Talk:Mario-verse VS Sonic-verse/@comment-24530269-20161212162004/@comment-30294856-20161215123308

Ok. Here's why each Dream is a separate Universe. I got this info from Metal Mario, so ask him if you have any more questions about this. I think this should be enough proof though.

"'There are a different amount in each dream world.' This shows there are many, and this is quoted from Dreambert very early in the game.

"The Dream Stone was formed of happy dreams... The Dark Stone, a solid manifestation of nightmares..." Shows they are literally made up of said dream worlds.

Dreambert uses Mario's 'world' in context towards 'universe.' This would mean that each dream world is its own universe. Not enough? In each dream world, there are Luiginary Works. Some of these include stars and even entire constellations that Dreamy Luigi flies into. The space between Earth and the Sun is enormous, and it is made out to look small during these scenes. Also, saying that they are that far apart is not a stretch, as in Giant Battles, Dreamy Luigi jumps into space. So there exists an outer space, which can also be seen during these fights with countless stars in the sky. Then, when Dreamy Luigi jumps to space, an enormous amount of stars are seen in the background. Mario is thrown, and it looks as though he's zooming by countless stars on his way down.

The fact that there exists this much space plus more, it's seriously not a stretch to say the dream worlds are universe-sized. It should also be noted that this is only a part of each dream--Dream's Deep is stated by Dreambert to be the nadir of each dream world, and nadir is the center of a circle. So, there is THIS much space in one area of the circle--not even counting Dream's Deep... Yeah, they really should be universe-sized. I would also like to note off that it's evidently shown throughout the game--especially with Dr. Snoozemore--that Pi'illo Island has a strange sleepy wavelength, making anyone more likely to fall asleep. This means that multiple dream worlds are likely being made every single day. Last part was just a small tidbit. But yeah, this should be a significant reason."

As for earlier, I calculated the bare minimum for the amount of dreams from the people of P'illo Island. The number could be much higher depending on how many residents there truly are, and if the Dream Stone contains the Dreams of the Mushroom Kingdom. On VS Battles Wiki, Dreamy Bowser, Antasma with the Dark Stone, and Zeekeeper are all Multi-Universal, but from the calc I did I think they should be Multiversal.

BTW, Solaris is not Multiversal+. He's only Multi-Universal. There are only implied to be 2 or 3 timelines in the Sonic-verse. If you have any reasons why you think game Solaris is Multiversal, I'd love to know, since I'm working on a bio for Solaris in my Beerus VS Tabuu VS Solaris. Thanks, and have a great day!