Talk:Goku vs Saitama/@comment-31550106-20170330194427/@comment-3463132-20170829163112

Dunno about literally quadrillions, the universe-destroying was because God ki- not raw physical strength. And otherwise Vegeta even as Super Saiyan Blue died to planetbusting so just casually surviving that is kinda out of the question.

Ironically, despite being called Super, almost the entirety of the new show has been discrediting the scaling people put Goku at:

Dying to planetbusting

Having issues with a lightspeed opponent

Needing ki signatures to lock on for Instant Transmission

Etc.