Talk:Arceus vs Bill Cipher/@comment-27921095-20190630202447/@comment-27921095-20190917102326

Okay.

I still disagree, though. Cipher has no direct feats that show he can even be on Arceus's level. His speed is laughably bad as he was outpaced by humans, and the best on-screen feat he displayed for power was maybe city level.

Also, Arceus is super hax.

But I apologize for coming off as conceited. I genuinely do believe Cipher is one of the most wanked characters in fiction, though