Talk:Shulk vs Sora/@comment-34598214-20180207050122/@comment-5035900-20180207135714

If I could disagree on one point:

Yes, in optional cups, Sora can battle Hercules. No, that doesn't automatically translate to "He officially defeated him" as optional side quests are, well, optional, and not required. It's required to defeat villains like Ursula, so in canon, he's accomplished that, but others like Hercules and especially the likes of Sephiroth or Lingering Will don't offer the same guarantee.

And even if it were agreed upon that Sora defeated him, this is a Hercules in training, not the one that threw a tornado titan filled with Titans into space. He's still quite a show-off and his strength isn't on the same level as his movie self toward the end of the movie. It would explain why his godly power is drained from overuse in mid-battle (or in the first game's case, by throwing barrels at him).

Lastly, while you didn't state it, just to clarify my opinion on the matter, I also don't think Sora's strength should be scaled to Hercules.