Talk:Goku VS Darkseid/@comment-31550106-20170929230811/@comment-27077671-20180428202423

1. travel speed =/= combat speed. Technically i lowballed Goku for speed since he actally has FTL feats in Dragon Ball (reacting to the Solar Flare), and he also does have infinite speed from feats in the Tournament of Power

Just because travel speed doesnt mean combat speed doesnt prove Goku to be billions of times faster in combat than he is in travel (septillion is a billion times larger than quadrillion). Even so, You have to prove author's intent that combat speed>travel speed. Also, not only has Goku got those glasses before the solar flare even happened, Goku does not have infinite speed. This is the fanbase taking things out of proportions, if Goku had infinite speed, foghts would take 0 seconds, no need for a timer.

2. Goku reached 4th dimensional after achieving ui, since he was able to have enough ki to instantly fill and shake an infinitely empty realm, and somehow became many ties stronger than that after getting Mastered UI.

And that is what makes UI Goku Universal+. Nowhere near quintillions.