Talk:Iron Man and War Machine vs Android's 17 and 18/@comment-27190018-20151225184141/@comment-27190018-20151225210752

I'm not sure I follow. The bomb blew up, and Tony was perfectly fine. Armour is armour. If Tony felt everything that happened, his bones should have shattered when he held up a several-ton adamantium sentinel, but they didn't. (His armour was compromised in the latter feat, btw) Even if it "shouldn't happen", it did.

Power scaling can be helpful on occasion, but not here. When Frieza and his sons, or Trunks and Vegeta, were defeated, did they use their planet-destroying attacks? Just because you defeat someone, or break their arm, does not mean that your physical strength or energy output is greater. As an anime, dragon ball's combat runs on a series of attacks of varying strengths, as opposed to western comics. If Vegeta did not use his strongest attacks against the androids, then his loss does not equate to the androids being stronger. The androids may have the power to destroy planets, but the logic you're following does not lead to that conclusion.

Now I won't be a hypocrite and say that Thorbuster dueling Skyfather Thor automatically makes him planet level, but it's more quantifiable than the androids taking on Vegeta due to the nature of the fight; exchanging blow for blow at their full strength. Remember, 17 and 18 were stated to be weaker than 16. 16's ultimate attack (self-destruct bomb notwithstanding) left a massive crater, but did not destroy the planet. That's more quantifiable. How can we assume it was his ultimate attack? Look at the circumstances; he used it as soon as he realized how much of a threat Cell was, and he's a calculated robot as opposed to a fighter like Goku who's only as strong as they need to be.

It all comes down to what you guys consider "planet level", because I'm still new to the term, and frankly I still don't like it. Is it one attack? Is it multiple attacks? I'm sure 17 and 18 can destroy a planet in multiple attacks. The thing is, so can Iron Man.