Talk:Giorno Giovanna VS Misogi Kumagawa/@comment-27065392-20160720154229

well, i have a few points about this...

A grade light speed is a scalig from Silver chariot and Handged man.

Handged man doesn't count he have an ability called Light Manifestation who was his power

silver chariot is the best example, because he is really fast, i can compared him to Xmen's Quicksilver based in his feats, probably  “merely” relativistic 1/10 speed of light

but yeah, GER is much more faster than kumagawa (but no light speed, that was a exageration), basically fighting speed >>>>>  travel speed in stand's case, t hey punching much faster than moving.

plus all fictions is superior than the GER's power, GER keeps the Cause, Removes the Effect, basically turn anything back to point zero (plus It is shown that their range of influence reaches the point that GER pay attention)

GER turns stuff to zero, while All Fiction turns it into empty set (remember the colors feat) basically he remove the colors from existence, turning into empty

plus All-Fiction is a Minus (Yes, he can and have used this "logic" to beat someone with a Stand/GER-like power before like Mogura Kugurugi)

you know, probably Misogi can turn Stands existence to empty, or turn GER power effects to empty too, plus non-fiction recovers thing erased with all fictions (maybe he can use this for GER powers who have similar effects than all fiction)