Talk:Superman VS Doctor Doom/@comment-27255656-20151129174733/@comment-25263388-20160524230424

Lifting up the Spectre is nowhere near as impressive as it was stated to be

Green Lantern's done it before

Spectre is very heavy, yes, but nowhere near that heavy

Like, man, Krillin could lift him easy, if he had Wonder Woman balancing (which is basically all she did).

The infinite pages book wasn't Superman, it was Uberman, whose powers are Superman's, but inverse. Superman has incredible speed, and thus Uberman has incredible strength, many times more than Superman's, and this has always been clear.

If Dr Doom is indeed faster than Superman, then that makes no sense, seeing as Superman's speed is infinite.

Dr Doom > The World Over Heaven Requiem >>> Superman >>>>> Goku