Talk:Archie Sonic VS Shulk/@comment-27368475-20151229010158/@comment-26333664-20151229023829

"Also the Monado manipulates Ether for visions and reality-warping, something Sonic doesn't have.

So no visions, and nothing for Shulk to manipulate."

This sounds a lot like "Bleach characters don't have chakra so Naruto characters can do so and so"

These are series mechanics that should be presumed equalized to create working crossover conditions imo.

"Add in the speed advantage and even regular Sonic should be capable of taking Shulk with ease."

I don't think regular game Sonic characters are MFTL TBH, could be wrong though. I know next to nothing about Archie Sonic so I'm not touching that.

"Also what Mike said, Alvis remade the planet, not Shulk; and Shulk has never used his power to erase an opponent."

The Monado III is what granted the power and other feats were performed without Alvis' help. Whether or not it was used to erase a specific opponent is irrelevant. The Tsar Bomb was never used to destroy a city by Russia, but Russia could certainly destroy a city with it if they dropped it in one

"Also, how does destroying and remaking the same planet over and over again make you "multi-universal"? That's planet-level stuff there."

It can affect far more than the planet actually

My 2 cents out of DBfanandCritic's request, can't stick around to debate anything in depth though