Talk:Asriel Dreemurr vs. Giegue/@comment-26814804-20160324140856/@comment-8213668-20160710230517

Monsters having determination is against in-game statements. Alphys giving Undyne some is the best explanation. But, like Chara's thing, it can be just unexplained.

You don't get it. What Asriel wanted to do is a true reset, but he couldn't. What he could do is the same thing as in his Flowey form : doing some save states. He wasn't holding back at all, just like he wasn't holding back in his Omega Flowey form. He just wanted to kill you, and he knew going for save states would be useless.

Chara was talking to the player at the time. By "the absolute", he meant the absolute violence. You'll have to understand something : the LV = Level of Violence plot twist is only in pacifist / neutral route. Not in genocide. So at the time, the player thought he was gaining power, while it was just Frisk becoming more violent. That's Chara's perspective : you're more violent, so you hit harder, and since monsters are weak against hate, they feel more pain. As for the universe busting thing, as i said, it's unexplained, but the human souls is still the best theory : after all, why would genocide Frisk go to Asgore's castle ?