Talk:Bowser VS Frieza/@comment-27822848-20160216205751/@comment-30294856-20161207030619

Is Frieza physically stronger? No! I agree Frieza is likely superior in AP. As for the explosion (likely a Big Bang since it created a new universe) following the black hole in SMG, there's nothing debunking it. Bowser does have MFTL+ reactions in base, but I don't think he has MFTL+ travel speed without a Grand Star. However, you are right that Frieza can move faster. Frieza's attacks can't completely desintegrate enemies above Planet level in durability. Yes, other DBZ/DBS characters do (Goku and Gohan's Kamehameha as seen against Cell, and Beerus' Destruction like shown against Zamasu. Again, Culex is implied to be Universal+ since he was stated to inherit the time of Mario's universe (it is just a statement, but its not much less valid than Old Kai's statements that Beerus and Goku almost destroyed the universe, yet that is widely accepted), so yes, Bowser IS likely Universal. Could he solo DBZ? Obviously not! But could he beat Frieza! Probably. And Dreamy Bowser or Grand Star Bowser would be too unfair (especially Dreamy Bowser). Also, Bowser's hax could take out Frieza too. His durability could help him last long enough to land a hit on him and turn him into brick or stone.

Bowser could also make it more difficult for Frieza by using the Double Cherry. Yes, the clones die in one hit, but since the clones are equal to the original, they have the same MFTL+ reaction so they could see Frieza coming, so he couldn't speedblitz him. Even if Frieza did destroy the first few clones, one of them would have a shot of getting a good hit. Also, he could shrink Frieza with the Minimizer Wand (unlike the Star Rod, this item wasn't stolen, so he could use it). Really, Frieza's best hopes are to stay out of Bowser's way with his speed, or maybe try to incapacitate him like what happened in NSMB (even though he didn't die he was incapacitated), but Frieza can't kill him since none of his attacks can completely destroy all his molecules).

Regardless of who wins, its nowhere near a stomp like many people claim.