Talk:Darth Vader vs. Arturia Pendragon/Saber/@comment-110.159.185.99-20150725132255/@comment-25951993-20150727011631

The thing is, people only think Vader was powerful, was when he was in his younger incarnation, when he had all of his limbs, instead of being a limbless, prosthetic handicapped cyborg. But really that isn't the point, as Vader has already trained and modified his fighting style and moves to not only make up for the limits of his new body but also for the limits he had before as Anakin Skywalker.

And Keep in mind, while he isn't the most skilled Force User, he is still one of the most powerful. I'm sure he would probably be truely even more powerful if he had all of his limbs, but really that isn't the case, as we are merely trying to prove if he can crush buildings with his mind.