Talk:Asriel Dreemurr vs Bill Cipher/@comment-29141999-20170220115304/@comment-29403514-20170502212105

Bill never got debuffed whatsoever. The whole "dying in a 3D space debunks 11D Bill" is REALLY flawed. Just because the ship crash landed in a 3D space killing them doesn't mean the Beta Aliens aren't 11D. Think of it like the T.A.R.D.I.S. in a sort of way. The T.A.R.D.I.S. is an 11 dimensional space that can exist within the 3D space. Seeing how the Beta Aliens are stated as 7 - 11D beings, it would be logical to assume their ship was composed of 11 dimensions. The ship may have crash landed, but the crash on the inside of the ship itself was 11D. When the 11D crash happened on the inside, the Beta Aliens died due to the the ship killing them on the dimensional plane of existence they were on. The T.A.R.D.I.S. has fallen before and took damage in a 3D space. Does that debunk the 11D T.A.R.D.I.S.? If you say no, you are practically saying that it's the same case for the Beta Alien's ship.

I've seen other arguments such as they can interact in this space, but I would like to bring up the T.A.R.D.I.S. again. People can interact with it rather easily and these are just mere humans. Does that mean the T.A.R.D.I.S. is not 11D despite being stated numerous times? Again, same thing applies to the Beta Alien ship. Another one is with the magnet gun affecting the robot. The magnet gun argument in itself shouldn't even be a thing because Ford has literally stated his inventions were made by using the tech that the Beta Aliens made. So that means the Beta Aliens have used their own tech against their own tech. Case and point is that it really means nothing. Anyone with higher dimensional understanding can easily debunk the so-called "perfect rebuttals" against 11D Bill.