Talk:Mario VS Kirby/@comment-26374068-20160319011645/@comment-25620113-20160419035230

^ I think I have an anuyesm from sheer stupidity. Most of your counter argument is it's just a design element. Well tough luck but that doesn't work. The reason people can say Goku is universal is because 1) him and beerus were fighting so fast that we can say they were MFTL as we can see them passing galaxies and 2) his and Beerus' shockwaves were literally destroying the universe. I can easily just go 'oh but those are just design elements these feats mean nothing' No it doesn't work like that. I could even pull this bullshit argument on the Mario galaxy feats as the only thing showing the power of these feats are 'design elements'. If the creator put it in we have to use it even if they are just small details.

Most of being a researcher is noticing these small details. STOP BEING A JACKASS and trying to downplay Kirby when there is enough evidence supporting he is higher than planet.

Also Magolor was stated in game to be a universal threat and the master crown grants UNLIMITED MAGIC so I think he was more than a low-level reality warper. ark Mind created the Mirror world which is stated to be a DIRECT PARALLEL to Kirby's universe making him universe. Marx Soul had the power of Shenron ( the Kirby equvilanti.e. infintie power but just uses it to grant wishes) so even if you use the design element bullsit here it doesn't really matter.