Talk:Obito Uchiha vs. Darth Vader/@comment-27437279-20151221145539/@comment-27397663-20160611192606

IN THE ICE MIRRORS haku was legitimately light speed, he was moving using reflections from mirrors, atleast thats the case when hes not low on chakra.

mirror reflections is basically the light bouncing off a mirror and im pretty sure that light travels at the speed of light.

the way we see things is basically like this: our eyes catch rays of light which reach our eyes (and then the signal goes into the brain, but thats not important). basically what it means is that its simply impossible to see the opponent who is moving at light speed or above all the time no matter how strong or fast you are, bcs the ray of light cant even reach ur eyes, let alone sending the signal to your brain, unless you can somehow make the light go faster, but i never heard of anyone capable of that. haku was moving through all of his mirrors without any blur or any sign of movement (atleast at first).

but there are fighter battles in planet environments.

I've seen VS battle wiki being wrong many times, so its nothing more than a secondary source of info. primary sources are always the manga and anime. ofc i know that me saying this will make you post the same or another page of comics, but as i said, i've seen people do the same thing, but they are not even remotely considered relativistic. and things like that often cause flaws in vs battle wiki.

sure i dont deny that vader could move at such speed for an instant, but its definately not his constant combat speed. usually there is a very big difference between the actual combat speed and one or a few best feats of speed. then vs battle wiki just applies the best speed/reaction feat. and ofc ppl then think that it is the actual speed. or they tend to confuse speed with reactions - lets say some kind of peak human manages to react to lightning and then they assume that his opponent who lets say is peak human or slightly superhuman who never had such a feat will never catch him.

they dont have something like categorisation of speed for 1. usual combat speed. 2. highest possible speed they can reach. 3. reactions. mixing this all into one gives the wrong idea many times.

i hope i am literal enough here, bcs the rant is long enough as it is. i've said what i wanted to say, so i would like to end the subject.