Talk:Usagi Tsukino vs Madoka Kaname/@comment-27789707-20160225145816/@comment-794213-20160301030018

"Power: Usagi is Universal+ in Canon, Multiversal+ in Composite (Which DB tends to do). Madoak is only Universal. There is NOTHING suggesting she is actually multiveresal. She killed all the witches specifiically with her own ands, going to each Magical Girl dying individually and taking their grief. We SEE this. Regardless, Composite Usagi is still above multiversal."

Madoka IS Multiversal. Like I said, in Puella Magi Homura Tamura, it was explicitly stated she affected and recreated an infinite amount of universes. Which is multiversal.

Not to mention that giving Usagi a composite wouldn't be fair at all because Madoka doesn't have any real non-canon appearances.

"Speed: Usagi is Billions of Times Lightspeed and as a degree of spacetime transcendence. Madoka has....not really any relevant speed feats.Some claim that Madoka has Omnipresence but I have seen no evidence of that."

Besides being a concept? Besides essentially being hope? Besides the fact that Kyubey pretty much outright states that she is?

"Abstract: Both are Abstract. Madoka is a concept in herself while Usagi is fused with the concept of Cosmos/Lambda Power"

Which makes Madoka an outright abstract being not on this plane of existence. Usagi still has a connection to the physical world; Madoka does not.

"Versatility: Usagi is FAR FAR More Versatile."

Means nothing in this fight lol

"Conceptual Manipualtion: Both have it"

Yep.

"Regeneration: Madoka has shown none of it. Lambda Power means Usagi can regenerate from literal nothingness"

Actually Madoka DOES have it. Remember the Soul Gem thing? As long as her Soul Gem is intact, she doesn't die, and can regenerate from any wound.

...Except she doesn't have a Soul Gem but because she's still a Magical Girl she actually should have that same regeneration lol

"Experience: One of these two has spent many years fighting against opponents her equal. It's not Madoka"

You're right. She didn't spend MANY YEARS fighting her equal - she spent eternity fighting her own witch.

"Usagi has every conceivable advantage. This fight is a stomp. If Usagi wanted she could channel information and power through time using the Golden Crystal. Usagi destroyed Chaos, an abstract concept more powerful then Madoka in one blast in her Lambda Form. She has two stronger forms."

Actually no lol. Madoka has every single advantage. And no, Chaos is not more powerful than Madoka. Madoka could literally one-shot Usagi and the rest of the Multiverse.