Talk:Gladion Vs Owain/@comment-26363358-20161205191736/@comment-27231329-20161216143217

The stats are not canon, they mean absolutely nothing and are only there to balance the game. They're not ususable for measuring a Pokemon's power and if we did use it Mega Mewtwo would be stronger than Arceus.



I have already stated my stance on this, we may need to agree to disagree here. This is probably why mountain or whatever Diglett was a thing while I never gave it stock at all.



In-canon, Silvally has fought Nihilego (doesn't matter if he won or not, he still held his own) who should not be behind the other UBs (judging by how it can match the player's team which can match the other beasts) who preformed the feats Gia mentioned which far outclasss what Owain can do.



We don't really know if he held his own or not, though. For all we know he got trashed around for five minutes, or he stomped Nihilego to dirt. We really don't know, and because of the circumstances I don't feel it's a reliable enough source to use.

And, again, if you really want to scale Nihilego to other UBs for some reason, the same should be done for Owain; and he scales to far stronger foes, making it a moot point.