Talk:Groudon VS Kyogre/@comment-25656629-20150812015731

As much as I hate to admit it, this isn't a fair match at all. Kyogre has, every advantage possible. Pretty much deadlier moves, typing (which applies with the deadlier moves). And, really it's gonna come between Attack and Special Attack, with Defense and Special Defense.

And thanks to the whole type advantages thing, there isn't much there. And if it were to remove type effectiveness, I don't know how much of a difference it would make. And while Desolate Land could be a problem. It shouldn't drag on for long enough that Kyogre gets killed by Groudon.

And once that does, Primal Groudon is gonna be more of a hinderence than an advantage when it comes down to it. While there are probably other factors I didn't look into, imo ultimately the really big upper hand is in favor of Kyogre