Talk:Flowey VS Giygas/@comment-28136082-20160405152928/@comment-30620129-20170410220812

that's extremely NLF sounding that giygas can't be hurt, considering Ness is lower dimensional from Giygas that's likely the reason they couldn't really hurt him before praying. However someone similar in power should be able to hurt him.

And what you must realize is that Frisk's determination can throw them from below average to multiversal. You underestimate how much power Frisk really has.

And Flowey can reload if he's dead

frisk has done it a thousand times and flowey had more determination than them at points.