Talk:Madara vs Vegeta/@comment-26511837-20150623183923/@comment-32043511-20170901004224

Toneiri was sage mode naruto level, he was moon level. Naruto didn't even use his six paths mode in order to beat him, it took the chakra of a couple hundred shinobi to destroy the moon. Kaguya was capable of destroying one of her dimensions which had natural light, Aka a star. It is a little bit of a high ball, but not unreasonable to assume small star level or large planet level. It's assumed that the minimum powerlevel to destroy a planet is 10,000, Vegeta has a power level of 18,000. Power levels are kind of bullshit, but they help us see how strong characters are in early dbz. The ten tails is easily continental, and because jinchurichi are stronger than their tailed beasts, and because madara not only has the ten tails obsorbed, he also has the god tree, two rennegan, a rennesharingan, and Hashirama's sage mode. He's around planitary. I feel like honestly madara would limbo fuck vegeta, dbz character are ordinary people when they let their gaurd down. If a fat man with a sword cut off a 10 times power vegeta, there is no way Madara couldn't do the same with copies of himself that can't be detected by anyone without a rennegan or six paths sage mode.