Talk:Undyne Vs Maka Albarn/@comment-27448264-20160601235720/@comment-27448264-20160602003133

The Toy Knife is probably made of soft plastic, like the kind you'd buy at dollar stores. Why it's better than a stick, beats me, but it's probably far from the genuine article, the Real Knife. Empty Gun's a weird case. In-game, it shows you shooting some kind of projectile, hence why it requires really precise aim, so that might be why it beats out the frying pan, unless it's implied Frisk is pistol-whipping them with a real-ass, metal gun,, which, while I can't speak from experience, sounds like it hurts like a motherfucker.

"Cruelty" is a pretty flexible term in the case of Frisk. The monsters in the Ruins can take out sizeable dents from their LV 1 health bar, and the enemies only get more dangerous. From a (biased) monster standpoint, the killing of monsters in what could be self-defense could be cruelty. Sans, someone who's more knowledgeable about the game's meta at large, describes LOVE as a "way of measuring someone's capacity to hurt", so I'm gonna side with his definition mostly because it's presented at the end of the game.

Multiversal Undyne? True. But again, she's only promoted once the set-up into Undyne the Undying which requires an entire, hammy shonen speech (only reduced for the player's convenience) AND what Undyne perceives as "everything's gone to shit" precedents, AKA, the Genocide Run.