Talk:Hoenn Legendary Trio Battle Royale/@comment-27583694-20160228215615

Kyogre honestly wins this no matter how you look at this.

Without Primals/Megas, Air Lock shuts down the weather.

Rayquaza is a bit more interesting, though Rayquaza leads semi-sorta to his own downfall. A standard Rayquaza can't do better than 2HKO Kyogre OR Groudon, and Kyogre wins thanks to natural access to Ice Beam and Sheer Cold. Groudon can't do much to Rayquaza, but he doesn't need to. Kyogre gets an OHKO, and settles it down to the two titans of Land and Sea, in which case, the overcoming weather determines in the likely case. Regardless of weather, Kyogre's access to Ice Beam gives him Super-Effective damage on Groudon, who at best can use Peciple Blades, which can miss, and would hit for the same damage as Ice Beam, or hit Fissure. Odds are, Kyogre wins, simply because Ice Beam is a guaranteed hit, and if rain comes in, Origin Pulse CRUSHES Groudon.

WITH Primals/Megas, Delta Stream shuts the weather down, AND removes Rayquaza's Flying Weaknesses. THIS is important, as Groudon is still X4 weak to Water in this case. Kyogre OHKOs that. Groudon can't even hit Rayquaza well with Delta Stream up, as everything is either immune, resisted to, or not useful regardless. It at best could hope to burn with Fire Blast.

So, Primal Kyogre vs. Mega Rayquaza. Rayquaza's strongest attack in this form, Dragon Ascent, cannot actually OHKO Primal Kyogre. THIS is important, because after Dragon Ascent, Rayquaza takes a drop in both Defenses. Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam, from this point, has a 56.3% chance to OHKO. So, with that being said, the most likely outcome, if using game mechanics, is Kyogre in both stages of the fight.

If we use Lore/Anime, however, Rayquaza wins at default, thanks to being able to stop both of them begin with. So it honestly depends how that goes. Most likely, Kyogre wins.