Talk:Mario-verse VS Sonic-verse/@comment-24530269-20161212162004/@comment-30294856-20161214020512

I see how Time Eater and Solaris are issues for the Mario-verse, but Dark Gaia and Silver (without Super form)? No! Dark Gaia is at MOST Multi-Solar System, while many of the top tiers of the Mario-verse are Universal+. Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver are also likely Universal+, but I'm pretty sure there's no proofs he can survive outside of existence. Otherwise, how could Sonic even harm him? Also, how could Shadow beat him? Time Eater is Universe level+. I agree with that, but Solaris is not Multiverse level, let alone Multiverse level+. Solaris would destroy all timelines, but there are only implied to be 2 or 3 timelines at the most in the Sonic-verse. As for Zeekeeper, Dreamy Bowser, and Antasma with the Dark Stone, I know on VS Battles Wiki they are Multi-Universe level, but I think they are Multiverse level. Here's why. This is a calculation for Dreamy Bowser's power that I used in a comment below. And I quote: "The Dream Stone is made up of multiple dreams, likely from all the citizens of at least P'ilo Island, if not the whole Mushroom Kingdom. The former would still have it far more than a thousand universes. At the bare minimum of 52 P'ilo citizens assuming they have lived for an average of 32 years (almost certainly much higher). There is 1 leap year for every 4 years as we all know, so multiplying 52 by 8 by 366 for all 8 leap years would get 152,256 universes for the leap years alone. For the other 24 years, we get 455,520 universes. Adding those we get 607,776 universes. And this is the bare minimum. It's likely much higher. Solaris is only Multi-Universal while Dreamy Bowser is Multiversal. Well, Solaris is only omniprescent through a few space-time continuums. Since Dreamy Bowser has the power of hundreds of thousands of universes AT THE VERY LEAST, he could completely obliterate multiple universes at once, including the Past, Present, and Future, obliterating Solaris." Although Solaris would be troubling for most of the Mario-verse, I think Dreamy Bowser, Zeekeeper, and Antasma with the Dark Stone will be too much for him.