Talk:Kirito vs. Shiroe/@comment-25275196-20161007065545/@comment-26418719-20161007225256

There are multiple assumptions you're making. One: That Shiroe can burst Thorn Bind Hostage on his own. This is unlikely as it would give Enchanters much greater DPS than the other supportive classes, which is explicitly stated against as, in Elder Tale, Enchanters' DPS is stated to be extremely low (Amongst the lowest in the game), which is why Enchanters were so unpopular in the first place: They absolutely sucked at soloing. Two: That Thorn Bind Hostage would immobilize Kirito. This is also unlikely, as amongst Elder Tale, Thorn Bind Hostage only ever immobilized Low-level players, and this was when Shiroe casted it. Contrary to popular belief, it actually doesn't immobilize foes. Three: We don't have a definite duration for Thorn Bind Hostage.

As for how fast Kirito's health replenishes, we don't know what it would be like with Kirito at level 96 (As it wasn't shown past Silica's chapter/episode), but in this episode (In which Kirito is level 78, with 14500 HP), his Battle Healing replenished 600 HP every 10 seconds passively. Also of note is that Kirito can OHK Shiroe with Starburst Stream. Kirito does on hit, on average, about 1400 damage per hit, taking the stats of both his swords (Which he gains the bonuses of both due to his Dual Blades Extra Skill), which makes Starburst Stream's total damage 1400*16=22400: enough to kill Shiroe... twice over, in fact, to say nothing of The Eclipse. Thorn Bind Hostage is also likely not enough to immobilize Kirito due to his high strength and agility stats (At least 100 in both, and that's his equipment alone. And that's assuming Kirito just doesn't flat-out dodge)... and THAT's if we assume Kirito's using the Elucidator and Dark Repulsor in base, not the +40 they were upgraded to by the time Kirito fought Heathcliff (which we never got solid stats for). Another issue is Kirito destroying Shiroe's equipment: specifically, the Arms Blast Outside System Skill would prove to be a very problematic issue for Shiroe as Kirito would likely destroy his staff.