Talk:RED Team vs Overwatch (Organization)/@comment-27888871-20170223195304/@comment-27888871-20170310012754

Except, even if he did use dead ringer,  Hanzo's sonic arrow,  Widow's ult (never mind the fact that spy would never be able to get to her in the first place) and Sombra's passive can all track him down, even when invisible. Speaking of, he gets hacked, he's done for. 8 whole seconds of no cloak, no disguise, or dead ringer. Leading to him being hopelessly picked off.

And yes, while I do know that the puff and sting tactic is very lethal, Many heroes outrange him as well. Especially hitscan heroes like McCree. Who can just roll back if he's too close or flashbang the poor motherfucker for a fan combo.

and no, the flash probably wont get deflected since the thing basically explodes the second it's released.

Also, even if spy killed an OW member as a talon agent, he loses the disuise upon attacking. Except maybe if he used the eternal reward but that would make it so that nobody would be fooled in the first place. Meaning he'd lose the main advantage of trickery he had over Overwatch if he cant backstab someone ealy enough which is extremely hard to do when everyone has an eye on everyone else. Meaning there's an even greater chance that he'd be debuffed the fuck out of as soon as he decloaks.

....IMO, this should have just been a fight between the 9 classes and the 10-11 people who are actually affiliated with OW. Including Reyes.