Talk:Shadow the Hedgehog vs Asriel Dreemurr/@comment-27743658-20160424000828/@comment-27530968-20160424052454

Asriel actually has Infinite Atk and Infinite Def (check his stats lol), making him infinitely above Omega Flowey via powerscaling and the fact that  he created and destroyed like a dozen timelines,  who is stronger than Chara by both feats and statements (After you kill Toriel in the genocide route, Flowey explicitly states his plan to surpass Chara through the six human souls, and he also is able to casually destroy the game like Chara did)

It's also supported by the fact that Frisk literally couldn't do anything to Asriel besides struggle / try and survive. Anything, until he managed to make Asriel remember who he was.