Talk:Lloyd Irving vs. Kirito/@comment-3463132-20150911213311/@comment-3463132-20150924221729

"Lloyd won because he is faster, stronger, and more experienced"

On what grounds?

Strength: They should be about even in this regard, at best Lloyd can be stated to knock back large creatures, same as Kirito.

Speed: Kirito is faster in gaugable feats.

Experience: Lloyd is not more experienced in fighting than Kirito, Kirito fights in SAO for 2 years; at best Lloyd's adventure takes a few months- and that's stretching it.

"Hax Sorcerer's Ring"

You mean the thing he literally can't/won't use in battle? Where they even mention outright Lloyd can't use it in battle? Hardly that hax.

"You're getting a rematch"

Idc, my problem is the Tales protagonists are mostly peak human at best- Lloyd wouldn't defeat someone who can tank being stabbed with no problem. The moment Lloyd stabs Kirito that "experience" works against him since he's not dealt with that before and Kirito just stabs him back.