Talk:Stronger Than They Look Battle Royale/@comment-28021057-20160321062213/@comment-26418719-20160325032524

@Para Against Kirby? Sure, but Archie Super Sonic? Not a chance.

Conceptual being=/=Invincibility. And in this case, it's more Madoka exists inside her own dimension rather than JUST merely being a concept. She does have a physical body, it just exists in another Dimension. While yes, Madoka DID allow Homura to do that, Madoka did have to come out of her Dimension to actually come get Homura. Against Sonic, who can travel between dimensions pretty easily (Hello Chaos Control), it doesn't really mean much. And Sonic does, at least physically wise, outclass Madoka. Ultimate Madoka doesn't have any speed feats to go off of, but she's most certainly not omnipresent. In fact, Ultimate Madoka is mostly featless- all we have to go off of for her is character statements, unlike Sonic whose strength is more clearly defined.

Plus, it seems like both Sonic and Madoka alike have some form of pseudo-immortality or something like, based on what I'm reading. Given my knowledge on both PMMM and the Archie Sonic comics, Madoka has an advantage in range, and she's got more destructive capability. Speed is tough to gauge- Madoka hasn't shown any real speed feats as Ultimate Madoka and Archie Sonic's limit hasn't been explored. Striking strength goes to Sonic (Because Madoka doesn't even use H2H Combat.) and Hax also goes to Sonic (Madoka's single feat of reality-warping came after her wish with Kyubey in the final episode of PMMM, and it's unclear whether or not she can replicate the feat. Sonic, on the other hand, practically deals with reality-warpers every single day in the Archie Universe- I mean, he's rewrote reality and timelines on at least three seperate occasions.). In the end, it all comes down to whether Sonic can close the distance against Madoka. And honestly? I think he can do it. Between his speed and Chaos Control, he has a fairly good chance of getting up close, where Madoka is mostly helpless, due to her weapon of choice being the Bow.