Talk:Red vs Sans/@comment-26865490-20160522021137/@comment-25760276-20160522022312

Oh, and even if what Quant said wasn't true, which it is, Red leaves fainted Pokémon lying in the grass, he's crushed Blue's dream of becoming champion, according to theory he's killed Blue's Raticate, and many other things.

Just the fact that he beats the crap out of animals with no regard for their life makes Red a sinner, in some way. And that's what Undertale and Chara's story is all about.

It isn't about whether the opponent died or was fainted. The fact that Red and Chara cause harm to living creatures without any regard for their live makes them a sinner in some way.

Sans takes those sinful actions and disregard for life, and through Karmic Retribution, he is able to inflict harm on his foe. And taking in consideration what Quant said... That's a lot of harm being inflicted.