Talk:Father vs Apocalypse/@comment-25951993-20170616141209

As much as I am a Marvel and X-men Fan, I don't think Apocalypes can win one Father goes into his Final God Form. He can manipulate energy and matter to their full extant, turning anything into anything at any scale. He can even create any form of force at any magnitude.

Now while it is said that Apocalypse's Celestial Armor can greatly surpass anything in Cosmic plain allowing its wearer to even reach a level on par with the Celestials themselves, Apocalypse usually spends most of his time using his high-tech armor to attempt to conquer the world, rather then improve his skills and unlocking his armor's full potential.