Talk:Asriel Dreemurr vs. Giegue/@comment-26814804-20160324140856/@comment-26814804-20160710090239

First off, I've gotta continue this conversation tomorrow- it's 4 in the morning.

Second, how is that a plot hole? ASRIEL has 7 SOULS, PSF has 6, and Chara only has the equivilent of 1. Therefore, by UT's standards, ASRIEL and PSF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chara.

Either way, the only reason Chara was able to beat you was because you willingly gave them control by commiting Genocide. Flowey was able to beat you until the SOUL's rebelled. He was only fighting you for fun- to make you suffer. The same reason Ness was able to face Giyigas. The only reason ASRIEL couldn't RESET was because your DETERMINATION was so inconceivably great that you literally couldn't die unless you let yourself, which meant he couldn't control the timeline. You're missunderstanding how UT works. It takes one type of power to control a timeline, and another type to destroy it. LV, AK, and DF are what's important when it comes to destructive capacity. It's DETERMINATION that's important when it comes to the SAVE, LOAD, RESET, and Refusal.

But I gotta go.