Talk:Dante vs Cloud Strife/@comment-29905965-20180329132843

I'm gonna give it to Dante on this one. Cloud like most JRPG characters have their feats in gameplay, which also causes him to suffer. Gameplay feats for JRPG characters are like a double edged sword. On one hand we see Cloud tanking Super-nova from Safer-Sephiroth, and the other hand we see him being threatened by regular mundane swords, and guns.

However, there is also cutscenes, and some scaling Cloud has, being stronger than Zack who defeated Bahamut Fury, and cutscenes showing Cloud being capable of trading blows with Sephiroth who cut through a steel skyscraper sized canon.

Dante has hit someone so hard that they flew at high speeds and crashed into a sign, swung his sword hard enough that he cleaved through the sky and left a large gash into his building. He's even shown to being to block the Savior's punch, and withstand being bombarded by meteors as he reverted to base form in a cutscene.

Cloud has materia, but this is also dependable on what materia is allowed for Cloud, and in Final Fantasy VII, there are loads of them. Dante has many weapons ranging from mundane guns and swords to straight up demonic weapons, and this also includes time-stop from Bangle of Time. Dante also has Devil Trigger, Sparda Devil Trigger, and Majin Form along with many other abilities.

Cloud has no healing factor which is Dante's biggest advantage here aside from transformations, and large arsenal of weapons, and abilities. However, Cloud should be physically superior to Dante with my statement above as he was able to trade blows with Sephiroth who cut through a steel skyscaper sized canon, and Dante has not fought anyone like that.

Cloud and Dante's durability should be about equal as Cloud could easily tank Bahamut-Sins blast without any notable injures (and somehow his clothes were fine too), and Dante was easily able to get back up from being bombarded by meteors when he reverted back into base form. However, considering Dante has an insanely fast healing factor, he takes the durability department.

Speed, like the feats department, Cloud lacks a lot of stuff as most of his stuff occurs in gameplay. However, we've seen him clearly avoid machine-gun fire, and with gameplay feats he's avoided lightning. Dante was able to react to a Blitz and even keep with said demon who can turn into lightning. This and he was able to avoid rapid fire from Lady. So their about equal in speed.

Although I love both characters, I'm giving this to Dante after a very good fight. He has far to many weapons and abilities to take on Cloud. Cloud while having the strength advantage and has hax (via Materia) to bring Dante down. Materia aquires a cast time and same goes with his more powerful ones which have longer cast time, and Dante wouldn't just let him have the time for it.