User blog comment:Hannif Hussain/Top 15 characters I think can beat Goku (who is not Superman)/@comment-31259708-20160309190923/@comment-31259708-20160310145848

"Bearing in mind that Disgaea's rule is quite literally "The main character of the game in question always wins". Laharl directly points this out- ing-ame- so scaling anyone off one another doesn't work"

And yet adell and rozalin cannonly Lost So we can Say val and his Team was about as strong as him Since Power DOES MATTER. Oh also a good chunk of Disgaea 5 is The main cast getting there A** whooped By stronger character's

More evidince that POWER DOES SOMEWHAT MATTER.

" In an alternate ending mind you, not the "canon" ending since Laharl's D2 game comes after D4 and still clearly has God around. Also God has zero feats so beating any part of him isn't exactly quantifiable and Fear the Great appears to do nothing more than flood the Earth with demons"

Ok so This just proves you haven't watched the ending to  disgaea 4 a promise revisited Where valvatorez both speak's to and then proceed's to cause God pain enough pain for them to go back on there decision.

Fear the great is a system designed to destroy earth when god give's up on it Not To mention its death was stated to easily affected and pierced Several dimisonal barrior's Barrior's That so far only MAO a character who OBLIDERATED A UNIVERSE has Peirced with out help If you say That isn't at least a Planet level feat I Don't know what will convince you.

"A low-end against what exactly?"

everything i've stated so far.

"Valvatorez has no speed or strength feats to speak of outside of attack animations.

From attack's that are Game mechancic's a majority of which are cannon Since you know theve both been mentioned and SHOWN in cutscean.

"Facing Laharl doesn't count because it is a canon rule in Disgaea- the main character will always win in crossovers."

Adell and Killia Vs Axel = Axel win's

Adell and his group Vs Laharl = Laharl Win's

Adell rozalin and her servent Vs Etna = Etna win's

yeah if that isn't enough eveidince to prove power does somewhat matter or at least determination and that the rule you mentioned is Bull ***t well yeah

"What feats does Valvatorez actually have to call it a low-end by comparison?"

Harming God

beating fear the great

Beating asagi who Out right absorbed fear the great

Beating Down people who could "Destroy the netherworld in 7 Day's"

beating down People So hilariously above thoes people it's not even funny

Need i say more?