Talk:Flowey VS Giygas/@comment-27128326-20160115222351

idk about this one.

Flowey has DETERMINATION, which makes him load or save state. Giygas may be powerful, but he's so powerful that he threatened a whole world, and no amount of attacks could stop him.

I'm gonna be giving this to Flowey since Giygas is too mentally unstable to find a way to make the Souls go against him.

... otherwise, if using Photoshop Flowey technically means using Outside Help due to having to use 6 souls, then Giygas wins.