Talk:Son Goku vs. Madoka Kaname/@comment-33383995-20180122124244

All credits to Gokuiscool144

http://versus-stats-for-official-and-fan-characters.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:508#22

http://versus-stats-for-official-and-fan-characters.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:508#21

http://versus-stats-for-official-and-fan-characters.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:508#20

He gave me permission as well.

So since seb think Madoka>>>Goku...well, i think i will prove it.

Please read over everything.

Most important scan (s) probably:      

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/KbiTz6hLzmd 

''^^ Every single Dragon Ball game is part of DBH. All statements and feats scale to DBH.''

Attack potency stuff: 2-A  

DBS

https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN

"Many different futures are created over the smallest things" [Shown when Beerus created another time ring when he killed Zamasu]

DBO

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/DragonBallOnline

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBO has "Seemingly infinite timelines"

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBX

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/DqCgfUtHyC7

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''In the comments, there is a scan that says "History can take up an infinite number of paths/possibilities." Now, a few arguments have been given that the possibilities/timelines/paths don't exist but in the original scan, '''16 implies the possibilities already have timelines/ already exist. [This by extenstion, backs up Kai of times statement in DBH since again, the games are connected]'

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/SfQYe9MSYtq

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">"Infinite history!"

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/MzUa2EfhKMA?fscid=z12gsv2pytuewpjvx23dyhcxhmrqtfbxv04.1513366312015095

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''^Symbolizing Infinite history. Basically confirms history is infinite.''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/764igghqPB9

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Chronoa is 4-D as mentioned before. In a previous thread, I gave the scan for Dark Kid Buu destroying the timeline, the feat was going to be accepted but the thread died out, no one replied and it was closed for no reason. This would make Demigra's base 2-C BTW

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/idfZHzJ5SFK

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''Toki-Toki is the embodiment of time. And remember that Demigra absorbed him. Since time is infinite, he would have gained infinite power. Demigra prior to this was already 4-D via being above Dark Kid Buu and Chronoa. Dark Kid Buu who destroyed a timeline, and Chronoa who stated she could erase Trunks' timeline. So that would make him Infinite 4-D or Multiversal+''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/VbFi9shiQnt

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''Zamasu said God Ki is a different level of existence. Zamasu also senses God Ki within the Future Warrior ''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/imvRVnNmYYP

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">After absorbing the egg, Mira states he has 'limitless power. He was also going to destroy the entire multiverse, and even the crack of time. '

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/diQUfSxzaq3

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''Towa states that with the egg, she could rule over all of time and all of space which is infinite. Remember that the egg in the end gave Mira Limitless power. He also gained a true infinity sign, which represents time being infinite. This is evident by the "Infinite history" scan shown above. He was infinitely above the Demigra the first Future Warrior fought so :^) you know what that means.''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBH

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/DhasYtKT4Wo

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">The possibilities do exist [Remember that Xenoverse is connected to DBH's continuity (refer to the very first link) so the statement of an infinite paths in DBX stands for DBH]

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/FekGzaKNCwP

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">In DBH, the world of void does have time and space as it is inside the timelines and encompasses infinite time-space. So that should be infinite 4-D

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/8XwdoriREcK

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Demigra summoned and threw timelines which all have the WOV in them.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/XKEw27n9Y5G

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBF

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/dKcxz12gHo2

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Shenron fused all dimensions into one.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/73hpQzJoRkP

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Beerus created the world. It was stated it would need a power that rivals a God of Destruction to beat the final villain. After the 5 people maxi fusion, and FUSING with '''ALL of TIME AND SPACE [Infinite], and Beerus and Whis secretly lending a portion of their energy, they rivaled Beerus. Even then, Beerus was stronger. When they say all of time and space, it's from all throughout histroy. And as shown, history is infinite.'''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">This would give the Future Warrior, Demigra, TB Bardock, Mira, Towa [With the egg] and Xenoverse Goku 2-A

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-top:0px!important;">This would be for higher dimensional

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Most important scan (s) probably:       

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/KbiTz6hLzmd  

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''^^ Every single Dragon Ball game is part of DBH. All statements and feats scale to DBH.''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/UHg9rWVSh2M

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Xenoverse Goku knows Cooler and slug. As well as everyone he has faced across the games, movies, t.v specials etc. So again, everything he has done scales.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">High 2-A stuff

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/7q6v6etgwLU

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''The Majin Time pattroler is probably an Extradimensional being, this would scale to the other patrollers as well since they would be equal. The offical definition for extradimensional is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_being "<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">An  extradimensional being<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;"> or intelligence (also  intra-dimensional<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-synonyms_1-0" style="font-size:11.2px;line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">[1] <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;"> and  other-dimensional<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-synonyms_1-1" style="font-size:11.2px;line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">[1] <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">) is a type of theoretical or a real entity in a  dimension<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;"> beyond our own. Such beings are common in science fiction, fantasy and the supernatural." ''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/35644/do-we-live-in-a-world-with-4-or-more-dimension

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">We already live in a dimension compossed of 3 spatial and 1 temporal+1 for a dimension beyond our own would be 5-D

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">https://imgur.com/a/td8Nz 

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;">The "Debunk" for this was that he probably meant that he is just from another universe because extradimensional means another universe (I chuckled at that lol. It's refuted in the definition for extradimensional above). But no lol, via the link above he did not mean "Extraterristrial" (Which is the actual definition for another universe lmao) ''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://www.allaboutscience.org/extraterrestrial-origin-of-life-faq.htm

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">^What an extraterrestrial is defined as 

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/28cvJzPDiER

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''The CoT is a space/dimension beyond the space-time of the infinite multiverse, and it itself contains the infinite timelines and is connected to the time nest despite being a seperate dimension. To me, and others this would be considered the 5th dimension as it is a dimension beyond the space-time of the infinite 4th.''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/MGfYmHiZCv2

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''The time nest itself is the 4th dimension and Toki-Toki embodies it [Remember that Demigra absorbed him :^)]. There only exists 1 time nest throughout all of existence since it contains all the timelines in existence (Infinite. Unless you want to tell me infinite loops of infinite timelines then go ahead, i'll be all for it)''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">And you all know the Demigra stuff with him destroying everything so you don't really need the scans for that.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/gtToMYtU2vX

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">All 12 universes are part of a single timeline, and contain seperate space-times which is represented through a scroll or a crystal [That's in the crack of time]. Now, this is just my headcanon but this means just 1 timeline exists in an infinite loop. This is because all 12 universes timelines [Infinite] would be part of that one time scroll, and as shown, time is infinite. So even 1 timeline goes on an infinite number of times.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBH

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">First thing I'd like to say about heroes is that Beat is NOT stronger than Beerus. That was a game simulation from the "Real world". This is further proven when Giant Demigra defeats beat and then Base Goku defeats Giant Demigra. Goku being weaker than Beerus.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">High 2-A DBH:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/GYeFtnZtSHM

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">The CoT does exist in DBH which should be obvious.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">High 2-A [Higher dimension]/ Possibly Low 1-C [If the CoT is considered a higher dimension]

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://imgur.com/a/xrNRr

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">The "Real world" is a different dimension

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://imgur.com/gallery/znxtw

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">A dimension that see's DBH as fiction

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://imgur.com/gallery/FiUJk

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Demigra, '''transcended the space and time of the DBH multiverse, and was going to destroy it and was also going to destroy the real world. This includes the CoT The scan states he transcended space-time for the DBH world (dimension)'''. There was a "Debunk" for this being that it just means 1 universe since world=universe(???), but i've debunked that debunk near the end of the thread

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/MKRAE9PmurG

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">By the way, Towa was going to do the same thing. In fact, she was the one who did it first. But when she died, Demigra stole her powers and then did it himself. [And no, even before that he was still powerful enough to destroy the DBH multiverse]. So a DBH Towa profile if made, should be High 2-A or Low 1-C

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/ZismtyAATDp

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/fsB8DqUnQaH

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Base Goku [Who's stronger than Demon God Demigra might I add] defeated Chamel [Who has Demigra's power] who also was going to destroy the '''DBH Multiverse and transcended the space-time of it to affect the "Real world." Goku also transcended the space-time of DBH.'''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/Mhi6vYSGYru

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Chronoa held the DBH multiverse and the "Real world" together, stopping both from collapsing. So she would also be at what tier Demigra gets.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Dokkan Battle:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/105260110313954866070/posts/EoorPMfzVKW

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''Beerus has been stated able to destroy all of existence, which has infinite timelines and the Crack of Time. This likely includes the "Real world" as well, since Dokkan is apart of Heroes. This scales to (Base) DBH Xeno Goku (Remember, Dokkan is also connected to Heroes) as he can fight Beerus pretty well, albeit lose who in turn scales to Demigra's final form who went toe to toe with Base Goku. What really gives this weight is that this is Beerus from Battle of Gods arc when he fought SSJG Goku, while he was holding back immensly. ''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">'''Please do not ignore even one scan. They are back each other up.'''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Important Edit: Before I hear "But the real wold isn't specifically stated to be a higher dimension" and that "It's out of context"  I would appreicate a better debunk than that because it's defintely not out of context. It's a Dimension ["Dimensional transfer complete! (when beat was about cross dimensions and enter the DBH multiverse)], that views the DBH Dimension as Fiction. The only way the characters have shown being able to affect the "Real world" was by Transcending the space-time of the DBH Multiverse/Dimension/world

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Also. When they say "World" they are meaning that persons DIMENSION.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">So it actually means '''"Your dimension!" (When Chronoa speaks to beat) [Which, again, the real world is stated in the manga to be another dimension'''] World=Dimension/existence depending on the context.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">This is further backed up in fusions [Blatently shown to be connected to heroes https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/AVWBufebghC (Just to make it easier)] when the characters are told about the frabic of the world and how Beerus helepd create it. That it took energy from the WORLD, all of time and space across existence to rival a God of Destruction. So yeah world doesnt just mean 1 timeline or universe lmao.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Basically, I and many others believe this is Low 1-C because the even the Crack of Time is a space/dimension beyond the space-time of the infinite 4-D multiverse and contains the infinite timelines as well, and of course the real world transcends the space-time of the DBH Multiverse in its entirety including the CoT. Although, High 2-A shouldn't really be out of the question because the characters did transcend the DBH Multiverse in it's entirety, even if you don't consider the Crack of Time the 5th dimension. This is for DBH by the way. In terms of Dragon ball Xenoverse, they should be High 2-A via the statements of the Future Warrior and possibly the Crack of Time

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-top:0px!important;">And speed:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Most important scan (s) probably:      

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/KbiTz6hLzmd 

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''^^ Every single Dragon Ball game is part of DBH. All statements and feats scale to DBH.''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Speed  

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Boudokai Tenkaichi:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/bs37qkoJcKg

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Goku and Kid Buu fought at instantaneous speed

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBO:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/RUztShPpMFk

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Mira transcended time.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBX:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/9bgvQT6RZiG

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Towa, Mira and Demigra exist beyond the natural flow of time

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/u/0/+rs53abxdafg/posts/NwePaaYAsYh

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Demigra can exist beyond time space and so can the Future Warrior and Goku [Remember that the crack of time is a space/dimension beyond the space-time of the DBX Multiverse]

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/UHg9rWVSh2M

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Xenoverse Goku knows Cooler, which means their feat of fighting at instant speed stands

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBH

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/JvA9zit1boM

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Supreme Kai of time, Vegeta and trunks can move in the Crack of Time. The only people that have been able to exist there have 4-D power. Kai of time is 4-D because she can destroy timelines and Xeno Trunks is stronger than her. An earlier scan about the CoT states it's beyond space and time of the 4th dimension [which is infinite]

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/eiqwVb6Ch49

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Towa, Mira, Trunks and Chronoa exist beyond space and time [This is not referencing the crack of time. They literally just exist beyond it]

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">DBFZ

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/9A2Ljo5Bvy8

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Hit's attacks are beyond time

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">This would give all game profiles Immeasurable speed.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://imgur.com/GA9ntLd

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">More.(all credits to bluetreking.)

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">The Charismas view the DBH Multiverse with infinite timelines as fiction.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/4a/OLmE8pW.png/revision/latest?cb=20171119184105

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/d/d9/Gamez_r_uss.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119185800

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">Chamel states he is the Demon God avatar

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/7/7c/Chamel_stating_he_is_avatar.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119190225

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/34/Chamel_stating_that_he_is_avatar_small.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119190714

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">'''The Charismas are confirmed to make cahracters and avatars in the DBH Multiverse. This should include Chamel as he is an avatar. '''

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/9/9d/Proof_of_them_developing_the_game.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119191620

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px!important;">'''Are not a part of the multiverse and clearly see it as fiction as they are showing the player how to play DBH as shown by the SDBH official guide. Are even responsible for the creation of DBH. In the background of the images, you can even see the Charismas are viewing the events of DBH as fiction.''' https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/d/d7/Proof_of_them_not_in_the_multiverse.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171119193400<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">rguments against it:

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''"That's obviously just metafiction." -  '' In DBH Charisma mission, it is confirmed that the games are actual multiverses. It is confirmed by the author stating it is a manga adaptation, refering the multiverse as a game, and Chamel referencing being the God avatar from DBH: UMX game and Salsa stated to be a Demon God from DBH. It should also be noted that the main characters in DBH Charisma mission are confirmed to be making DBH UMX games and characters in the games so this should include 2-A Zen'o. They should also be superior as Zen'o is nothing but fiction from their perspective.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">''"That's just another timeline with it's information in another form of media." '' -  The only connection to the multiverse that the the Charisma world has is that the multiverse is the equivalent of a game. Chamel refers to himself as the God avatar from DBH: UMX instead of another timeline.

<p style="font-family:Monda,sans-serif;font-size:14px;"> And this is my official last comment here.