Talk:Asriel Dreemurr vs Bill Cipher/@comment-29403514-20170718152701/@comment-26814804-20170718204505

We know Chara is stronger than Frisk because, as they explicitly tell you, they've stolen Frisk's power, leaving them virtually helpless. So yes, parasite is stronger than Superman after he's stolen his power, but that doesn't mean he's stronger than Supes originally was.

But even without that, he's infinitely stronger than Photoshop Flowey, which still makes him multiversal.