Talk:Ness VS Ren Amamiya/@comment-35871513-20190810160520/@comment-39193289-20190921193300

Sorry for the late response,

I did some more research on both, and I found something that I believe sets Ren's victory in stone (yeah I use Ren Amamiya now because it's canon). You said yourself that Ness doesn't use magic, he uses psy attacks. Let us assume that I gave Ness his RNG to make Ren die instantly, cry uncontrollably, etc., whilst giving Ren the Wild Card at the same time.

Chi You.

Chi You is the Ultimate Persona of the Chariot Arcana in Persona 5, so if I were to include the Wild Card, I would be using the Ultimate Persona of each Arcana, barring Vishnu. Chi You is the ultimate counter to Ness. Why? Well, he HEALS when he is struck by psy attacks. He repels physical strikes entirely. And all ailments such as crying, stunning, etc. have a lower chance of hitting him.

Even if we say that moves like PK Fire, Thunder, Freeze etc. are NOT psy attacks, Ren still has Personas that can heal from getting hit by those attacks. So basically, Ness wouldn't be able to hurt him if Ren had Wild Card. PK Starstorm might be an exception tbf.