Talk:Bowser VS King Dedede/@comment-25980853-20170519210052/@comment-29002772-20170519225249

Yeah, fuck the rhymes for now, lol. But strength is obvious. Bowser has pulled an island, chucked a giant boulder that weighed 40-50,000+ tons---he threw it back where it came from, he is faaar stronger than Mario, who can lift fortresses with ease at SMALL size, was confirmed to be the strongest Mario character physically, meaning he is stronger thank DK, who punched the moon out of orbit, Bowser stopped a train (only failed because he tripped over some small rock), and he has shown to have strength with his weight, as he can cause shockwaves. King DDD's best strength feats include lifting up a big monster...not to mention he mainly fights with his HAMMER, which is far more powerful than DDD. It has the capability to demolish a building with one swing, as stated previously. Bowser mainly fights with his bare hands. The weapons are just secondary items. His body and fire are the primary weapons. Also, though Bowser may have gotten some HELP in pulling the island and chucking hte giant boulder, his muscles just weren't working properly and his body naturally produces adrenaline, so there is no reason to say that he couldn't have done it. I forgot to mention that he even won a strenght contest against his minions with a statue (IIRC, it was just plainly pushing it against each other). Now, durability​ is a bit closer. Dedede scales from planet to universal. Bowser scales from country to at least universal...he survived two black holes and a supernova without a Grand Star...who knows how much more he could've tanked and the loomas did NOT protect him. They came after​the catastrophe and the Super Mario Galaxy guide states that "Bowser escaped from a horrible fate", proving that he survived. The definite goners were Toads and maybe Bowser Jr. Also, he is immune to lava, as shown in Super Mario 64, when he comes out of lava unscathed. Don't get me wrong, DDD is DAMN powerful. He takes speed, no question, and intelligence may be a tie. So, it would be like this.

Without weapons:

Strength-Bowser, no question

Speed-Dedede, no question

Intelligence-Most likely a tie

Durability-Bowser, but definitely NOT by a wide margin