Talk:Darth Vader vs. Arturia Pendragon/Saber/@comment-25951993-20150715150502/@comment-25951993-20150715153131

Yes but you must understand Shawn, Vader loss, because Doom was just way too powerful. Having a vast amount of Knowladge and Mastery of magic, spells, science, technology and a ton of tricks up his sleeves, Doom makes, Vader's powers and abilities look like child's play. He was clearly going to win from the beginning.

And he was using a different style of studying his opponent. He used a Doombot to get Vader to reveal most of his abilities to Doom, thereby allowing to have an even more one-sided advantage, then he already had.