Talk:Shulk vs Young Xehanort/@comment-25275196-20160323070512/@comment-25275196-20160325073538

The more you describe Xehanort's time abilities, the more I see resemblances to Zanza. You say that he does extensive abuse over the rules of time to ensure his furture will come to pass. Zanza. Zanza had predestined the world to his desires, which was why he knew everything that would come to pass, but he required a vessel as a pawn, which was once Arglas, and then Shulk. After Zanza was freed, he was able to progress the future towards the one he had predestined, but Shulk managed to escape the passage of fate, and was able to forge is own future, breaking free of the curse of Zanza. Shulk could do much the same thing to Xehanort that he did to Zanza.

Since this battle involves the Monado II, Shulk would still be possessed by Zanza. Zanza would not allow Shulk to die as of yet, and the battle would turn into Zanza vs Xehanort before too long. A better fight would be Post Mechonis Core Shulk with the six Replica Monados vs Xehanort.

Now, you say that Xehanort has a form of Arts Seal. Arts Seal only works on regular arts, while the Monado Arts are talent arts. Shulk has his own version of Arts Seal; Monado Purge, which also inflicts Aura Seal, which might even disable Xehanort's time abilities (Don't know though). Shulk's status effects may only last ten or so seconds in the gameplay of Xenoblade, but we know from the clock of the game that ten or so out-game seconds is closer to ten or so in-game minutes, meaning that his auras last several minutes. Shulk's status effects that he can inflict include Break-Topple-Dazing an enemy, Removing enemy buffs, Bleed, Arts Seal, Aura Seal, Defence Down, and Slow, while he can heal himself, cloak himself with Shadow Eye, and sacrifice his health to make himself stronger and able to use more Monado Arts (He won't be usung Battle Soul often, but it is useful to get out of a bad situation), make his ability to dodge attacks nearly 100%, and decrease damage taken by 75%, effectively quadrupling his defence. If Shulk uses moves like Cyclone, Xehanort won't be able to avoid them just by attacking from another position in the past; he'd need to get really far away.

You may be able to argue that he can't spam Monado Arts, but every time he recieves a vision, he can use another one again instantly, and when fighting an opponent such as Xehanort, he's going to recieve a lot of visions.

That's enough for now. I'll see what counter you can come up with (If you can come up with one).