Talk:Son Goku vs. Madoka Kaname/@comment-29853277-20170413124049/@comment-24900075-20170414005721

Strength:

Also, Lifting Strength =/= Striking Strength. Why don't people get this? it doesn't matter how much you can lift, a boxer will still knock you out. Also uh, New DBS feat of SSJ3 Goku punching through King Kai's planet, which is 10x Earth. From a shockwave. A missed punch he stopped.

AP:

Super Perfect Cell is borderline Solar System lets say, then we apply the SSJ3 Multiplier. 4x Super Saiyan 2 (Superior to Super Perfect Cell) and it's 4x Solar System already at least assuming he's had absolutely no growth at all. It's asinine to say he's merely Solar System Level. Now I can stand corrected, but simply having a planet-destroying passive isn't gonna win her anything since even the beginning of Frieza arc had those. And her multidimensional speeds is ALSO, unquantifiable. How do you quantify that? you can't :P

So how is it fair that we use an unquantifiable speed, and it's okay, but Goku? no no no, we must use him from a much weaker time period!

Speed:

Super Saiyan Gotenks went circles around the Earth multiple times in at most 5 minutes casually, WITH naps inbetween. If you can nap, circle a few times, nap more, and circle more, that's infinitely harder and requires more speed than just speeding it. Otherwise, Goku doesn't have any stronger speed feats besides his MUCH MUCH weaker showings from the past arcs.

There's many more but you catch my drift. There's MANY feats that Deathbattle simply glossed over, and using an already flawed and disproven measurement for goku makes no sense. I'm sorry if I sound Bias towards goku, but in reality I just HATE, with a passion, inaccurate stats and assumptions made by others without any more inside-knowledge.

-Sincerely, Akre-Kun

P.S. Sorry for my walls of texts, lots to talk about :(