Talk:Vegeta vs Darkseid/@comment-24182548-20170217115050

Okay, continuing from the discussion we had:

1. Goku did not almost destroy the universe. The battle could have released enough power to destroy the universe, not Goku and Beerus themselves.

2.Goku only beats certain versions of Superman and most versions of Darkseid are as strong as, if not stronger, than Superman.

3. Base Vegeta is NOWHERE NEAR universal. In sayian beyond god, Vegeta is roughly solar system. Pretty strong, yes, but not at universal. SSB is universal, but being universal does not mean you can immediately destroy the universe *snap fingers* like that. Goku Black wasn't cutting through dimensions, rather space-time, so there's that.

4. Base Darkseid is universal and his strongest is multiverse, meaning at his most powerful, he stomps Vegeta.