Talk:Bowser VS Frieza/@comment-27822848-20160216205751/@comment-30294856-20161208024457

Okay, you are right that Old Kai's statements are more likely to be valid than those of Culex, BUT Bowser's AP is not higher than his durability.

Also, Bowser can only create a black hole with the Grand Star, not in base.

As for the Universe destruction feat, yes, the Universe WAS reset, but Bowser was not in tip-top shape after the universe was reset. The reset put everything else except for Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser. A reset is supposed to put everything back in order, but again, Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser were not, a pretty good indication they survived (plus Mario and Luigi were there after the black hole and Big Bang and before the universe was reset, and there's no evidence Rosalina saved him (it turns out Prima Guides are not good sources for info, and even if they were, that only confirms Mario, Luigi, and Peach were protected, not Bowser).

There's no indication SMG or SMG2 is non-canon.

I agree Frieza could escape Bowser's hax because of his MFTL+ speed as Golden Frieza, but he still can't kill him. I still think Bowser could win, although Frieza's speed would make it a difficult battle.