Talk:Shredder vs Dr Robotnik/@comment-24530269-20170828085814/@comment-24530269-20170828111538

So, here's some of my reasons:

And that's why I think Robotnik would win. But I like your fights alot, including this one, too. Can't wait for the next Robotnik fight, with SatAM Robotnik. It's gonna be so cool.
 * 1) Robotnik's Toonforce durability is too insane for the Shredder. The guy survives even the worst beatings without a scratch.
 * 2) Robotnik has two forms that gaurantee his inevitable victory. Super Robotnik gains freeze breath, flight and x-ray and laser vision, and he has just one weak spot, for the rest he's invincible. Shredder wouldn't be able to exploit it due to a lack of prep time. The other is the Supreme High Robotnik who is immortal w/o limit, basically invincible, can warp reality, control life-force and turn invisible, can manipulate the space-time continuum and replicate the Big Bang - plus, he has the power to conquer the universe in one go as was confirmed.
 * 3) Robotnik has way more haxy inventions. He has the Stupidity Ray which makes victims extremely dumb, the Super Supreme Stopper Zapper which turns victims to stone, the Super Shrink Ray which can turn others smaller than an insect and teleport them to wherever Robotnik wants, the Insto-Freeze Cannon which lacks the need of an explanation, the Subatomic Slow Go Beam Weapon which controls molecular motion. But the three most haxy are:
 * The Crane Brain Drainer: A weapon that copies skills, knowledge and abilities. What's it specifically used on in it's debut episode ? Ninjas. What's Shredder primarily ? A ninja.
 * The Portable Portal Transporter: A weapon that can trap people in books or release them from it. Robotnik could just trap Shredder in a book and leave them stuck there, counting as a KO.
 * Robot-Transmogrifier Ray: A pistol that instantly turns victims into Robotnik's robot slaves. What's the best part? The effects are irreversible. Once Shredder is hit, he's done for.