Talk:Jasper VS Undyne/@comment-27448264-20151227065543/@comment-27448264-20160116221423

Damn, I think you're starting to convince me. Spear-spam is going to catch up with Jasper eventually, and as you said, the recoil, start-up and cool-down of the Comet Charge can't hope to beat UtU alone.

Sythesizing what we've said here, Jasper stomps Base Undyne, but Undyne the Undying wins without much trouble, in my opinion.

That said, I'll still play Devil's Advocate for Jasper against The Undying, even if she'll still lose:

-Close Combat: Unless Undyne seems intent on stabbing herself, if Jasper moves within close range and just pummels as opposed to "knock away, charge, knock away, charge" she could inflict some reasonable damage on Undyne. Hell, she might even be able to match Undyne's boulder-suplex feat if you consider the strength of Gems relative to Humans and then look at Jasper's muscly build.

-Transformation sequence: Despite Undyne's adoration for the shonen genre, she isn't immune to the tropes. What's stopping Jasper from just killing Undyne while she's delivering her "all our hearts beating as one" speech and melting?