Talk:Ludwig VS Metal Sonic/@comment-26295154-20150516212337/@comment-205.222.248.149-20150522122116

@StarfoxSonicFan

So you're a Sonic fanboy. Well, like I said, Ludwig's my least favorite Koopaling, so there was no bias in the conclusion (plus, Metal Sonic's my second-favorite Sonic character, so it was pretty painful writing this result.). While I could understand some tension at the Metal Overlord part, Ludwig was MORE than a match for base form Metal. Plus, Ludwig IS stronger than Mario (Can cause an earthquake by merely WALKING in Super MArio Bros 3, something Mario hasn't accomplished), so it stands to reason he could lift 30+ tons and a castle as well.

Sonic characters are NOT better than Mario characters at everything. In fact Donkey Kong could beat Knuckles, and Waluigi could beat Fang the Sniper.

@Wiki Contributor

While the Black Sheild is impenetrable, Ludwig is smart enough to figure that out. He would do something like hit him once, and if that move fails, then it's obvious none of his moves will work. Plus, the Black Sheild has a price; loss of acceleration. Plus, Ludwig is more durable, seeing he can survived being dunked into LAVA, and tank attacks from Mario (a building buster) without dying. Finally, while Overlord's more than a match for Ludwig, Ludwig knows better than to fight a foe who outmatches him in close-quarters. And like I said ''thrice, I had removed Metal Overlord's invurability to prevent this from being a slaugther (but kept him super durable, to keep it realistic.). Ludwig could disarm Overlord's laser with a Bob-omb. And with his clones, deadly attacks, and intellect, he would find a way to take Overlord down. (That Bob-omb pile-up was my favorite part of the match, by the way, but, bac to the argument, I'm sure that would have been more than enough to beat Overlord.). One last thing: I didn't give Ludwig his Clown car from SSB4 (if I did, it would have been overkill).