Talk:Shinnok vs. Tabuu/@comment-3463132-20160905233444

Will Shinnok's magic be able to overcome Tabuu's subspace?

Probably, everyone can overcome Tabuu's subspace- any given character can harm him.

His respective cutscenes are:

1) Withstanding an attack from Master Hand (who has never demonstrated any impressive destruction feats)

1.5) And his magical chains that were binding the Master Hand were broken just because Ganondorf's flying body hit him

2) Turning people into trophies (which has been anything from a giant hammer hitting someone, to a kick to their head, to a magic arrow-gun hitting them)

3) And Sonic dashing up and smashing his wings (which didn't even require Sonic's super form).

There's almost no reason for Tabuu to be considered strong except pure speculation based on scaling from Master Hand, which is fairly faulty since:

A) We've never seen any decent DC feats from Master Hand- saying he can destroy anything is speculation

B) The only time we see the Master Hand trying to hit Tabuu was when he was clearly weakened and so all we know is he hit him with less than his full power

C) We don't know how Tabuu managed to gain control of Master Hand

and of course, any given combatant can defeat Master Hand- but require special guns and ships to accomplish their mission in Subspace Emmisary.

Tabuu, in my mind, is pretty much the epitome of speculation run amuck.