Talk:Marx VS Beerus/@comment-30408599-20170107154450/@comment-31259708-20170107161550

" Hes not Planet at most, he's MSS at his least."

Well there are some people Who don't believe MSS Kirby like at all

Like me

"Plus, Marx could be universal because: Not universal
 * 1) He fought evenly with Kirby"

 "2.His second defeat caused an entire dimension to collapse, from what I've heard."

 Not even close to universal Unless you can prove that dimension is Universe sized