Talk:Shazam VS Vegeta/@comment-37960362-20190726120938/@comment-37960362-20190726232012

Attack Potency:

I'm pretty sure that defeating someome who has the power of the big bang is not a Universal+ feat, IIRC it's "only" Universal.

Though Superman does have many other Universal+ feats in Post-Crisis, so it doesn't really matter.

But, there's something important to consider: The power gap between Universal+ and Low Multiversal (Low Multiversal and Multi Universal are the same thing, if I'm not mistaken) is considered to be infinite. As in, a Universal+ combatant could defeat 1, 5 or 500 other Universal+ combatants at the same time and would still be considered Universal+. He could get as many power boosts as he'd like - he'd still be Universal+.

Meaning, the feat is not low multiversal.

Also no, Vegeta is low multiversal. SSJG Goku and a heavily suppressed Beerus performed a low multiversal feat, and Vegeta has far surpassed SSJG Goku from the start of Dragon Ball Super. It's totally alright if you do think that the feat isn't low multiversal, but if so, please explain why you think so.

Speed:

It seems like the feat that you've sent me was never even accepted - I've send you the link to the feats that Post Crisis Characters currently scale to.

Also, travel speed does not equal combat speed. I am like 95% sure that the combat speed for Dragon Ball Characters heavily outdoes their travel speed. A fitting example would be the feat that I've sent you from Vegeta in the Cell Saga: No travel speed feat from anyone at that time was even close to said feat.