Talk:Darth Vader vs. Arturia Pendragon/Saber/@comment-3463132-20150812034807/@comment-3463132-20150813064206

Right, quite a bit of that doesn't make sense.

" finite pool of mana"

And? Vader has finite amounts of energy as well- this by itself means nothing. She has more than enough energy for one battle with Vader- she is not going to simply run out from one battle. This is like saying a Jet is screwed because it only has enough fuel for a few hours but it's only going to be in battle for a few minutes.

" She’s bound by her honor as a knight thus she’d never rely on underhanded tactics"

Thus far you've presented no real reason she would have to- she physically outclasses Vader and is resistant to his magic. Vader being willing to fight dirty sounds good on paper- but what would he do that she hasn't dealt with before?

" Fourthly just her sixth sense could be fooled by methods that Saber never experienced before."

Two parts:

1) What does Vader do that no Servant or Master has ever done?

2) False, her instinct works regardless of what Saber herself knows- that's why it's called 'instinct'; it does not require conscious effort

" While her stubornness and strong Will is impressive, she like everyone else has a breaking point. Just use enough fear, uncertainty and intemidation and you can actually make anybody crack, under the preasure."

How? What can Vader possibly do to intimidate Saber? To cause her to fear or be uncertain? What can he possibly do to undermine the confidence of someone he doesn't know?

And none of that answered the two most important questions I had:

Why is The Force not Magic and so going to penetrate Saber's Resistance?

How can Vader physically defeat someone who is stronger and faster than he is?