Talk:Undyne the Undying vs Sans/@comment-31265036-20170717203201/@comment-32797911-20170812195839

Undyne's defense is better without armor than without. Meaning that it protects the soul, or both body and soul. Likely both, because the royal guard would attack both humans and (evil) monsters.

Plus, Sans only defeated Chara with KARMA. If he didn't use KR, he would be defeated in the first try. What ad hominem? You're literally being stupid.

Yes, its official name is KARMA. "KARMA coursing through your veins.  [Neutral, 20-30 KR]"

~Undertale Wiki (If you can't read it, it's "Karma coursing through your veins.)

Asgore is trying to kill humans, of course it would protect the body. Plus you said Karma and Invincibility Frames removal are completely different.

It's called KARMA, and it's proven. See above.

It only affects bad people, that's the whole point of KR.

Sans wouldn't know Undyne the Undying's attack patterns. She didn't die before, and the first attack is... Green Mode. He would get rekt by the spears, and that's WITHOUT his spear to block. She gave the spear to you because she wanted a fair fight. Green Mode doesn't contain the spear normally. AKA Sans would get rekt.