Talk:Goku vs The Flash/@comment-26865490-20170519231836/@comment-27019676-20170520172753

^Disagree. Barry once hit with a force that knocked a planet off its axis.

http://imgur.com/dHexgV8

This was with his fight against Spectre.

Hes also stunned Superman

http://utbgeek.com/home/bradu25/public_html/utbgeek/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/tumblr_lvtaddvVUy1r23y1oo1_r5_500.png

And sure, Wally has mastery over the Speed Force but Barry in New 52 against Grodd mastered it perfectly, and kicked his butt in it.

More info on Barry: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/barry-allen-vs-wally-west-past-and-present-rethoug-1846619/

And Hipper Flash has immeasurable speed. He outran the Black Racer, and Jay Garrick said that Death can't go light-speed, yet FLash can so hes pretty darn fast.