User blog comment:Fedora Lord Para 348/Defending Death Battle Fanon: A Series by ParaGoomba348/@comment-26363797-20150803203919/@comment-96.255.112.88-20150812015333

@ParaGoomba348

Here's the thing though: Ben may theoretically be able to beat Danny

This isn't theoretical, Ben is more than capable of killing Danny several times over before he has a chance of conceivably getting killed by Danny. I'll quote you part of my earlier comment explaining this: ''The Quick Change Feature would help Ben greatly, he could change into multiple aliens whenever he wants without needing to return to his human form first. Combine that with Protection Against Possession while transformed, and the ability to automatically change into any alien when he is about to be killed (was able to stop, contain, and absorb the energy of a Big Bang, an energy output Danny can't hope to come close replicating)  means that it is actually IMPOSSIBLE for Danny to KILL BEN. ''

 but the Omnitrix isn't just something that keeps him immortal.

I never claimed that Ben was immortal. I only claimed that there is nothing Danny can do to Ben that would actually kill him. There is a difference.

He's not exactly a detective or a strategist, so it's not like he'd immediately use Ghostfreak or Big Chill or any of the aliens that can actually hurt Danny.

He's not bad with strategy. He knows the weakness of all his aliens, and tricked Pierce into taking him do Grandpa Max in the episode Plumbers' Helpers. Give Ben some credit now. It's not like it matters anyway. You, of all people should know that Ben has about 20 different aliens that can hurt Danny. Even more counting the ones that can catch Danny off hard so he can't become intangible as a response. Stop pretending that Danny has only 2 or three aliens to worry about. It wasn't true when you said that the first time, and it isn't true now.

'''As for the Omnitrix cycling through the aliens, it doesn't conveniently turn him into the right alien. It cycles through them. '''

No, it doesn't. Again I addressed this in one of my previous comments. The Omnitrix would change Ben into the alien he needs to survive. It did when he fought Vilgax on Mt. Rushmore, turning him from Diamondhead to Ghostfreak so he wouldn't die in the episode Secrets. The episode is also a great example of Ben turning into multiple aliens before turning human first. The Omnitrix only cycled through multiple aliens in Omniverse because it was containing so much energy. Stop with the downplay, please. You're so bad at it.

The randomness factor makes it too difficult for Ben to win a majority of the time.

What randomness factor? Stop making things up. Even if Ben doesn't get his selected alien, the Quick Change Feature allows him to change into something else, and the Fail-Safe (that thing you're trying so hard to downplay) would keep him alive even if Ben was about to get killed. There is no "randomness factor."

It's extremely difficult to figure out how this fight would actually go for that reason, so I thought about all the different directions the fight could go.

No there isn't. An argument from ignorance is not an acceptable argument.

Ben turns into alien.

Can the alien hurt Danny? (Ben wouldn't know what works on Danny without trying it first) If so, then use it. If not turn into something else. Or the fail-safe would activate as Ben was about to die and turn Ben into a different alien.

You're right in saying there are many ways the fight could go. There are just little to none where Danny would actually win.

'''As for your "The Fenton Thermos wouldn't work on Ghostfreak because he's not a ghost!" technically, the Ghosts in Danny Phantom aren't ghosts either. Their world is a parallel world to ours and the ghosts are just a different species altogether.'''

In the episode Public Enemies, it was stated by Danny's Mom that ghosts are an "odd manifestation of ectoplasmic energy and post-human consciousness' 

Neither Ghostfreak nor Big Chill are made of ectoplasmic energy, and neither Ghostfreak or Big Chill have post human consciousness. And while were at this, Whampire isn't weak to garlic, and Blitzwolfer isn't weak to silver. Try again.

'Plus, like Grn said, Danny far'' outclasses Ghostfreak in terms of capabilities. '''

I agree, but only for speed, not strength. I just put him on the list of "Aliens that can hurt Danny"

'''Also, here's a tip, AWC. Try logging in. It'll give you some credibility.'''

Why? Would me making an account and typing the EXACT same thing somehow make me MORE credible? The fact that you and  Grnmachine1 are typing out comments that trying to disprove on-screen-feats and canon information proves that an account wouldn't make me any more credible or smarter. It might just do the opposite. Considering the standard for evidence around here is so low.