Talk:Z-Fighters VS Justice League/@comment-30199286-20180819135711/@comment-38006448-20190114081434

@Mickey SSG Goku wasnt even 5/10 universal. It is really that simple but of course Fanboys are usually blind to what's infront of them. Firstly just ignore the anime. It was ridiculously exaggerated and defied any meaningful logic. If you care about what actually happened, then look no further than The Manga. The canon source of Dragon ball Renton Davis's answer to Which version of Dragon Ball Super is Canon? Manga or anime? (https://www.quora.com/Which-version-of-Dragon-Ball-Super-is-Canon-Manga-or-anime/answer/Renton-Davis) See in The Manga, chapter 4 to be exact, Goku and Beerus clash on earth
 * It should also be noted that Punching eachother is a two person effort. This means it is not one person causing it to happen. Which should be obvious***.

And not only is the universe not destroyed. The planet is fine. The only thing that could possibly be wanked to the punch being universal is Elder Kai saying “At this rate, the entire universe is in jeopardy.” or in the Viz translation

But either way it is just common exaggeration and is implying an overtime possibility anyway. Afterwards to end the Fight Beerus tossed a ball of ki meant to eradicate the earth

Or just destroy it in Viz Translation

And Goku managed to cancel it out with his own Kamehameha

Draining him to base tho. So Manga Wise, Super Saiyan God is plausibly a Planet Level power. Seeing as he stopped an attack meant to destroy one. Nothing besides common exaggeration could imply anything more. So there's your Facts.

Now i might as well explain why the anime is full of it and even if you used it, it wouldn't change much. Also none of this stuff happened in the Movie btw. In the episodes #12, #13, and #14 is when things get serious in Dragon Ball Super the anime. In Episode 12 the Infamous Punches happened

Note how the earth and everything on it is fine after the first punch

They merely notice a weird wave. See The Elder Kai (if you even want to trust him) says that

Then says

So what does this actually mean? Now the second punch actually did something
 * It means you will basically have to be at the end of the universe to feel the punches full effects. This also means being punched would cause the least Damage and it means that destroying the universe kills Beerus and Goku too.***

It knocked over people.

And gave them headaches. See at this point, according to the anime, The Humans are taking more damage than Goku or Beerus… Then the third punch which supposedly was going to destroy the universe, and also somehow summoned Dragons of Ki??,

Was stopped due to Goku matching Beerus fist

So all in all, there's really nothing logical about this being Universal punches. Later on they also keep fighting and

There are no universe destroying waves because it is just a mere quarrel.. More accurately, the anime didn't want to explain why the punches never happened again in any fight where Goku was way stronger than he was while fighting Beerus.

Also later after the punches Beerus and Goku use thier Ki attacks against eachother

Which the Narrator claims is Beerus Full Power

Which is a lie. Something Any Dragon Ball Fan would agree on. So anyone who thinks the Narrator is always right is obviously wrong. Anyway this clash creates

A “Super, super dense energy.”

Capable of destroying the world. Now i know World in Japanese can mean a planet or something more, but the fact the anime went from

Saying Universe to Saying

The world Pretty much means the anime has stopped exaggerating and went back to the Earth being the thing in danger here. Not really the universe. Fortunately Beerus nullifies the energy to stop it

Thanks to using 100% of his power

Here's the whole Narrator was wrong proof and even the Kais acknowledge he was still holding back the whole time

Of course then he says he is going to use 100% against Goku but that's just more lies.

Anyway it should be acknowledged now that anyone thinking Goku is a Universe Buster, obviously knows nothing about Dragon Ball. There has never been any true reason to believe Goku could actually destroy the universe. Take this from someone who has watched and read the entire series. The only actual Universe Buster is Zeno.

Full ultra instinct Goku is actually universe buster but The jla has the flash who could Easily blitz EVERY z fighter and he has a ridiculous speed hax, Superman showed multiple Multi universal feats and wonder woman and Mm on par with Superman who is Multi universal.

JLA wins.