Talk:Goku vs Tabuu/@comment-30199286-20161125014739/@comment-3463132-20161125022719

"Master Hand in one shot, who in turn, can fight people like Shulk, Bayonetta, Kirby, etc."

Bearing in mind, these people only have the feats they demonstrate in Smash Bros. And while he can fight them (vague as that is) there is no real occassion when he defeated them. In fact, Master Hand canonically loses almost every fight he gets in- so there's no good reason to consider feats like universal power and FTL speeds as legit feats when his showings are consistantly far less.

And since Master Hand's feats are kinda worthless, all Tabuu has to scale to is what he demonstrates in Subspace Emmisary. It's not even known how strong Tabuu's attacks are since the only times we see him in combat are:

1) Taking down Ganon/Master Hand, the latter of which was clearly fighting at less than max capacity so it's unknown how strong he was.

2) Oneshotting the cast- which isn't even necissarily a firepower feat since it's equally as viable he just has the power to turn them into trophies just like those guns his minions use.

3) When Sonic beats his ass handily. Which also btw proves Sonic is faster than the rest of the cast since only he was capable of beating Tabuu before he could launch the attack- something none of the rest of the cast could do.