Talk:Undyne the Undying vs Sans/@comment-31265036-20170717203201/@comment-32797911-20170812205649

Without her armor, her DEF increases. If it protects her body AND soul, it's you who got weaker. Plus I don't think a heart locket is stronger than armor, because Undyne's stats are higher.

Sans only defeated Chara using KR, because those are rare attacks. Extremely rare attacks. Sans can only do 1 damage.

Plus, the points before "Frisk bypassing durability" = Frisk is just that strong.

About Karma being vague? Undyne was well-intentioned in the killings (IF she killed anyone but evil monsters), so KR wouldn't work.

I said Sans doesn't know Undyne the Undying's attack patterns. Sans isn't watching the Undyne the Undying fight, he doesn't have even the TIME to.

Sans can't teleport. He doesn't even use the teleporting skill in the Genocide route.

About "Sans will get the first strike" What could that even do? Sans wouldn't take even a FRACTION of her HP. Then Undyne would use Green Mode = U rappin' DEAD ! Plus, I meant "with" the spear to block. He would be dead at the fourth block WITH the spear.