Talk:Carnage VS Lucy/@comment-27019676-20180725180502/@comment-31067519-20180727041345

Since when does Carnage ever say he's a blatant mix of human and alien? I know he has a habit of bragging about his shapeshifting skills - hell, he once boasted about knowing 9 million ways to kill someone - but I can't recall him ever saying he's a result of a symbiote bonding with a human being. And even if he did, well, Kasady and the symbiote are literally connected by Kasady's blood; If Lucy tries to separate them on a molecular level, Carnage will have already spawned another symbiote and keep fighting.

And actually, they did use Thor facing another character: Jormungandr, AKA the Midgard Serpent, and a legitimate figure from Norse mythology that Thor comes from to begin with. They deliberately stated that Jormungandr can output at least 272 trillion tons of force, which Thor fought, matched and surpassed no different than Mariko matching and surpassing Lucy in the anime. Jormungandr may not be a true Marvel character, but then again neither is Thor to begin with.

And of course they don't calc the force behind the hits Venom took from Hulk or Bane from Super-Batman; They have literally no way of calcing the force behind those hits. They have an idea of how much force Hulk and Super-Batman were delivering from having done research on Hulk and Superman before, but not every punch delivered by the same character has the same amount of force in it from the same character. For instance, Raiden (Metal Gear) is strong enough to lift and throw a 1,000 ton MG Ray, but he obviously doesn't put that much force into every singe sword swing he uses on guys like Jetstream Sam and Mistral. Likewise, Hulk can lift a 150 billion ton mountain, but we have no way of knowing if that's actually the force he used every time he landed a punch on the Hulkbuster or Venom.

Sorry for the repeated long paragraphs, terrible habit of mine, but you get the picture.