Talk:Infernape vs Greninja/@comment-34864871-20180301220250/@comment-26184007-20180924053043

I think you're describing Ash's Infernape and Greninja's feats. If this is generic Infernape and Greninja, the best method is to use probability with no, EVs, TMs or any unnaturally learned moves or abilities. Technically, Greninja, unless if Infernape mach punches.