Talk:Bowser VS King Dedede/@comment-26561766-20150926183437/@comment-29002772-20170507231713

Saying DDD wins is okay---but:

Strength:

First of all, DDD uses his hammer mainly when fighting. Bowser faaaaaar​ exceeds DDD in physical strength. Bowser was confirmed to be the strongest Mario character, even far more than DK, who punched the moon out of orbit. Mario can lift fotresses with ease and is weaker than both DK and Bowser by far. Dedede's best strength feats include him lifting a giant monter above his head for a certain amount of time and using his hammer​ which could demolish a building. Bowser can lift a 40,000+ ton boulder, which he then threw---it went back to where it came from​. He has pulled an island, won a strength match against his minions (there was a statue that was being pushed by both the minions and Bowser and Bowser won, as stated previously), and can crack planets. Though Bowser got a bit of help from Mario and the others for the boulder and island feats, his muscles weren't working properly. His bosy naturally pumps adrenaline, so there is no reason to say that he couldn't have done those things himself.

Durability:

Kirby actually doesn't have better durability than Bowser. Baby Bowser from Yoshi's Island could survive solar system attacks. Kirby is Multi-Solar System level or around that level. Bowser was shown to be at least universal, as he survived the black hole and supernova---basically the universe collapsing. No, the lumas didn't protect him--the guide at the end of Super Mario Galaxy 2 proves Bowser's survival. Also, you can see that the lumas were NOT there when catastrophe struck. Dedede is around Kirby's level of durability too. Both did survive a planetary explosion (Popstar).

Speed:

No contest-DDD wins. It could only change a bit if Bowser absorbed at least one Grand Star which makes him MFTL+.

Intelligence:

Both have moments of stupidity---but Bowser takes it. In Mario Party, his IQ was at least 4,000, He has been shown to be strategic at times and he has built many inventions that Mario had trouble with.

Armies:

Though most of Bowser's minions are horrible, minions such as Thwomps, Whomps, and especially, Magikoopas, can be pretty effective. Which army wins? Not sure. XD