Talk:Bill Cipher vs. Discord/@comment-27921095-20191019152019/@comment-37008226-20191022014902

Ok I'm getting tired of this "stawman" thing you keep bringing up so let me break it down. You keep saying that Bill is Multiversal due to this statement. And I have been saying, that isn't enough to warrant him being Multiversal. How is that a strawman? A strawman is if I deliberately say that your argument is something else than what you are saying, and I haven't been doing that. Jim is the only one to say that the comics aren't canon, Hasbro on the other hand HAS said the comics are canon, so their word should be above Jim's, especially when Jim doesn't even work on the comics.

If you're talking about his home dimension, not a good example, his home dimension is 2D and not even close to Multiversal power. Technically, Bill didn't create the rift, the rift was caused by the portal. Even then, it's only a Universal feat. Again, using Ford's statement to say Bill is Multiversal has one fatal flaw. It doesn't at all indicate that Bill is actually able to destroy the Multiverse, just that he is a threat to it. It's in the same vein that a corrupt government can threaten a country, but that doesn't make the government Country Level. Bill being able to only destroy 1 Universe at a time would still make him a threat to the Multiverse. The statement is simply too vague to warrant a Multiversal rating. I have already said how something being stated to be 5D without any proof of it being so means nothing. So no, he is NOT Multiversal.

The Burden of Proof is on YOU to give evidence of him trancending time, you can't just keep saying it over and over with no proof. Low-Godly regen doesn't help much against a character who doesn't go for kills in character. The difference is Discord has a proven Immeasureable feat and is actually Nigh-Omnipresent, because he exists in all beings who desire chaos.

So, no. Bill is not 2-A, his Low-Godly regen is useless here, he's not Immeasureable unless you have some proof of this being the case, and Discord can end the battle jus as fast if not faster. Honestly I don't think I'm going to convince you of anything since you seem set on this, but the outcome of this battle isn't decided by us. Probably will not respond again since we'll just be going in circles.