Talk:GT Goku VS Super Goku/@comment-37885699-20190508215737/@comment-31550106-20191006233646

There are many flaws in your arguement

1. Shaking Hell is indeed a Multi-Galaxy level feat, but not for your reason. Universe 7 is actually the size of 3 universes, since Heaven and Hell are their own universe. However, shaking just 1/3 of Universe 7, although it sound universal, isn't the same as destroying it, therefore it's Multi-Galaxy (barely Multi-Galaxy, actually)

2. Where did you get 80000 universes? No one in GT is universal except for Omega Shenron (and people stronger than him of course), and even he isn't universal by himself. The Minus Energy Power Ball is the only thing that's explicitly stated to destroy the universe, and it draws power from the negative emotions of all humans, not his own power. With the size of the universe being 3 times the size of the real life universe, I guess you can say that GT Goku in his Full Power SSJ4 state is universal, but DEFINETELY nowhere NEAR 80000 times

3. Goku's UI isnt an infinite 3D, it's pretty far into 4D

Overall, DB Super Goku needs normal SSJ at most to completely demolish GT Goku. Heck, I bet Base Form Goku could handle him easily