Talk:Goku VS Arceus/@comment-31172844-20170413124809/@comment-34841753-20180331181832

Mickey,

Creating something =/= destroying it. If 20 people  create a building that means 20 people are buildign level? Lmao no you need one strong bullet from fast gun to kill 20 people in a line. That's Wall/street level feat.

In anime episode of DP Dialga and Palkia were destroying entire Universe. Since we can say that Giratina, Dialga and Palkia are all same: Multi-Galaxy+ level feat. Arceus is above them so Arceus is Universal +( as you said), but this is anime Arceus.

Movie Arceus from Jewel of Life is Planet level.

Game Arceus can be caught by 10 year old

Lore Arceus can be said to be Multiversal +.

I just quick-read about Manga Arceus it's said that he defeats Crystal, Gold and SIlver without much effort.Much effort, so he had like some effort. So, we can clearly say that Manga Arceus is Planet level too.So, Goku beats all Arceus(game,mang and movie) except anime and lore one. Anime one is pretty much difficult to pin point because both are on same tier. Arceus may edge that because he has some hax.