Talk:Ness VS Frisk/@comment-28493289-20160518202057/@comment-31259708-20160519200601

again I type alot in caps when debating it's usually to enuciate a point i want to get across Sorry

" LV isn't just RPG leveling, as quite clearly established by Sans."

And it's also shown quite clearly by gameplay to raise both DEF And ATK

"It's a mental handicap measured in desire to hurt. Kill more? You become less hesitant to kill, LV goes up, and you're more effective against the emotion and magic-based monster population."

Ok so your telling me the fact that you do both more damage and are able to take more damage from the monster population is just coincidence.

Because i don't think it is

You could also Argue LV increases determination Which Does augment physical stats

And guess what Flowey has.

"Again: LOVE is mental. Not a way of measuring power levels DBZ-style."

LV Raises attack and Defence dou.

"The most sociopathic character in the game (Chara) reaches LV 20 by the end."

And Omega flowey litterally killed a universes by destroying a save file I think that would boost his LV Up a FUCK TON.

"Even Flowey is scared shitless by Chara's misanthropy, so by basic logic, Flowey has less LOVE, six souls or no."

he Destroyed a Save file/timeline as i explained above

And again this was BASE flowey not PHOTOSHOP FLOWEY stop saying just because Chara scared base Flowey that means Photoshop flowey couldn't have more love.

"Photoshop Flowey doesn't gain LOVE because he got a power boost. He's a helluva lot stronger"

But again he destroyed a Universe when he destroyed that save file So he should have gained a hell of alot of EXP.

"but stronk ≠ LV. Papyrus, for example, could probably match Base Undyne or Sans in strength if he applied himself. But because of his complete unwillingness to kill, he likely sits at LV 1."

why is this randomly bold and also

you do realise sans is probably the magically strongest of all the monsters right shown by how meny time's he kills frisk/chara

 <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:19.2px;">" He fucked with the game's files because Flowey, as a character,  lies.  He lies  alot."yes but Save files have NEVER lied before and again flowey is a character who's done countless genocide Runs for shit's and giggles how do we know what LV he is. " Flowey is obviously toying with Frisk the entire fight. He has insta-kill and trapping attacks at his disposal, and can use both at the same time, but chooses not too until the end." tanking Casual multiversal-Universal+ hit's Is stilL Multiversal-Universal+ unless he was holding back an INIFITE amount of his strength. "  Of course Flowey would want to scare Frisk (or on a higher level, the player) by showing them his ridiculously high LOVE. It's a psychological warfare." or again He gained a shit ton of EXP from destroying that save file. i mean that's a possibility because you know save files = timelines/universes.