Talk:Flowey vs Monika/@comment-665531-20180528201128

Advantages Flowey: SOUL targeting attacks. Projectile Spam. Many weird attack options. Far superior traditional speed. Actual durability without other abilities. Deeper understanding of their own abilities. Monika: Can manipulate the game script. Can retroactively change reality. Greater fourth wall awareness. Memory and Mind manipulation. Able to exist without a physical form. Pauses time.

Thoughts - Monika is likely more powerful in theory. Her Save/Load abilities frankly are a notch above Flowey's, her time and reality manipulation is more thorough, and she harder to completely wipe out. She might even become more OP if she can figure out Flowey's abilities. Perhaps she could alter the SOULs Flowey is using to turn them against him, like a more malevolent Frisk? In any case, I have trouble seeing her losing this fight.