Talk:Fully Evolved Water Starter Battle Royale/@comment-24780629-20160809022011

Here's how I think it'll go:

6. Empoleon. Attacks can't really do much to others, typing fucks itself over.

5. Greninja. While Substitute, Spikes, Smokescreen, and Double Team can be a HUGE problem, it's likely that bruisers like Feraligatr and Swampert will take advantage of its shit stats.

4. Swampert. As much as it pains me that my two favorite water starters are now out, Swampert really only was Water and Ground moves, with Hammer arm being the only real good move it has outside of that. It's definitely gonna do damage with its Earthquake before dying.

3. Blastoise. Blastoise is tough as fuck, there's no denying that, but its moves are basically limited to Water moves and Normal moves, the best of which are Hydro Pump and Skull Bash. Since Skull Bash takes two turns, It would give enough time for Samurott and Feraligatr to attack.

2. Feraligatr. Yep. Feraligator is formidable, no doubt about that. It can boost speed, lower defenses, etc. But it follows the same "Water type Normal type" Move problem. With the exception of Thrash, it doesn't have that much of a good normal move pool. Super Power may also prove to be its downfall, especially against Samurott.

1. Samurott. Here's the thing, Samurott arguably falls into the same Water/Normal move trap, but it makes up for it with Swords Dance and Encore. Swords Dance can be used to power up Megahorn and Revenge and Retaliate. Against Feraligatr, you know it's gonna use Superpower against a few pokemon, ie Empoleon and Greninja, and if it uses it on Samurott, Superpower's gonna be WAY weaker, so Samurott can trap it with encore and then go all out as Superpower gets weaker and his defenses do the same.

tl;dr, Samurott wins do to Swords Dance, Encore, and pretty good moves, namely Megahorn