Board Thread:Wiki Management/@comment-27150398-20180127073403/@comment-29403514-20180127164720

Sadly, I do agree with all of the points above. A lot of the interactions with certain users have shown the naivety behind them. The "debates" are hardly what I would call a debate. Most of them seem to start off with a discussion on the topic, but it changes drastically real quick at times to where the insulting gets out of hand. The slander after debates especially has become a problem with people saying "DeviantArt Tier Debater", "8 year old shitposter tactics", etc.

It's not even just the new users. There are legitimately just some older users who are being provocative with their remarks just because they don't like the newer ones. If anything, trying to identify the problem and not dealing with it professionally while you say someone is the reason a site went downhill only causes more drama. The fact it isn't a one time thing and a recurring issue only makes it case and point.

Maybe the issues involving a debate might not seem like that big of a deal, but it's pretty obvious there's a disconnect. Older users don't like the new users because they think they're dragging down the DBF in their view. Newer users have problems with the older users with how they approach them with the rough attitude. The only reason the DBF Discord would be kept around would be for the various features it offers compared to chat.

I'm not the most active on the DBF Discord, but I've gone on to look at least to see what goes on just to see something new. People start being incredibly toxic and won't let things go despite it being done with. Current chat might not be as active as the Discord, but it's still because the Discord was advertised in the place of chat (and you could check extended message history). The thing is, if anyone is just flaming or spamming in chat, you simply chat ban them. If it becomes something worse, you just I.P. ban them for abusing multiple accounts. Discord doesn't have that workaround which is why anyone can troll on it sadly. Anyone can seem like a new user if they really want to. Maybe this might just seem like a repeat of already noted points, but I still think that is because my opinion on the Discord is similar to others.