Talk:Raiden vs. Undyne/@comment-27682253-20160322015234

@saikou

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Chara takes more and more control over the protagonist, even controlling the protagonist's expression (as seen in Flowey nervously demanding Chara to "stop making that creepy face").

^^ quote taken directly from the Undertale Wikia, the Genocide route is the only route Frisk shows any kind of "stregnth" and this is because Chara is taking control of Frisk's body, flowey even mistakes the protagonist for Chara herself in the beginning of the game. Even the "feats" of power frisk displays arent even hers to begin with, its Charas, and theyre not big compared to other universes

Im certain that asgore would've done around the same damage, same with Undyne. I wouldnt even count 1 as damage at all, Frisk did 1 damage to Undyne at the date when she softly hit her, so what? Undyne wasnt even affected. That 1 point wasnt meant to be taken seriously, and its the same with the flowey boss.

I am playing at the fact that Undertale characters are underpowered compared to characters of other Universes with small exeptions, thats it.