Talk:RED vs. Flowey/@comment-25485523-20180805100054/@comment-28815426-20181016024653


 * "You've never played Undertale, do you?"

I have played and finished the True Pacifist run and part of Genocide. I keep up with the game quite consistently and I know a lot about it.
 * "You just said that Flowey has never SAVED or LOADED in any of his fights, even though he does it like every 5 seconds in the boss fight so he could troll you with the same attack"

Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Yes he can save and load, I literally brought that up already, but he has never "destroyed the game" or "replaced a timeline". After you beat him you get called by sans. If he had destroyed or replaced the timeline, this wouldn't have been possible in the first place.

"Also, Flowey literally destroyed the game and recreated it."

No, no he didn't.

"He mimicked Genocide Absolute Chara's feat"

That feat, whether's destroy the timeline or the world, is sketchy at best. You can HEAR wind when talking to Chara later. Not to mention Photoshop Flowey and Chara are two completely different characters.

"then changed the game so that it ONLY consists of him and his SAVE states."

Technically the souls and Frisk are still around so it doesn't only consist of him. Regardless, he doesn't destroy or change the game itself, at the most he changes what's INSIDE the game. He's not some kind of hacker, he can't affect things outside of the game. Even then, he does what? Takes over the save file and moves you to a different area to fight you? Saving/Loading is an in-universe ability that does just that, saves and loads. It doesn't allow one to alter or manipulate the timeline itself, just to go backward to a previous point.