Talk:Mario vs Mickey Mouse/@comment-25421952-20150817223844/@comment-26374068-20150823172750

1. Yet, if we go inside a planet, they're massive. Galaxy enemies have to be sized down in order to actually appear on screen.

2. Your right, cause the Brush would have no effect anyway. And plus, Mario wins.

3. I never remember him using them more than under specific situations or only once. Especially regarding the Brush and Magic Hat. And even so, he never really uses it. And right there, you already gave a reason why Mario wins. Mickey's hardly ever in combat, so Mario knows more about fighting than Mickey ever will.

4. The Pure Hearts only took away the invincibility. Listen to Super Dimentio, he even states "I'm not invincible anymore." He didn't lose power, he lost invincibility, therefore, Paper Mario can still be scaled to harm multiversal beings, which is something Mickey is not. And that's only because of the screen, and technically isn't even universal, as they can still be considered the same universe. At most, that's dimension level. And he's not even destroying it, putting him even lower. And technically he had outside help aswell.

5. It still is much higher. That page essentially proved it. The Star Rod is able to grant any wish the user has, combine that with Tippi making a wish in that Naruto Forums page, and you've got a multiversal, and most likely limitless aswell, Star Rod. Something Mickey could never compete with. He's more durable thanks to multiple feats. He survived a collapsed dimension, punches from a Grand Star powered Giant Bowser, which were already established to be universal and even multiversal, as Bowser himself says he'll conquer EVERY SINGLE CORNER of the universe. And he survived the hypernova in Galaxy aswell. That's 3 feats, and I've got more if you'd like. So it can compete and even trump Mickey messing around with stars, which at most would be large star level, while Mario's still chillen high up at universe+ thanks to all these feats. And if your going into an outlier battle, I only remember him doing basically any of this essentially once, while Mario has plenty of feats that aren't outliers, and basically all of them if that. Physical strength DOES matter, cause Mario can withstand any blow from Mickey, and deliver just as much back. And I've already proven Mario to be around Mickey's travel speed, and you even said he's faster in reaction speed. HE DODGED MFTL+ SPEEDS, WHILE MICKEY'S SITTING DOWN AT FTL! Mickey wouldn't even be able too touch Mario before he does something, if anything it's the other way around, and you talk as though Mario isn't durable enough to survive one attack from Mickey, while he is very much able to. Seriously, this match easily goes to Mario.