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All those examples are examples of what's called Plot Induced Stupidty, most VS Debaters know about it. Essentially it's like what you said but it's done so mainly for plot so that it can either be complicated or advanced.

Not a lot of people would take the three examples into consideration since it is quite clear they are better than that. Spongebob's one is for comedic effect, One More Day is really hated and super inconsistent so no one takes it seriously, and Spider-Man himself tends to have PIS.

With MK, it's already considerably weak. Not to mention the characters' losses are PIS as well except their losses are only real scaling they have. This means that if they canonically and consistently lose to people like Stryker or anyone around Stryker (Wall Level) it's likely they are the low tier of their verse.

Note that I still agree that one time inconsistent negative feats are bad but essentially most people know that. The problem is pinpoint which are which and if they are low end outliers or just really bad PIS (like Dr. Stranger & Spider-Man).