Talk:Mario VS Goku VS Sonic/@comment-32659985-20180105180820/@comment-32617116-20180105214707

It does. And I go over that in Sonic's bio AND the results. I make it pretty clear that he is multi-universal, too. Here's a quote from the results as to why despite Super/Hyper Sonic's power advantage didn't give him the win.

"Boomstick: Next, was Sonic. His base form was utterly pitiful, with the only person he manages to even MATCH was Mario w/ no Battle Cards or Power-Ups in speed. However, with his Super Form and Hyper Form, he easily outmatched everyone except for Goku in speed. After Mario was taken out (Which could've been done by either, excluding Sonic in his base form) Sonic had a chance at taking out Goku considering Goku was only universe level and universe level+ with Ultra Instinct, but Goku was too fast to get hit. Super and Hyper Sonic were only 965,001,600 times FTL, while Goku is 54,000,000,000,000,000 times FTL. That's a GIGANTIC speed advantage. That, combined with Goku's ability to create ki force fields, instant transmission to teleport, and Ultra Instinct to dodge and react automatically if there's still any doubt Goku wouldn't dodge, as well as Sonic holding back from his full power until the end because of his prevalent cockiness that he always has, Goku was safe.

''Wiz: And you might be thinking "Well, that makes sense I suppose. But Goku would have no chance of actually beating Super/Hyper Sonic, since a universal/universal+ character can't harm a multi-universal character." and that's understandable, but there's more to it. Super forms don't last forever. Through surprise hits and powerful attacks, the emeralds can be knocked out of Sonic, regardless of how he's invulnerable. And super forms require energy. While rings may be game mechanics, the time limit is actually translated in to the story since an official SEGA bio says this. [1]"''

tldr; Goku's defensive abilities (ki force fields/instant transmission/ultra instinct) and his absolutely GIGANTIC speed advantage, as well as Sonic's exploitable weaknesses (The Chaos Emeralds, which supply him with the only means of beating Goku, can be knocked of Sonic's body from a surprise attack/powerful enough hit, and consume lots of energy so once Sonic runs out of energy, the form is lost. And even outside of the Chaos Emeralds, there's still Sonic's whole cockiness thing) made Goku the winner, even if Super/Hyper Sonic has a power advantage.