Talk:Sonic vs The Flash/@comment-34065399-20171224012527/@comment-34065392-20171225005108


 * 1) The Negative Judge - You keep stating that Mongul destroyed millions of multiverses, how did he do this exactly? I need some proof. Anyway on to Super Sonic, SS has the power of nigh invulnerability, but can easily be harmed, and with Ultra Sonic, he can also be HARMED, it takes alot of graviton force to penetrate sonic's integrity, but with enough power, Flash should be able to inmost sonic with ease, with enough speed, he can penetrate ANY surface. With Mongul, flash can phase his hand through Mongul, with his invulnerbility or not, phasing means vibrating at the right freqency into any surface, hense Mongul's chest. Flash' speed is limitless, but calculated at about 965 quantillion x speed of light. He can also vibrate faster than any eye can process, making his instantly invisible to Mongul, so before Mongul could even react, flash can easily kill him. Now back to sonic, in his Super form he can fire an attack which is equivelent to Solar Maximus which is the highest potential heat signature of the sun, which is 100 billion degrees Kelvin, which is 6000 x more hot than the sun's core which is 27 million degrees Kelvin. Now I won't lie, this is indeed IMPRESSIVE, but easily manipulated and can be used against him. The Red Death can absorb sonic's power, from the chaos emeralds and potentially have infinite's amount of power, leaving sonic powerless. Now speed isn't everything but as I said before, with enough speed, it can penetrate anything. Lets say Ultra Sonic fires an attack, which is nigh omnipotent, Red Death can absorb HIS power as well, and use it against sonic. Now with flash' infinite mass punch which is not even close to infinite, since everything is made up of matter, and that would basically have the power of the entire omniverse, killing everything, which is impossible. But he can use the IMP to equal the power of a galaxy, which would potentially damage anyone. With Mongul's omnipotence, he still will be harmed by such an attack. There is no potential outcome of Mongul nor Sonic defeating Flash or Red Death, due to their speed, power, and energy absorbtion. Let's pretend for a moment that Sonic launched a Solar Maximus potential attack, and hit flash, it would indeed kill him, and destroy the entire universe, which would include sonic himself, which is basically suicide, so that's why sonic never uses his full power, to avoid potential outcomes like that. With Mega Man, using his *infinite knowledge* he still wouldn't be able to defeat sonic nor red death due to their damage output. You can't debunk me, I will defend any argument.