Talk:Kalos Starter Pokemon Battle Royale/@comment-12846745-20150405161400/@comment-26418719-20160811041420

@Thunderbeam707 I've run the calculations, and no. Chesnaught's Attack isn't enough to OHKO Greninja without a Supereffective Hit. You're overestimating Chesnaught's bulk. Let me run the calcs by you:

0 SpA Protean Greninja Extrasensory vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Chesnaught: 224-266 (70.6 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

So Greninja CAN, beyond all doubt, 2HKO Chesnaught with Extrasensory. On the flipside, here is the ABSOLUTE BEST Chesnaught can do against Greninja, assuming he uses it right after Extrasensory:

0 Atk Chesnaught Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 190-225 (66.6 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Chesnaught CANNOT OHKO Greninja without a supereffective hit. Greninja may be a glass cannon, but that's when you compare it to competitive 'mons, who, for the most part, have MUCH greater offenses than Chesnaught does. Bulk Up would not work because Greninja is faster and 2HKOs Chesnaught, making the setup for nothing. Belly Drum does not work because Chesnaught won't have enough HP to use it after a SINGLE Extrasensory hit. Chesnaught CANNOT set up on Greninja. You seem to think that it can.