Talk:Exodia VS Juggernaut/@comment-97641-20170701132452/@comment-97641-20170812161827

"Oh also You say that Horkthy and Exodia are of simaler power because there duel winners? (despite horkthys card never appearing in the anime) However Exodia's effect can still be negated while its in the hand via mind drain."

Exodia isn't summoned at this time; the same way Vanity's Fiend can stop Horakthy by stopping her summoning. They are duel winners only AFTER their summoning; heck the Exodia limbs are weak monsters individually.