Talk:Z-Fighters VS Justice League/@comment-27019676-20180804204807/@comment-31550106-20180815202657

1. Composite Superman gets tomped by anyone equal to or stronger than Jiren, since Pre-Crisis Superman and Infinite Zamasu are literally the same thing

2. Combat Speed =/= Travel Speed. Superman and Flash are definetely faster in travel, but in terms of actual combat it's highly arguable, especially with high tier Z Fighters like Goku and Vegeta being quadrodecillions of times faster than light (with Goku being arguably infinite speed, since he is > Suppressed Jiren in every way, and Suppressed Jiren moved in stopped time and Supreme Kai also said that "Time is nothing compared to Jiren's power")

3. Suppressed Jiren level beings and above are all infinite due to being > Infinite Zamasu, who is a literall sentient timeline

4. Pre-Crisis isn't even used in this Death Battle, so why are you bringing it up?

5. Many of the other members of the Justice League besides Superman are fodder to even Krillin. Teamwork will play a massive role in this fight.