Talk:Chara VS Giratina/@comment-31273976-20170210145939/@comment-32838332-20171022143917

Isn’t Chara just a dead kid that Frisk uses to back up his ideals. I’m kinda confused over the whole thing, because why would Asriel want to keep a blood-thirsty murderer safe? And many of these feats that Chara is said to “have” are just Frisk’s actions. Vulkin’s Lightning, Sans lazorz, Frisk was the one who was dodging all of that stuff (Not to mention that both of those required no split second pro dodging skills, as they both had some sort of indicator to tell you where they would strike, or were just slow. Don’t understand why people think Timelines are the same thing as Universes. The Undertale universe is an extremely small one, if even one. It’s confined to exclusively Earth, from what we are told. Compared to the realm of Pokémon, where gods walk among people, with powers FAAAAAR more dangerous than any laser beam Sans can fire, it is far less dangerous.

Also, you only see damage numbers when you inflict the damage, so why do you think Chara broke the universe? It could easily have been Frisk hallucinating after killing all of those people, and slashing at this scary kid infront of him. Because it’s in his head, he can’t kill him. Chara acts as a mental pathway for Frisk to reset again, not some multiversal super fast kid with a knife.

Even if we take Frisk and Label him as Chara (perhaps after killing all of Hotland/ Core, where you can’t turn back) he would still be primarily a kid with a knife. A kid with a machine gun would have a hard time with Giratina, nevertheless a knife. I don’t think any kid could survive getting shadowballed (minus Ash because Cartoon-force).

Lastly, the main thing about LOVE and damage in Undertale is that it isn’t about “getting more attack” but rather opening up the pathways to hurt people, that are already there. As you become less merciful, your attacks hit harder, as you don’t feel anything for your opposition. This is different from Pokémon, where they have already gone across that boundary, and then they physically get stronger, through the stats system and such.

Chara is either just an idea, or a very weak kid with a knife. Any murder in real life would give Chara a run for his money, as they have already “crossed the line” to level 20.