Talk:Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Naruto Uzumaki/@comment-3515785-20150905142252/@comment-26418719-20150916205951

Actually, Ichigo can't strategize- he's got the strategic ability of a pile of bricks- that is to say, NONE AT ALL. Ichigo's 'strategy' is simply to attack whatever's in front of him until it drops. This 'strategy' has almost gotten him killed numerous times. Remember Ulqiorra?

And in this case, it IS going to get him killed.

Like, Seriously. He noted his enemy was goading him into using his Bankai this one time (I can't remember when exactly), and Ichigo himself stated that it was probably a trap. What does he do? ACTIVATE HIS BANKAI ANYWAY. Bleach Characters ARE NOT smart (At least, strategy wise), unless they're called Urahara Kisuke, Mayuri Kurotsuchi or Aizen Sosuke. This includes other 'smart' characters in the series, such as Byakuya and Uryu. The difference here is how well they strategize. Ichigo's plans usually fall apart very quickly (Usually by his own doing), while Naruto's shown himself to be a VERY competent strategist, not to mention far more adaptable than Ichigo. Naruto is going to figure out Ichigo very quickly (Considering Ichigo's Arsenal [or lack thereof]), which is going to render Ichigo's advantages mostly useless.

What you've got to note is that the moon is FAR larger than a Continent. And it's not JUST a hollow shell- there were ALSO the structures built on the moon that had to be cut through (after all, Toneri DID live on the moon, a fact which everybody seems to conveniently forget).

And again, Naruto was missing most of his power. I'd say at least a good 70% was missing, if not more, from Kurama's absence. And even then, he displayed greater power than the Meteorite-busting power that he displayed two years prior in Six Paths Sage Mode. And again, not only did he tank such a blade WITHOUT A SCRATCH, he also forced it back. In short, that's NOWHERE NEAR his limit.

The thing is, though, is that Minato's already extremely fast (casual lightning-timer), and that's prior to him using his Kyuubi Chakra Mode, which boosts him all around WITHOUT teleportation (Which he CAN use in combat.).

While Ichigo may be one of the fastest characters in Bleach, other Bleach Characters (Who aren't really that much smarter) have found ways to work around this. For example, when, in their first fight, Kenpachi actually managed to turn Ichigo's attacks against him.

And again, Naruto's not so much slower he can't keep up- he's easily at the very least massively hypersonic.