Talk:Ash Ketchum vs. Red/@comment-27825376-20151223134850/@comment-27825376-20160205102543

Ok,I get that,but Red still might win, you know.Dragon Claw may be better with Tough Claws(like I said before that comment)and not bringing in stats is pretty stupid if you ask me.But even so,Red's Charizard can in fact deal loads of heavy damage to Greninja