Talk:Guts VS Jason Voorhees/@comment-26477305-20160424182830

This is wrong.

Wiz: Jason is also strong enough to send humans flying back just by punching them, so his strength surpassed Guts'.

No

No it didn't.

Guts swings his 400 pounds Dragonslayer at speeds faster than eyesight - that's easily wall level+ and that's Golden Age Berserk stuff. Hell, Black Swordsman Age base Guts slices through stone pillars like nothing and kills building sized monsters daily.

Younger Guts also killed 100 men and wasn't really wounded at all. He also throws a massive Apostle.

''' And thanks to Jason's healing factor and superior durability, Guts had no way to put him down for good. '''

Yes

Yes he does

The Dragonslayer can carve straight through his soul. Considering base Guts can survive falling from a great height, hitting trees on the way down, not really. He al so  gets smashed through stone pillars and is pretty much fine.

Boomstick: Jason has built traps for his opponents on many occasions, so his intelligence trumps Guts'.

No it doesn't. Jason doesn't even do anything else and he's traps aren't even that complex. Guts has fought strong humans/demons for a massive portion of his life. He's known for being a master at combat and very good at strategy.

''' Guts may have held the speed advantage, but Jason's teleportation abilities allowed him to dodge whatever Guts had to throw at him. '''

No

No it wouldn't

The teleportation isn't remotely useful in combat. Jason is like barely supersonic via scaling to him barely keeping up with Freddy who bullet timed. In comparison

https://web.archive.org/web/20160216165508/http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26233 Wyald has a Mach 22 feat. Guts literally fodderized and blitzes him - there is no comparison.

''' Also, the Berserker Armor isn't really that much of a game changer. As I said, it just holds Guts together; it doesn't actually heal him. Plus, it forces Guts to succumb to his inner demons and lose all sense of morality and restraint. On the other hand, Jason's strength and durability increase as Uber Jason. '''

Do you even know what you're talking about? Guts' stats skyrocket in the armor. He dodges fucking lightning and was unfazed in the middle of a multi city-block level explosion. There is no contest.

Uber Jason isn't even that strong. He's like barely building level as strong bullets still harm him. Sure, it'll be more of a hard fight...for base Guts, but he would still win fairly easily.

So yeah Guts should've stomped