Talk:Archie Sonic VS Shulk/@comment-26187886-20150823180956/@comment-26374068-20150824235012

Actually, he can.

1. Super and Ultra. These are powered up forms, not normal Sonic's abilities, therefore are artificial and can be taken down by Shulk. And also, Shulk resisted attacks that should faze him outta existence, and isn't even that harmed by it. Pretty sure he can survive some attacks from those forms.

2. Speed Hax. Sonic had to use alot of time and effort to reach that, I've already explained this. And even so, he never goes all out unless forced too anyway. Shulk wasn't any slouch either, BTW.

3. Taking away artificial powers is one way. The only way to stop time is by using Chaos Control, and the only way to use it is with a Chaos Emerald, not Archie's normal powers, but the Emerald's artificial powers granted to him. The Visions Shulk has allowed him to know when Sonic was going to use it, and it the True Monado allowed him to take away Chaos Control.

4. Read above.

5. And that required Super Sonic, something Shulk can counter, while base couldn't beat him. Zanza is around Enerjak's power cause he basically did the same things as him. Shulk took out Zanza, Sonic couldn't take out Enerjak without Super Sonic, again, something Shulk can counter.