker and he is very resourceful and smart much more than Frisk, and Joker is 16-17 yeared old while Frisk is likely starting his teens, and Joker has dealt DEADLIER foes and literal GODS which he himself has taken down, while Frisk needed help to take down Omega Flowey who wasn't even a Entire God and he didn't even harm Asriel while Akira oneshotted Yaldabaoth! And Joker's Personas managed to outnumber Frisk too, and he has a lot of abilities can match against Frisk and his respawn that Frisk can't avoid from Yaldabaoth erasing Joker off existence only for him to come back from Velvet Room a place outside space time proclaiming his existence coming back to fight and Joker would outhax and keep beating Frisk until he gives up especially when at some point his Determination would be useless if the fighter is more determined stopping Frisk from respawing and Joker is highly determined as well... I guess rebellion were over determination in this one!
Boomstick: I guess Frisk got his Last Surprise and this Time Joker didn't steal but destroy his Heart!
Wiz: The winner... Is Joker!
Trivia[]
- The connections between Akira Kurusu VS Frisk are:
- Both of them are two incredibly popular PS4 characters from really well known video games being the main protagonists of their games (Persona 5 and Undertale) with both of them being incredibly silent and ending into a journey through their adventures ending in surreal worlds in an entire accident (Frisk accidentally falling into the Underground and Akira Kurusu ended accidentally having the Metaverse App to end traveling to the Metaverse) and in said worlds both ended having really powerful powers granted towards them (Joker getting the Power of the Wildcard and Frisk getting the Power to RESET, SAVE, LOAD, etc). They also met some Manipulative bastards into their Games who at the end have the Power of literal Multiversal Gods (Igor and Flowey. Igor trapping Joker into the Velvet Room not letting him leave until he ends up reedeming completely and making Joker help him to beat Yaldabaoth and Flowey acting nice and innocent to Frisk at the first part we met him but both would reveal their true selfs as the game goes on becoming into literal Gods with Flowey trying to kill Frisk the entire time, being a psychopath, ruthless, cruel, and evil monster who calls himself emotionless wanting to get the Six Souls to become Powerful and end rewritting the Game's Plot and Igor ends up revealing himself as a fake version of the real one becoming into the Holy Grail the God of Control having dominance over the Collective Unconcious and controlling the Masses wanting to kill the Phantom Thiefs to the point he erased them off existence and merged the Metaverse with the Real Universe and the Pacifist Route where Flowey becomes back into Asriel and becomes into a God of Hyperdeath). However both would end up getting enough power to end up defeating these Gods (Joker with his Ultimate Persona Satanael ends up defeating Yaldabaoth and Frisk with the Power of the Six Human Souls ends up beating Flowey and he also ends up beating Asriel with Enough Determination and making Asriel get his memories back). Unironically while Frisk didn't get into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Joker did and Sans got into Smash as a Mii outfit. Both also have relations with Souls and Phantoms (Undertale's Relation with the Souls having the Six Human Souls, the attacks in Undertale being spiritual destroying the Soul and even the Game making the player become a Soul when fighting and Joker being the leader of the Phantom Thiefs). Both also uses Knives while battling their foes, and through their journey they end gaining several friends and enemies. Also they end having bad reputation in their games and such bad reputation practically ruined their lifes (Akira being thought to be a criminal being framed unfairly by Shido getting in Jail and when he got freed he practically ended living alone in Leblanc with only Sojiro to take care of him without his parents even batting an eye on Joker, and when he gets to his New School he becamed the Pariah with everyone saying rumors he's a criminal not even giving Joker a chance, and Frisk at the Genocide Route getting manipulated to end up killing all of his friends ruthlessly getting more Level of Violence and Power being practically the only survivor of his world summoning Chara to end destroying the timeline with his power). Both have relations with hearts too (Undertale's souls seen as hearts and Phantom Thiefs "stoling" corrupts' hearts). Yet both have a strong sense of justice or are really pacifistic.
- The animation should be in sprites
- The Sound track should be "The Determination of a Trickster".
Introduction[]
Wiz: Akira Kurusu, the Phantom Thief of Heart.
Boomstick: And Frisk, the determined child of Undertale.
Wiz: Given enough power, anyone could beat anyone. Kids could even beat gods.
Boomstick: And these two "steal the show" there. He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick!
Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills, to find out who would win a DEATH BATTLE.
Joker Steals DEATH BATTLE's Heart[]
Wiz: Akira Kurusu, or Ren Amamiya, was down on his luck. He was sent to jail for assault he didn't do, causing his family to give him up. Stuck on parole, he was sent to live with Sojiro, the owner of a small shop in Yogen-Jawa, and he had to go to a school where everyone was aware of his criminal record.
Boomstick: Even worse, his PE teacher was a dick! Working the sports teams to the bone and abusing them, as well as having... intimate relations with some of the school girls. Full grown man here, guys.
Wiz: Fortunately, his luck did turn around eventually, as he was chosen to become a special chosen one. You see, two gods were having an argument on whether humanity should be enslaved or not. So, they made a bet. They would give Ren a special app and the power of The Trickster, which granted him the ability to tap into something called the "Metaverse", where he could defeat shadow versions of people and make them regret all the bad things they've done.
Boomstick: Ah shit, does that mean I'm gonna have to repent for those beers I stole?
Wiz: Well, yes, along with any murder, cheating, abusing, manipulating, or anything else bad that you've done. With his new powers, Ren adapted quickly, built bonds, and soon became Joker, leader of the Phantom Thieves of Heart.
Boomstick: So, of course, he beat the shit out of that dick PE teacher! Take that, dickwad!
Wiz: As he defeated strong opponents, his bonds with his friends deepened, and he gained new friends.
Boomstick: Now, because of how open you are to choose your playstyle in Persona 5, we're going with everything he can have. All Personas, items, yada yada.
Wiz: That's right, Boomstick. But it's important to start with his standard arsenal. He owns a variety of knives and handguns, which he uses accordingly. Any weapon that appears more frightening is more powerful in the Metaverse, the strongest of which being his Paradise Lost R knife and Tyrant Piston R, with them reducing damage taken from curse attacks and increasing his magic power respectively, on top of having extremely high strength and accuracy as well.
Boomstick: And is best armor is Tantric Oath R, which increases defence against magic more than normal. But that's not even beginning to touch on his abilities.
Wiz: He has a variety of spells, including fire, ice, electric, wind, psychic, nuclear, curse, holy, almighty, status, healing, physical, gun, buffing, debuffing-
Boomstick: Breathe, Wiz. Breathe.
Wiz: *heavy breathing in and out for a few seconds* Thanks. These include stuff like minor psychokinesis, slight freezing and the like, all the way up to nuclear bomb levels of power, raining meteors, and the fist of god coming down on his opponents, not to mention the destruction of a universe in one attack.
Boomstick: And that's not to mention some of his other moves. He can buff all of his stats, lower all his opponents' stats, reset any stat changes, put you to sleep, confuse you, make you scared, make you wallow in despair and die, or just... kill you. With holy or hellish magic.
Wiz: But those skills come at a rather high cost: his SP and HP. Physical and gun spells cost health, while everything else costs SP, and if he doesn't have enough to cast a spell, he can't use it.
Boomstick: But fortunately for him, he has skills and items that can recover it. He can syphon it from foes with spirit or health drain, passively generate it with SP/HP adhesives, generate more if it's an ambush with the camera strap, and with one of his Confidant abilities, he just regains SP when he's low on it, allowing him to use healing spells if it's even necessary at that point.
Wiz: That's a good segway into Confidants. You see, when Ren forms a deal and relationship with someone, he gains their Confidant card, with those cards being based directly off of tarot cards from fortune telling. And as they rank up in relationship, the Confidant also levels up, gaining new abilities, such as the ability to sometimes reveal all of a enemy's resistances and strengths and whatnot, as well as get a lot of cheap medicine that heals him in battle, enter the flow state of mind sometimes, which powers up his next physical and special spell at the start of a battle, sometimes steal from a foe when he hits one, and more.
Boomstick: He can instantly kill enemies much weaker than him, knock enemies down instantly, like, 5 times per infiltration, and can even... get a maid to massage him. It's a lot more powerful than it sounds.
Wiz: And all of this is without mentioning his personas. You see, as the Trickster, a Wild Card of the universe, he can handle a number of personas at a time, when the normal maximum is one, with it evolving twice to become the most powerful. His first persona, the one he started with and the first thing he made an oath with, is Arsene, based off of Arsene Lupin, a fashion thief that brings criminals to justice.
Boomstick: But nobody gives a shit about him because he's pathetically weak. Instead, you can look towards all Joker's other shit, such as Shiki-Ouji, who is naturally immune to gunfire and physical attacks, Izanagi-no-Okami, who uses the most busted move in the world, Myriad Truths, and also resists basically everything. Then there's Messiah, who can let Joker come back to life with full HP and SP once per fight.
Wiz: But then, there's Satanael. To get him, Joker broke the chains of fate, freeing him from his fate entirely, and unlocking Satanael. He is easily Joker's strongest persona, having passives that make all his attacks stronger, physical or magical, with Tyrant's Mind, increase this strength even further, along with defence, evasion, and accuracy with Heat Riser, fully heal him after a battle passively with Victory Cry, and strengthen all magical skills a further 50% with Pagan Allure. That's not to mention it resists everything except bless and curse, with the former being blocked and the latter being absorbed and healed from. And his ultimate attack, Sinful Shell, infused with the power of the seven deadly sins, and focuses it into a bullet that can pierce straight through gods.
Boomstick: And if that's not enough for you, don't worry! He can get skill cards of basically any move to use on any persona to give them whatever he wants. For example, does a specific persona have a weakness he doesn't want exploited? Boom! Now he just fucking reflects it instead!
Wiz: This takes up move space, but can be useful for something like, say, Izanagi-no-Okami, who doesn't normally interact with holy or curse attacks, but now can just reflect it while setting up for super strong moves.
Boomstick: And we haven't even touched on actual feats.
Wiz: You know what? Video over, go home, I'm done.
*Death Battle sliding door animation*
Boomstick: Whu- Wiz! Come on, we agreed to do this battle!
Wiz: I can't take this anymore! Spongebob was kinda funny, Popeye was ridiculous, but this is just exhausting.
Boomstick: Calm down Wiz. We're almost through it.
Wiz: ...Okay, fine. Let's keep going.
*Death Battle door opening animation*
Wiz: Joker has achieved a lot of impressive things with these abilities. For example, he can dodge light beams, took hits from Cognitive Shido, who could fracture a steel yacht by punching it, and is stronger than Baal, who sat upon the Throne of Creation, which was usurped from Ra, the sun god, and gave him the power to shape the world however he liked.
Boomstick: And he had to get through a shit ton of gods to get it, because that throne was the hottest shit.
Wiz: He's saved the unsung voices of the world countless times by taking down evils, from that PE teacher, to a candidate for prime minister of Japan, to the god of order. On two separate occasions. With a severe power increase between the first and second god.
Boomstick: He can ignore fate (again, that whole breaking fate's chains thing), precognition, mind control, can dispell a number of status effects with spells, can sometimes dispell any status effect on himself with Detox EX, and has some insane charisma boner.
Wiz: During his journey, he can romance a total of 10 women, and it is canon he can romance all of them at once. The average amount of partners a guy gets in his lifetime is around 6-
Boomstick: Yep. I'm average. Time to get some more beer.
Wiz: ...Anyways, that means he got 4 more than that over the course of a single year. That is absurd.
Boomstick: And it does more than help him get in people's pants. Using it, he can break the passive mind control from the big evil guys we mentioned earlier. Like the fucking PE teacher.
Wiz: But of course, it'd be difficult to do all of this alone, hence why he works with a whole group of other Phantom Thieves, likely the most important to the team being Futaba Sakura, AKA Oracle.
Boomstick: Futaba is the biological daughter of Sojiro. The guy we mentioned at the beginning? Glad you totally remember. After awakening to her persona, she became a support for the Phantom Thieves, helping from her... Tentacle UFO turned... floating... energy ball... turned triangle.
Wiz: Futaba can hack the Metaverse, causing effects that put her side at an advantage. For example, she can hack the current position of the battle, making every enemy knocked down and allowing for free follow up attacks. She can also buff, heal, and pick up the party, sometimes all at the same time. She can also protect them once per fight if they would have died otherwise.
Boomstick: And Joker gets to take advantage of this in a fight because he's a fucking nerd. Top of his class at school, talented strategist, he's just asking to be punched in the face.
Wiz: So it just goes to show: know who you're messing with before you do something wrong. Because if you act too selfishly, if you harm someone, if you try to do something horrendous, not even the gods will be able to help you, as they are all too busy being commanded by thou's strongest foe.
Joker: Checkmate.
Frisk is DETERMINED to win DEATH BATTLE[]
Wiz: A long time ago, humans and monsters got into a war. They fought about power, and what the other might do with it. The humans, much stronger than the monsters, bested them and locked them away underground, only able to all come out if they had four human souls, enough power to become a god. So, they were locked down, killing whatever unlucky human children happened to come down, in hopes they could one day return to their homes on the surface.
Boomstick: ...Are you reading the right intro? This is the funny skeleton game, right?
Wiz: Yep. Don't ask questions, it'll only get more confusing.
Boomstick: Aaalrighy then. Well, one day, a human fell underground. And that day everything changed. That day... Frisk fell down.
Wiz: Frisk is an ambiguously gendered, ambiguously aged child. But not just any ambiguously gendered, ambiguously aged child. An Amb... Screw it, they had the powers of SOUL and DETERMINATION. I'm not saying it again.
Boomstick: Remember the power those humans wanted? It was the power of human SOULS. You see, monster SOULS are weak, while human SOULS are strong and can be absorbed by monsters, making a single monster pretty strong. So humans wanted to keep the power to themselves.
Wiz: Meanwhile, DETERMINATION is a sort of fluid that humans have, but monster's can't handle under normal circumstances. It grants special powers to those that have high amounts of it, including the ability to SAVE and LOAD.
Boomstick: Oh yeah, we're getting meta now. In most games, saving and loading is just a game mechanic. But here, it's canon to the world. Every time someone with high amounts of DETERMINATION were to die, they can go to the most recent save point, essentially jumping to a timeline where they didn't start the fight or die yet, and keep the memories of it without anyone else easily being able to tell.
Wiz: The only people that seem to know it are people who have either monitored it or know of its existence. But there may be subtle signs of it if you know where to look and what to look for. For example, someone's body language.
Boomstick: And Frisk is the most determined around, so they are definitely able to.
Wiz: Besides those, though, Frisk has a rather large moveset. They can stare you down, paralyzing you, clear their mind and remove any effects on them as well as increasing their defense, they can flex to get stronger, and can heat up or cool down an area around them.
Boomstick: But there's a lot more than just that, those are just the most important. Frisk can also carry around a number of items to use in fights, like... a stick. They can throw it to instantly pacify any dog enemy. Amazing.
Wiz: There's more than just that, They can eat Sea Tea, increasing their speed to double what it normally is, a Face Steak, which increases their attack, and a number of full heals they can eat at any time. They can even use a phone that shoots electric pellets, disarms bombs, and can turn into a jetpack.
Boomstick: But where it starts getting good is Frisk's weapons and armor. Such as... a stick. The same one as earlier. They also start with a bandage.
Wiz: But there's also the Burnt Pan, which increases healing effectiveness, the Empty Gun-
Boomstick: Sounds fucking useless.
Wiz: -and the ballet shoes, which they can use to do a flurry of kicks. For armor, they can use the Stained Apron to passively heal, the Cowboy Hat, which increases their attack, and the Temmie Armor, which has a high defense, increases their attack, and passively heals them.
Boomstick: But their best stuff is the Real Knife and The Locket. When Chara, the first human to fall underground, is with them, Frisk gets these insanely op items, They have 99 attack and 99 defense respectively, and no other effects, but holy shit is that powerful.
Wiz: Speaking of Chara, they are another ambiguous child that died and now is in Frisk's head. They can possess Frisk and seem much more powerful, and are able to strike fear into literally anything. Even Flowey, who claims to be completely emotionless due to not having a soul, cowers in fear at just Chara's presence.
Boomstick: Eh, who cares. What I'm really interested in are Frisk's feats. Because it's just so funny and bullshit. For example, Frisk is completely fine in a snowy forest and a burning hot place with lava everywhere. In fact, it's so hot in the lava area, that it can melt styrofoam in seconds. That means it's at least 400 degrees! And remember that heat up ability? They can use it there without any worry.
Wiz: Frisk can also survive an oven exploding right in front of them, move faster than lightning right from a cloud, and tank hits from what appear to be small nukes. And this is all at their weakest.
Boomstick: That's right. At their strongest, Frisk can literally slash and kill timelines. And they can survive a god erasing the timeline they're in with a big fuck off explosion.
Wiz: That also means that, at high DETERMINATION, Frisk can survive without oxygen and take hits that could destroy timelines.
Boomstick: But that's not all. At the very high end of DETERMINATION, Frisk can just... not die. Like, their physical being can explode, but they just say "No, fuck you." and be perfectly fine the next second. No SAVEing and LOADing needed.
Wiz: But none of this means that they're perfect. Frisk can die over and over, and has a very limited inventory. And Chara is a little bit crazy, and would likely charge in with the strongest attacks Frisk has, without thinking of if it's the best choice. Even still, if you see a child in a striped shirt holding a knife, be prepared, as it may be the last thing you ever see.
Frisk: *You are filled with DETERMINATION
Prelude[]
Wiz: Alright, the combatants are set, and we've run the data through all possibilities.
Boomstick: IT'S TIME FOR A DEATH BATTLEEE!
FIGHT![]
Joker jumps from chandelier to chandelier, avoiding the shadows on the ground beneath him, before jumping down and landing on a shadow, instantly killing it.
Futaba: Alright, Joker. You’re almost to the treasure room. Just keep going straight.
Oracle reported from the entrance, surveying the floor plan.
Joker, or Ren, was working with Futaba on a new palace they discovered while the rest of the Phantom Thieves were on vacation. It sprung up practically out of nowhere, and while it was pretty easy to get into it, they didn’t know how difficult its ruler might be, or what they did.
Joker soon approached the door at the end of the hall, opening it into a large, empty room, fully black aside from the glittering star-shaped thing in the middle of the room.
Futaba: Is that… the treasure? But we haven’t sent the calling card yet.
Joker begins to approach, but he heard footsteps approaching, and hides behind the door.
Frisk, the ruler of this palace, walks in, closing the doors behind them. They go up to the star and hold their hand out towards it, before turning around and looking for something.
Futaba: Now’s about as good as ever, Joker!
Ren nods to Futaba, before running out of his hiding spot, pulling out his knife, and slicing at Frisk. Caught off guard, Frisk tries to take out a stick, but it’s sliced right through. Joker then gets a combo off on the child, slicing at them a bit, before shooting them away with his gun.
Now at a safe distance, Akechi’s Sleuthing Mastery activates, showing Joker that Frisk is resistant to ice, fire, and electricity, and nothing else. Frisk also takes the time to check Joker, seeing his stats as DEF??? and ATK???, with them analyzing that he probably can change his stats on the fly.
Futaba: They seem tough, but you’re stronger, Joker. Hit them where it counts!
He nods, before rushing in. Frisk also begins running in, equipping the tough gloves. Ren goes for a leg sweep, but the child jumps over it, punching down on the leg used. They then go for a combo, punching Joker in the face before punching him back.
Joker, stopping himself from being thrown into a wall, takes off his mask and screams…
Joker: Arsene!
Arsene appears behind Ren, and as the Phantom Thief points, the persona throws a ball of curse energy at Frisk.
Frisk jumps past it, letting it dissipate behind them, before running at Joker while also equipping the ballet shoes somehow. They send a flurry of kicks at Joker, but Joker is dodging past them. Frisk then lands a leg sweep, knocking over Ren, but he doesn’t get to land before Frisk kicks him into the air, and keeps him up there with a flurry of kicks, before Arsene appears in front of Joker, countering a kick and giving Joker the opportunity to shoot Frisk up. He fires every round off, before doing a special gun trick, firing and spinning in the air, knocking Frisk down. Then Joker pulls out his dagger and runs back and forth, slashing at Frisk with each run by, before finishing it off with a bullet to their head.
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Futaba: Well done Joker! Now get the treasure and get-
Futaba: -about as good a time as ever!
Frisk was at the star treasure in the center of the room, and Joker was hiding by the door. Taking Oracle’s advice, Joker jumps out, dagger in hand, but Frisk counters with a burnt pan to his head, making him stagger back.
Joker: Whuh-
Futaba: Joker! I’ve got a scan of the palace for you. Looks like there’s a lot of empty space below you. Break the floor and grapple to something.
After finishing his stagger session, Joker thanks Futaba, and blocks Frisk, who was going for another pan strike, with his gun. The two attempt to hit each other, missing their bullets and swings. Soon, Joker finds an opening, and shoots his grapple at Frisk’s leg, before tripping them and giving himself the time to switch personas into…
Joker: Shiki-Ouji!
While Frisk is trying to get up, he casts God’s Hand, slamming it into Frisk and the ground, making it collapse into a mental recreation of Snowdin. Frisk falls off into a void, while Joker grapples to solid ground.
Futaba: I’m still reading their signature. That must be a far-
Before Futaba can finish, Frisk flies upwards, wearing a jetpack. They also have a deep red knife and a heart locket now, and a… frightening smile on their face. Joker steps back out of fear, closing his eyes, before opening them and stepping forward. He wasn’t scared anymore.
Flying forward, Frisk, currently possessed by Chara, swings wildly and swiftly. Joker fires Dream Needles at them, but they duck around and strike at Joker…
Who doesn’t move an inch back. Or look hurt. Finding this to be an opening, he casts Heat Riser on himself and begins railing at Frisk, slashing into them, stealing the jetpack off their back, and blasting them away, as he switches to…
Joker: Izanagi-no-Okami!
Frisk gets back to it, slashing at Joker, who doesn’t react in time, leading to…
Their own arm being blown off, knife being blown into a tree.
Joker had given Izanagi-no-Okami a bunch of reflect skill cards, including Relfect Phys, and they had just activated it. Now he had plenty of time.
Futaba: Take this!
Futaba was busy typing away, and had given Joker Concentrate and Focus, boosting his attack further than it already was.
Joker: By the Myriad Truths!
Everything was in place. As Izanagi raised its sword, and it spun its sword in its hand, the area around Frisk erupted with damage. One hit was all it took for Frisk’s body to explode into a million bloody pieces.
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However, Frisk wasn’t done yet. They refused.
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They, now fully healed of their wounds extremely quickly, ran for their knife. But the second hit came far too quickly.
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But yet again, they refused.
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They were just inches away. They grabbed it, and flung it at Joker, before-
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The knife flew right at Joker’s face, but bounced off with enough force to go back into Frisk’s body, splitting the already destroyed torso they had.
Futaba: Well done, Joker! Now go get the treasure.
Joker nods and grapples up to-
Futaba: -about as good a time as ever!
Frisk was in the center of the room, touching the star thing and drinking some Sea Tea. Joker was hidden by the door. So, he took the jump on them. But they countered, blocking it with a red knife, putting on a suit of armor at the same time.
Futaba: How did they expect the attack!? Be careful, they might be powerful.
Joker was barely listening, as he was in the flow, increasing his power for magic and physical spells.
Then Frisk pulled out the Empty Gun, and fired point blank. Joker was getting peppered with shots, trying to get a hit in. But even with his gun, he was missing every shot. So, he switched to…
Joker: Shiki-Ouji!
But as the bullets kept hitting him, he was feeling like it was hurting him still.
Futaba: What? Those aren’t gun hits? Maybe they’re Almighty bullets.
Joker began to try to dodge around them, and while he was still getting hit a bit, he was avoiding the majority. Then, Frisk pulled out their cell phone, which turned into a jetpack, and stabbed the floor with their knife, causing it to collapse. Joker grappled to solid ground in the fake Snowdin, while Frisk stayed in the air, firing shots still.
Joker: Futaba-
Futaba: I’m on it!
Futaba hacked in some buffs for Joker, increasing his speed, strength, and defense. Even still, he was getting hit by a couple, although he was dodging more than before. Even as he cast some spells at Frisk, he couldn’t hit them. Finally, Joker had enough.
Joker: Satanael!
Satanael came out, the size of a small skyscraper, and looking Frisk directly in the… eyelids. It aimed its gun up into the sky, firing, and calling down God’s Hand, which Frisk barely dodges, but their jetpack gets caught, causing them to land on the bridge by Snowdin. Joker aims at Frisk, Satanael aiming at them as well.
Joker: Checkma-
Frisk gives a stern stare at Joker, paralyzing him.
Futaba: Joker! Hang in there, I’ll help you!
Frisk fires faster, eating a steak looking like a face as well, all while approaching. Futaba typed and typed away, before hitting enter. Joker instantly was no longer paralyzed, but the bullets weren’t stopping.
Futaba: No!
She panicked and hit more keys, causing a glitchy barrier to block all the bullets going for Joker, giving Joker time.
Joker: Checkmate.
He fired his gun, and so did Satanael, who fired the Sinful Shot at Frisk.
But it was too late. Frisk was running in, not firing for now, getting out of the path of the Sinful Shell and dodging the bullet, before sliding under Joker and firing into his back, up to his head, in which the bullet pierced right through, also hitting and destroying Joker’s mask.
Futaba: REN!!
Futaba couldn’t do anything. She could only watch as Joker was killed.
Frisk wasn’t done yet, though. They pulled out their knife, and Chara took over, regaining that sickening smile. They sliced into Joker tens, hundreds, thousands of times, before one final swing.
The screen turns black. Before a single red swipe fills the screen.
Joker’s body explodes into millions of tiny chunks. All Joker could see was Frisk, stained in blood, eyes open for once, in a sickening look. All he could feel was fear.
Before he couldn’t feel or see anything at all.
Frisk walked calmly away, around the corner, to another save point, where they reached out and touched it. Then, they turned slightly towards the camera, eye red, knife glinting off the light.
Before Frisk jumps at the camera itself.
Conclusion[]
KO!
Boomstick: Woah! I thought this was an easy win for Joker!
Wiz: This is one of the most interesting matchups we've ever done on this show before. They both were incredibly powerful, but Joker was actually a lot stronger.
Boomstick: Both were impossibly fast, with Frisk being able to run past timelines in Asriel's fight and Joker being able to hit the persona of Thor, who was just as impossibly fast. Fighting Thor without any help is even a necessary fight.
Wiz: But with strength and durability, Joker was miles ahead. He was able to command and fight personas that were much higher than anything in Undertale, such as Baal.
Boomstick: But that fucking DETERMINATION! Joker had no way to get around SAVEs and LOADs, as he couldn't completely erase Frisk from existence or go back in time to before Frisk saved and kill them there.
Wiz: There are also a lot of interconnected factors, such as most of Frisk's kit not being able to get past a persona that reflects electric and physical damage.
Boomstick: They both could likely remove the other's status effects, or at least the mental ones for Frisk, and the physical ones like paralyzation or burning wouldn't be a problem due to the elemental resistances they have.
Wiz: At first, we thought this would be a tie, with Frisk unable to kill Joker, and Joker unable to stop Frisk from respawning, even if he knew it existed somehow. But then we saw the Empty Gun.
Boomstick: What? That piece of trash?
Wiz: It's implied that Frisk uses DETERMINATION bullets to fire out, which we believe would be an Almighty attack. The closest other element is holy, but... Most DETERMINATION users aren't exactly all too holy.
Boomstick: So, with them being Almighty, Joker wouldn't reflect or resist them at all, and it'd be consistent damage Frisk could do and utilize after a number of LOADs.
Wiz: And unlike Joker, these bullets are DETERMINATION, which would likely mean they move as fast as the person, not the speed of a bullet, but also they'd do more damage than a bullet would too.
Boomstick: Anyone starting to think maybe it isn't useless?
Wiz: Frisk could also utilize Sea Tea, which can double their speed. Joker's speed increases would not be equal, and his speed debuffs would need to actually hit Frisk, which is hard when they can analyze his attack patterns for life after life.
Boomstick: And even statuses were in Frisk's favor. Sure, Joker could Detox them or Futaba could clear them, but those aren't guaranteed every time he gets a status, and if an emotionless creature like Flowey can feel crippling and obedient fear from just being in the same room as Chara, someone like Joker could get fear constantly, which would stop him from acting until it's cleared.
Wiz: So ultimately, despite being much, much weaker, Frisk was the only one with any win condition, and it was a pretty viable one as well.
Boomstick: In the end, it was easy to DETERMINE the winner, and they stole the win right out from under us.
Wiz: The winner is Frisk.