Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-29403514-20170804221053/@comment-5035900-20171112103542

I've been completely silent on this issue and I owe it to all of you to offer an explanation as to why I place Twilight characters on the Blacklist:

So it's no secret that even now, Twilight as a whole is still one of the most reviled series' around and its characters are often regarded as some of the worst ever written. Ripping on the series, its characters, and especially its fans is such a tradition that, no surprise, just about any requests regarding Twilight characters have been either intentional stomps or "worst characters ever" pairings. The former being the most common case, which usually cast Twilight's vampire characters against other more powerful fictional vampires, often done with the intent and tone of "let's see them get completely and utterly destroyed by "real" vampires".

Official Death Battle DOES NOT do those kind of stomps. Thor VS Raiden and Flash VS Quicksilver were two of the biggest stomps in the show's history, but both were done because they were highly requested and somewhat intriguing pairings regarding theme (thunder gods and comic book speedsters respectively), which is nowhere near the same as intentionally setting up a character to lose to show one character's superiority over the other.

Now that alone is pretty irritating, but that's not what I took issue with: it was the latter.

This isn't a fault on the Wiki as a whole, but let's be real: even with a rule that literally tells us to respect characters even if we don't like them, Rule 16 is perhaps the most commonly broken rule on this entire Wiki.

And this goes well beyond the Twilight cast. You have your Patroklos', your DmC Dante's (not Donte. For crying out loud, spell his name right), your Zilla's, your Evolution Goku's (not Noku. What did I just tell you?), your Sonic Boom Sonic's, your Bad Box Art Mega Man's, your Michael Bay Ninja Turtles (which are technically Jonathan Liebesman Ninja Turtles as Michael Bay never directed either of those movies in case you didn't know)... I could go on, but you where I'm going with this. All of them marginalized to the point where trying to have a defense or even a compliment towards any of them tends to get you laughed out of an online chat or forum.

What especially irks me is the tendency (not just on this Wiki, on the web in general) to pit them against each other with the downright spiteful mindset of "these are the worst characters ever conceived, no one likes them, and we should see which one sucks worse... even though they both suck regardless of who wins". In simpler terms: devaluing characters for simply not being ones they like.

And that is the exact opposite mindset of both actual Death Battle and what I wanted for the Fanon Wiki. I want all peoples' characters, favorites or otherwise, to be given a chance, to be looked at objectively, and for none of them to be put down or spat upon for simply existing.

If any of you are about to say "But what about Justin Bieber VS Rebecca Black?" or "What about "Hercule Satan VS Dan Hibiki?", no, none of those are about devaluing anyone. The latter poked fun at the two throughout, especially Dan Hibiki, who was literally intended from a design and story standpoint to be a complete joke (and even then, it was all out of fun), but both were still given their marks for their strengths. As for the former... and I really didn't care for the episode even then... it was with the sole intent to experiment and mix things up, not to put down either person or their fans.

Speaking of JB, you can imagine why even with some real life people being allowed on this Wiki, I still stood by not having him: because who else really wants to use him for anything other than either killing him, having him win, but still degrading him regardless, or killing him and whoever he's fighting. You can try to convince me that someone could work him into a completely objective battle, but really, he and other pop stars would only be put on here just to get some pleasure out of writing out the most gruesome, miserable, pathetic demises for them.

But back to the discussion on hand. This may not come as much as a surprise to some of you, but two of those forementioned marginalized characters (I'll give you a hint: both from Capcom), I actually like, and I can bet I'm not the only one here who does. And I'll bet those two and the rest actually have their fair share of people who, even if they don't like them, are okay with, indifferent towards, or even just tolerant of them. And no, I'm not writing this just because "Oh, someone's match-up upset me" or "Uh, someone's comment about DmC Dante ticked me off". I do have a point.

The point?

MANY (not all) of these marginalized characters are put into VS matches, Death Battle requests, and even some added to the Wiki for the purpose of devaluing and degrading them. To prove to the world that there is nothing good about any of them. That whoever even has the slightest hint of liking them are the lowest form of human and not fit to live (at its worst). And out of all of these characters I just listed, guess who is numero uno:

You guessed it: Twilight characters.

I'm sure this has been a long enough read as is and is basically me rambling and ranting, so I'll finally cut to the chase:

I made the decision to put them on the Blacklist and keep them from being used in battles because I did not want the cancer of characters being degraded to  [exponentially]  grow. I could not bear to see them become the #1 punching bags of the Wiki, which I conceived would lead to even more punching bags being thrown onto here just to degrade them as well. I refused to have that become the mindset of the Wiki and I stand by that decision. And in retrospect, if I had known what would be the fate of nearly all Five Night at Freddy's character, I would have added them to the blacklist as well.

Now I'm not an admin anymore and I really don't have any authority here anymore. Everything I added myself and formerly enforced is now up to both the current admins and administrators and to you, the community.

If you honestly feel differently about this matter and truly believe that Twilight characters could be used here completely and 100% objectively, without any attempts to degrade them or anyone who likes them... then I sincerely wish you the best in that regard and would not object to them being removed from the blacklist.

It is not my say anymore: it is yours. So instead of a poll, I want you all to discuss this.

Adieu.