Talk:Kylo Ren VS Cinder Fall/@comment-27190018-20160408234640/@comment-24585378-20160420202307

" Ren is ok but considering how he lost to Rey who had no exprience even using a lightsaber before and struggled to keep up with her"

He lost to Rey due to context. One: He'd just killed Han which butchered him mentally and emotionally. He'd taken a shot by one of the strongest blasters in Current Canon Which sent troopers flying and shattered stone.

“ Stunned by his own action, Kylo Ren fell to his knees. Following through on the act ought to have made him stronger, a part of him believed. Instead,   he found himself weakened.”

Taken from The Force Awakens novelization

“Before she could fire, Ren raised a hand, halting her. She strained against him, her anger giving her strength. But she couldn’t fire.   He was struggling also, against her newly discovered ability, as well as   the wound inflicted by Chewbacca’s bowcaster.” Taken from The Force Awakens novelization''“Chewbacca’s quarrel had burned a hole through his robes and shattered the armor around his torso. From the looks of it, he was wounded badly.” Taken from The Force Awakens junior novelization“The hilt wobbled in the snow. Pulling it through the Force proved more strenuous than it should. The pain of Ren’s wound clouded his concentration.”'' Taken from The Force Awakens junior novelizationRey, while not having any training with a Lightsaber, has mastered her quarterstaff (Thingy.)  “He countered; she blocked, then went in for another attack. While her sword strokes were unpolished, it was clear that she knew how to fight with hand-to-hand weapons.” Taken from The Force Awakens junior novelizationRey also caught him off guard quite a bit. Ren met her with his own weapon alight. Expecting weakness, he encountered only strength. Her skill with the device was raw at best, but it was backed by a fury that was as new to his experience as it was unexpected .” You lowballed Kylo.