User blog comment:Fedora Lord Para 348/Defending Death Battle Fanon: A Series by ParaGoomba348/@comment-26363797-20150803203919/@comment-96.255.112.88-20150811235623

@Grnmachine1

'by "shut off" I mean revert Ben back to normal. It would take at least a few seconds to choose another alien, so Danny might could get an attack in there. THats what i meant.'

Except there is nothing that Danny could do to Ben that would somehow shut off the Omnitrix. I addressed how wrong that is in the paragraph you quoted!

''"The Omnitrix would NEVER shut off (in this fight). It returns the user back to normal after a period of time. But that doesn't matter, as the Omnitrix's fail-safe would keep Ben alive by switching him into a different alien (multiple aliens if need be) to keep him alive. So the idea of Danny just waiting Ben out is useless. Especially considering that Danny would have no idea that Ben (without Master Control) has a timer, what the Omnitrix is, what it does, know about any of its functions, what the aliens are, or any of the aliens weaknesses. Giving Danny such information before the fight wouldn't be fair to either character." ''

You're just repeating the same thing over and over again after I have already disproved it.

'''The part i was referring to was "He's saying if The omnitrix shuts off, then Ben is vulnerable to Danny's attacks. I messed that up, but it doesnt change the outcome." in the context of how Ben died. I should have been more specific, but still.'''

Except the Omnitrix won't shut off. PERIOD. So speculating about the Omnitrix shutting off and no longer working is a waste of your time. You use the phrase "But that doesn't change the outcome" I don't think it means what you think it means. Ben wouldn't die as the Omnitrix's fail-safe would keep him alive. Trying to argue against that is pointless, so just stop.

I dont know all of these alien's abilities (Its been awhile since i reaserched Ben),

And that's somehow my fault because? What are you trying to say? Thats not an argument, thats a confession of ignorance. Just because you don't know about certain aliens or their powers, doesn't mean that they wouldn't be used or mentioned.

'''Echo Echo uses sound attacks IIRC, and Danny can easily counter with Intangibility. '''

While Danny is intangible, he can still hear. Thats been proven in the show multiple times. Echo Echo attacking with sound waves would still affect Danny. Heck, one of Echo Echo's attacks (Echo Chamber) bombards the opponent with sound waves until they give up, or lose consciousness. Remember: Intangible does not mean Unbeatable.

'''Clockwork can stop time and time travel. Since time travel could be considered fleeing, stopping time is the only option.'''

Then it's obvious that you don't know much about Clockwork. In addition to stopping time, slowing down time, speeding up time, he can travel through time, shoot time rays that can transport his opponents to another dimension, age the target to dust, and can bring people back that was erased from time. It was used by No Watch Ben in response to the Chronosapien Time Bomb erasing every other version Ben in every other Universe. Who considered Time Travel as fleeing? You can use it to know what happens in the future and avoid it in the present. Thats one of the reasons Maltruant was so dangerous. Being a Chronosapien, he used his chronokinesis abilities to know what would happen in the future before it actually happened in the present. He used his powers made a joke of Ben 10,000 and his wife Kai by literally freezing them in time before the fight even started! Time Travel isn't running away from a fight, it's just an OP ability. Chronokinesis tends to be that way.

And that really isnt much use considering he has to change aliens to attack Danny, and the power would stop as he changed.

What are you talking about? Clockwork could slow down or outright stop time, then age Danny to dust. Or send him to another another dimension for a TKO. Provided that Clockwork successfully slowed down/stopped time or froze Danny in time, he wins. Successful Time Stop+Lasers that can age your opponents to dust (or transport them to another dimension)=End Of Fight. No real arguing that. Danny is done for.

Diamondhead might be able to land a hit on Danny, but Danny can heal and/or use his Body Manipulation.

Diamondhead can also trap his opponents in crystal, make his projectiles explode, and could make crystals inside objects and make them spike out. Ben's strength is mostly in his diversity, and hax powers.

Feedback redirects Danny's attacks, which can easily be gotton around by simply doing nothing.

You don't know much about Feedback either, do you?

1.) Danny would have no knowledge of Feedback or how his powers work.

2.) Feedback can also absorb energy off of his opponents and other living things. He doesn't need to wait for his opponent to throw energy attacks at him.

3.) Feedback doesn't need to be the alien Ben immediately chooses. The Quick Change Function exists for a reason. Ben could be Diamondhead, or Heatblast, and when Danny fires a laser at Ben he can change to Feedback or AmpFibian to absorb it. Ben has used the quick change feature to transform into an alien while he was already a different alien. He has shown doing this in every series. Specifically Alien Force and Ultimate Alien. Ben isn't helpless when his alien has a counter, he can change into something else whenever he wants to. That, AND the well known Omnitrix Fail-Safe would change Ben into something else to survive. The Omnitrix has also been shown to protect Ben from possession (By Zs'Skayr) while in an alien form in the episode Ghostfreaked Out. It has also been shown to contain the creation of a universe, so there is no attack that Danny has that could legitimately kill Ben.

The Omnitrix's Fail-Safe+Possesion Protection while Transformed+Quick Change Function= As far as Danny is concerned: ''An Unkillable Ben. ''

Sorry, i fail to recall these as well.

Again, that's my fault how, exactly? Just because you don't know about some of Ben's other aliens, it doesn't mean that they should be thrown out the window.

'''Yeah he can be speed blitz'd... for about two seconds.'''

I don't think you know what speedblitz means… XLR8 he's been proven that when he is running, time appears to stop. Danny would even know what s happening, let alone properly defend himself. And Jetray has been shown to fly faster than light and enter hyperspace in the episode Eye of The Beholder.

Considering his healing factor he can simply wait out XLR8 and Jetray by staying intangible until Ben changes.

Again… Danny would know what XLR8 and Jetray are, or have knowledge of their abilities. He would get speed blitzed before he would know what happened. And The Quick Change Feature would shut down a defensive intangible Danny doing nothing anyway.

'''Okay, but Danny has more experience doing ghostly stuff than Ben does, plus IIRC Ghostfreak is vulnerable to ice attacks. Not to mention Danny is much faster than Ghostfreak.'''

"Ghostly experience" means nothing. And Ghostfreak is not vulnerable to ice attacks. Where did you hear that from? While its true that Danny is much faster than Ghostfreak, I put him on the list of aliens that could hurt Danny. Considering that the Omnitrix's fail-safe would keep Ben alive, the Omnitrix would protect Ben from getting possessed by Danny while transformed, and Ben can change into a different alien anytime while he is already transformed. It means that: as far as Danny is concerned, Ben can't be killed.

'''It doesnt. Even if Way Big was used, Intangibility still counters it.'''

Way Big doesn't just have the size advantage, he could also tank any of Danny's attacks, can shoot lasers, and create cosmic storms.

 The "No outside help" Rule DOES exist,

No, it doesn't. And even if it did, Alien X is not "Outside Help".

Actually, i do think that Kurama is outside help

Well, you're wrong. Kurama is ALWAYS with Naruto. He is sealed inside him for peat's sake, and is incapable of being outside Naruto without the both of them dying. Shadow Clones are not "outside help", and Naruto using Kurama's chakra is not "Outside Help" either. If Naruto were to be in a DeathBattle, or even an ordinary Vs. fight, then Naruto will always be using Kurama's chakra. Because the rule doesn't exist and it wouldn't be outside help. They are literally inseparable. Do you think that Gaara using his Sand embedded with his mother's chakra and spirit is somehow "outside help" also? I hope not.

'''Aww, really? Thanks!'''

Yeah, it is.

'''...Wait, WHAT!? When did i do that? I wasnt making up little scenarios, i was responding to a section of your comment.'''

You were making up what-if senerios and spreading misinformation while conveniently ignoring 4 of the 5 claims in this comment. Like the option of Ben fixing Danny's DNA and gitting rid of his powers. Something that could be done and is acually possible in this fight. Unlike the made-up "shut off" Omnitrix BS.

All the Fail-Safe does is cycle through the aliens

Wrong again. It turns Ben into the alien he needs to survive when he is about to be killed. The fail-safe turned Ben into multiple aliens in Omniverse so he would contain absorb the energy of the Anihilaarg. And even if that were true, and all the fail-safe did just cycle Ben through random aliens, it would still help him greatly by not letting Ben die in a fight. I can't believe that you're jumping through hoops to try to spin that the Omnitrix's fail safe (the thing that had Ben survive and contain the energy from a Big Bang) somehow Isn't useful. It's sad.

'''and the Quick Change feature doesnt change the battle much at all. It just leaves out the parts of Ben choosing his next alien, and eventually, EVENTUALLY, the omnitrix would have to shut off, leaving Ben vulnerable to Danny's attacks. '''

As I said many times already, the Omnitrix would NEVER shut down while fighting Danny. ''END. OF. STORY.'' Have you not been paying attention? The Quick Change Feature would help Ben greatly, he could change into multiple aliens whenever he wants without needing to return to his human form. Combine that with Protection Against Possesion, and the ability to automatically change into any alien when he is about to be killed means that it is IMPOSSIBLE for Danny to KILL BEN.