Talk:Ash Ketchum vs Lucy Heartfilia/@comment-26184007-20190605134520/@comment-38254608-20190711023216

So what? You can't simply debunk someone being at that tier by saying "VSBW is unreliable" unless you actually have a counter for it in the first place. And BTW, I found this in the manga. Literally Pokemon can literally use laser and light attacks like Luster Purge,Hyper Beam,Solar Beam and etc.