Talk:Vegeta vs Bowser/@comment-30294856-20170103235009

Tbh, I can't agree with the reasoning of this. Vegeta has FTL reactions, but Bowser is on par with Mario, who can pilot Starship Mario, which can travel across a universe in 10 seconds. The difference is that Whis, one of the fastests DBS characters, with several passengers, took 3 hours to travel across the universe. So Vegeta can move faster but Bowser has faster reflexes.

Casual planet busting? Bowser has dealt with beings far beyond that. Although Vegeta as SSB has fought Universal beings, Bowser's around that level too. Some of Bowser's greatest feats, such as surviving the destruction and rebirth of the universe, did NOT require assistance from his shell. Although it is an asset, he doesn't really rely on it.

Okay, Bowser's fire wouldn't harm Vegeta, thanks to tanking lava from Magetta. However, although sometimes lava dips can turn him to Dry Bowser, he didn't in Super Mario 3D Land. Also, Bowser survived the surface of a star in Super Mario Galaxy AFTER losing to Mario with no effect. It would take FAR more heat than that to turn him to Dry Bowser.

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta only got that rage boost from seeing Bulma get slapped by Beerus. Beerus was at 10% of his full power, and Vegeta didn't beat the living shit out of him. He did land several hits on him, but Vegeta was NOT at full power. The only reason this could happen is if Bowser killed Bulma. It's possible Bowser could be angered a lot by Vegeta if he killed Bowser Jr. There's no reason to say he would undergo a boost like Vegeta did, but his anger could make him stronger and bigger, since oftentimes his own adrenaline makes him stronger and in some cases bigger.

Really, Vegeta would need to go Super Saiyan Blue to beat Bowser, in BASE form, considering his insane durability. Also, Bowser could turn him to brick or petrify him if he could get a hit on him. If Bowser beat him good enough, he very well could end the fight like that. The difference is Vegeta has literally no way to kill Bowser. Dry Bowser could reform himself if he falls apart, and considering he could survive the destruction and rebith of the universe, Vegeta would have trouble with being able to destroy all of Bowser's body parts. I'm thinking Bowser has a very high chance, although it's possible Vegeta could defeat him but not kill him.