Talk:Red vs Sans/@comment-26030372-20160219150322/@comment-25760276-20160223234618

Look, I love Undertale. I've seen all three ways to play the game multiple times.

But nobody in Undertale has really ever been shown to move... fast. They're not slow, but they don't move extremely Sanic fast either.

And considering after a long battle he literally falls asleep... I don't even see how it matters. Charizard and Blastoise are able to take out all the bones. Blastoise and Snorlax can tank the attacks. While Sans can... dodge, Venusaur would proove a challenge to him. Pikachu can dodge every attack. Espeon can counter telekinesis.

On the OTHER hand, Sans' bones are unpredictable, and can appear from the ground. Taking into account those speed calcs, Venusaur would give up. Snorlax is a big sleeper and is very open. Espeon is only really good with Sans' telekinesis. Time hax could be a factor in Red's defeat.

On the other OTHER hand, having to go through all those Pokemon would tire out the guy, and while he will stay awake when the opponent tries attacking, Snorlax could keep him asleep.

You guys say Sans stomps, but on my end, while Sans has a good chance, it's fairly even.