Talk:Mario-verse VS Sonic-verse/@comment-24530269-20161212162004/@comment-24530269-20161214114351

I disagree.

Want evidence for Silver's existing outside of existence ? Well here you go:

"Proof that Silver can survive outside of the time continuum.

At the end of Sonic '06, Solaris is defeated and an in-universe temporal paradox occurs when Princess Elise extinguishes the Flame of Hope, thereby averting the Day of Disaster. Silver's fate becomes confusing here, because his entire timeline is now apparently prevented from ever happening. Since Silver does turn up again in later games, he obviously hasn't been erased from time; but what his origin story is now, after the events of 06, is never addressed. In Sonic Rivals and Sonic Rivals 2 he still comes from "the future" (the same future as Eggman Nega and Onyx Island), but the actual nature of this future is only hazily specified. In Sonic Colours (DS), he tells Sonic and Tails that "The future's not all stone and buildings... [It's] a lot brighter than this. The sky is blue, and everybody's got a smile.". But in his Sonic Generations profile, we are told that "Silver is a hedgehog who has come from the future to change a ruined planet in his timeline".

http://info.sonicretro.org/Silver_the_Hedgehog

Technically even if Silver can't time travel on his own there was 4 Mario characters and 5 Sonic characters including Silver that survived and all went Super in the end so Team Sonic wins technically. In Rosalina vs Silver watch 8:00 - 10:45 it took Silver 165 seconds to beat Rosalina. Yet in this video 14:30 - 20:25 before Team Mario gone into their invincible forms. Which was 355 seconds...Silver had more than twice the time he needed to defeat Rosalina.

Rosalina can't just reset the universe at the beginning of the total war hoping for an easy victory because she would not only kill off the Sonic characters but the Mario characters as well and Silver would survive anyway. AnimationRewind said she reset the universe as a LAST RESORT.

Hope I helped."

-Adamjensen2030





Also, Mephiles may be around City+ level, but it's marked as "LIKELY higher". Plus, Mephiles' monstrous form is very likely higher. He's also immortal, and in addition, his time travel ability allows him to prevent every advantage Team Mario may get.

Plus, where's your evidence each dream is a seperate universe ?