Talk:Sonic vs Bowser/@comment-27824667-20160220165846/@comment-794213-20160302053404

Besides Bowser's fire breath and physical abilities, NOTHING Bowser has is standard. You realize that, right? That the Mario series likes to switch up what Bowser has in his arsenal, and that the Mario series doesn't even have a confirmed canon?

Sonic needs a separate dimension for Darkspine Sonic. My point wasn't that the Grand Star isn't quite as standard for Bowser as the Chaos Emeralds are for Sonic, it was that Sonic needs to go and collect the Emeralds and generally spends the course of the games looking for them for a power-up at the end. Sort of like how Bowser did with the Grand Star.

As for the black hole that Sonic was sucked into, I guess you're right. What I should have said is that it wasn't a true black hole because Sonic was shown for a split second right in front of the black hole, and wasn't immediately sucked in or pulled in far past what the event horizon would have been.

If you're going to say that Mario and Bowser weren't sucked in past the event horizon, first off, they were much farther away, and second, they actually were being sucked in. If you really look at the scene, you can see that they are certainly being sucked inward.

Alright, I guess you're right. The black hole Bowser was sucked into wasn't exactly a true black hole either, but with how much was sucked into it and how big of a scale it was on, it doesn't need to be. The explosion and matter dispersion alone would have been more than enough force to atomize a solar system.