Talk:Shulk vs Sora/@comment-3463132-20150722050644/@comment-3463132-20151012015121

So firstly, I accept Shulk with Monado 3 beats Sora- but I've got to answer some of this apparently since I was lovingly called out in chat over it.

No visions- WHAT?

It's very simple, Sora doesn't have Ether in him, nor does he have any sort of special element compatible with Ether to even try to compare it. So Shulk can't see Sora in visions- Sora doesn't have the required element that Shulk requires to use said visions. Sora has about as much Ether in him as he does Life Fibers from Kill la Kill.

So how fast is Shulk anyways? I see a lot of words about Shulk being fast with no one actual number in there and feats with no information beyond "Shulk is able to keep up". Do tell: When does Shulk move so fast the universe stands still? When does Shulk block bullets? When does Shulk move so fast he teleports?

And your counter to time stops, gravity manipulation, and other things was... what again? Dodging a fireball? Since when did dodging projectiles protect your from an effect that spawns on you?

Sora has to hit enemies to regain MP

In Kingdom Hearts 1 sure, luckily there's this niche title after it called Kingdom Hearts 2 where it just recharges over time. Or he can be in one of his Drive Forms and literally not run out of magic for a while.

'''tl;dr Shulk can dodge Soras attacks. Shulk can keep up with speed and reflexes/Ground Game dominant, while Sora is Air Game dominant. Shulk can use Monado I and can always react to a vision no matter how close it is.'''

You in no way proved Shulk can dodge Sora's attacks.

You in no way proved Shulk can keep up with Sora's speed.

Shulk can't react to a vision he doesn't have, Sora has no Ether- Ether is what Shulk follows for his visions.

Tell me again how you destroyed my arguments? "With dynamite?"