Talk:Exodia VS Juggernaut/@comment-97641-20170701132452/@comment-97641-20170809211638

"Ones a physical being The other is a hologram." Not all the time. When Tristan was turned into a monster and destroyed; he wasn't just a hologram that disappeared; he was literally sent to the underworld. There are plenty of other examples.

"You'd think the Villains would use its power for there Villanous plans and not the Egyptian gods" 1; Seeker was a villain, Kaiba's dad was a villain, Gecko was a villain. So yes they did use Exodia. 2; Exodia is hard to summon compared to the god cards. Winning is winning either way.

"He could have casually Beaten everybody." Well that would be boring; this is why Superman fights are not One Punch Man fights; OPM points out how boring it would be to just one shot characters. And fwi; Zorc does defeat everyone else.

"You were using the English dub to try and say exodia wasn't at full power."

No I wasn't.

"Meaning it embodies Exodia."

Your point? The Egyptian Gods are embodiments of Hora; doesn't make Hora herself weak. Beelzeus of the Diabolic Dragons has traits of invincibility despite the fact that he can be composed of ordinary moral monsters.

"Incarnate is the SAME COLOR."

Incarnate has brighter colors, his chest and fingers have green outlines and his 'beard' is not blue. Either way, the forms are clearly different in their titles, abilities and summoning; Incarnate is tribute summoned while Forbidden is activated from the hand.

"It has the exact same trates as the forbidden one Aside from not insta winning against Zorc"

If you actually looked at the battle; you saw that Shimon was quickly weakening from the strain of the duel. This is why Exodia damaged Zorc initially, only to do no damage to him at the end; Shimon lost that much power.

This isn't Exodia at his full potential

This is an Exodia who's powers are limited by the powers of a human soul and a magical scepter.

This fact is clearly stated multiple times.

There is no reason to cite this nerfed Exodia.

Exodia can indeed be depicted with limitations

but never at his full power as The Forbidden One ​Only when Exodia is improperly summoned, is in another form or is bound by a spell is he weakened.

Hora was summoned properly and was not bound by Atem's soul.