Talk:Goku VS Darkseid/@comment-31550106-20170929230811/@comment-31550106-20180429152214

1. Goku has infinite ki no matter what you say. This is proven when the entire World of Void (an infinite realm) was shaking due to Goku's prescence alone. Since ki is used to amplify all of your stats in Dragon Ball, then Goku can increase his speed without limit. I didn't mean that he was so fast, that time stands still, I wasn't trying to say that.

2. Universe+ is timeline level. If you say that Goku is universe+, then he would actually be FAR stronger than my quintillions of times universal, since quintillions of times universal is still in the 3D ranges, while universal+ is borderline 4D.