Talk:Saitama vs. Krillin/@comment-27594653-20160111232400/@comment-3463132-20160112035206

"Do you really want to keep this up?"

I've got nothing better to do, if you think this is pointless then there's no need to respond.

"Frieza large planet and Krillin small planet"

Because people besides you (And you yourself once or twice) said because Krillin could harm Frieza at all that means he has to be planet-level. Frieza however was not paying attention to Krillin and so his defenses were lowered. Dragonball Z shows multiple times that if you let your guard down your defenses become less, their durability involves their Ki output- it's not just a flat "I am this durable". It matters how much energy they're using. Vegeta and Frieza (and by extension Goku and Krillin I guess) both mention this is how it works.

"By this logic Goku is island level"

False, because Goku at least has people say he's capable of more (Cell); and in Super we see him blow up multiple attacks that were claimed to be planet-level (Bills). Also his fistfight with Bills was apparently going to destroy the universe, which is a whee bit above planet no matter how you slice it. So no, by feats Goku is above planet.

Krillin has no such thing to be comparable besides power-scaling with powerlevels, which was stated by the creator of the series itself to not work.

"Before he started training"

Remind me again when we started being allowed to count feats backwards from when they happened?

It's pretty obvious Piccolo had to power up- Raditz by himself was 2v1ing Piccolo and Goku- and winning. Then the Saibamen show up and Piccolo can destroy them no problem? This leaves us two solutions:

A) The Saibamen were incredibly inferior to Raditz and Piccolo didn't get stronger

B) The Saibamen were equal to Raditz and Piccolo had surpassed Raditz

These are your options, pick one, once you do that we can proceed further if you wish.