Talk:Darth Vader vs. Arturia Pendragon/Saber/@comment-4450205-20151018072738/@comment-27583694-20160122222934

Well, the force isn't magical, anyways. Also, just so you are aware, the only magic that can actually truly harm Arturia has to be ranked A+ or better. Which is basically only the strongest Casters and Gods. If the Force were Magic, it's probably only about an A- in terms of Fate, so Saber would only take the most minimal of damage from. Again, though, the force is Biological.

If Arturia is limited by her class summoning, Vader will win, because Arturia can only use so much magic before she'd drain her Master's magic supply, and the fact that Vader could actually beat Arturia by hax locating the Master, and killing them instead. If this is a fight against the Heroic Spirit, however, Arturia without limits, then Arturia wins via superior speed, durability, range, and no limit to how much magic she can use.