Talk:Mario-verse VS Sonic-verse/@comment-30294856-20161209021816/@comment-30294856-20161231103517

Again, that is evidence for Solaris being Multi-Universal, but not Multiversal. He could consume the Mario universes, but not as easily as he could with the Sonic timelines. I'm well aware he has temporal omniprescence. I never said Eggman didn't know what he was talking about. Assuming he can consume ALL timelines even when in another multiverse is not very valid. If it has many more timelines, it would take much longer to do so.

If Bowser used the Dream Stone, Solaris could be taken out. He'd be able to keep the Dream Stone with him, although he would be scattered by the Mario characters.

I wasn't going to mention the Star Rod. Although Paper Mario can be used (Miyamoto confirmed Mario has no canon), I know it isn't used in this Death Battle. The Star Rod from Mario Party 8 could scale to Universe level for harming Bowser, but you're right that it hasn't shown many capabilities yet. As for the one in Paper Mario, it can grant any wish. It said so IN THE GAME. How powerful it is depends on what you wish for.

He did still note that he could be possibly higher. Just saying.

As for CFC, well, their research can be better than Screwattack's. Tbh, I agree with Donkey Kong VS Knuckles (only because Hyper Knuckles was not included), and I disagree with Luigi VS Tails and ESPECIALLY Bowser VS Ganon.

The moment Bowser eats the Dream Stone, Bowser would be more than powerful enough to destroy Solaris (by wiping out multiple timelines) and also he could fight him via Time Travel (Bowser has it). I know. I was talking about Dreamy Bowser against Alf-layla-wa-layla, not Solaris.

Dreamy Bowser could follow the Time Eater. Zeekeeper is similarly powerful to Dreamy Bowser, so he should have little to no problem with most of the Sonic characters.

Okay, it's not confirmed, but it is implied he can Time Travel. BTW to pilot the Time Eater, Eggman will need Classic Eggman to help him.

Okay, they could have a chance without them (Mario can time travel too, I don't know if Luigi can), but Solaris still would be a lot of trouble (unless Mario and Bowser travel to the past and future). Dreamy Bowser's time travel could help him escape.

Thanks! I know that some Mario and Sonic fans are not civiil at all like you and I are.

Oh. He could try that, but he still could be beaten by the Mario-verse top tiers. Bowser could stop the Time Eater too. If Eggman and Classic Eggman are gone, nobody can pilot the Time Eater. Dreamy Bowser could follow suit and destroy the Time Eater easily.

I still say the Mario-verse likely wins, but without the three "god tiers", Solaris could help the Sonic-verse win (unless you scale Mario and Luigi to Dreamy Bowser)