Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5035900-20160610061225

Been a while since I've been off and I have had faith in the community here. So for starters, I'm neither condemning the entire community for what has happened, nor stating I have lost my faith in the community, period: I'm merely pointing out that select members have carried on this way and that is most unfortunate.

I'm talking about a long-going issue regarding select users going to user walls and giving their own cease and desists and/or ganging up on another user via their wall.

For starters, and this is really basic stuff, it is an ADMIN'S job to give out cease and desists. They make the calls on what a person has done and give cease and desists as a means of attempting to get the person to realize what they're doing is against the rules here and to get them to stop.

Secondly, and this has existed much longer, the "past time" of going to a user's wall and ganging up on them. What I find especially baffling is the number of users who join the moment one person starts an unpleasant discussion with them. What does one gain by joining these? By insulting the user on the receiving end? By ridiculing them? By treating them, and I'd bet highly on this one, in a way that the user acting as such would never want to be treated? Now bullying aside, why join the discussion in the first place? If one person has a concern they've voiced in such a tone, why is it your issue?

And this brings me to what happened just now on Maxevil's wall regarding the number of Pete fights he had added in quick succession.

How many of you have read the rules of this Wiki recently? Do you have it memorized? Where, at any point of the rules, did it say "no adding large number of fights for one character in one sitting"? Last time I checked, when I wrote up the first batch, there was no such rule for that. Even now after my leave, no such rule has been added yet. Should that be a rule now? Maybe so, it's certainly up for discussion. But Maxevil didn't even break one solid rule, and even if such a rule regarding the number of battles added at once is an addition to the rules tomorrow, that would be a rule added after the fact that, until then, was never enforced upon before, so he did nothing rule-breaking with that as of today.

That apparantly didn't stop some users from treating him... you know what, it's not even possible to find another word for it, so pardon my language... like crap... no, like shit. Not even treating him like a fellow user, and a long time user who, mind you, has been in this Wiki's community since its start. Acting like the admins were on their side, that antagonizing him to the umteenth extreme would be completely allowed, if not, encouraged towards him.

What should have been done? You wanna know what?

Tell an admin. Tell them your concern, and not with a "ban him" tone, but simply "maybe these number of pages at once are an issue, so talk to him". MagicRock talked to him to tell him to stop. Maxevil agreed and the situation was over.

...and the band kept rolling on even after the whole situation had been deflated. No, they, and I'm not even gonna sugarcoat it, want to see him hang for this apparant "bannable offense", telling him off like they are admins about to ban him. And you know what? They are in absolutely zero position to even act as such.

The part that I will neither get used to nor ever accept is this notion, this attitude that because of how the recipient acted that they themselves are somehow free to go to any extreme as a result.

This is true even of users who have done bannable offense. Some users decide to just jump onto actual cease and desists and taunt messages, then go to a childish extreme to essentially go "Nyah nyah, you're in trouble. You're going. Good ridance. Fuck you."

All my time as an admin, I never took action towards that, which is frankly my greatest regret of my stay as admin. That all of that can be viewed as acceptable behavior, if not, encouraged on this Wiki.

And to end the whole "they deserved it" justification... no, that statement's a complete mockery. Allow me to rephrase... to end the whole "they deserved it" excuse, and a pathetic one at that, if someone acts up, then you retort by treating them as such, even treating them worse than they acted... then you are no better than them. In fact, you're worse. Why? You had the ability, the capacity, the capability to act better than them, to be a grown up, and for those of you not legal adults, to be the more mature individual. By lowering yourselves to their low, if not even belower, you have ruined yourself and, for me frankly, are just as punishable as them.

I am not an admin any longer, so I cannot act on these words anymore. This rests not just on the admins, but also on you, the community, the whole of you, to be the better person. To stop treating this as acceptable. To stop encouraging this behavior. To stop treating it as a past time. That if any user acts like this, to tell an admin so they can either stop the person or closed down that wall thread.

And next time you want to talk to Maxevil or ANY USER about something you take issue with, you treat them like you would be treated... and last time I checked, that didn't include being mocked, insulted, belittled, ridiculed, antagonized, bullied, and threatened, now does it? 