Talk:Goku VS Darkseid/@comment-31550106-20170929230811/@comment-27077671-20180430173444

If you have INFINITE SPEED, you move as if time stands still, one. Two, Goku doesn't have infinite ki. Lol, good luck proving that. You're overhyping the void shaking feat by a longshot, and if you keep it up, I can underhype it and say "HE SHOOK INFINITE NOTHING."

If that's your definition of 'universal', then you don't call it 'quintillions of times universal', it's still universal regardless. Besides, by your logic with ki: "Since ki is used to amplify all of your stats in Dragon Ball", and your argument with speed, that's what you are implying. But back on the subject, how you even managed to scale Goku to 'quintillions of times' universal is beyond me.