Talk:Super Smash Bros. 4 Newcomer Battle Royale/@comment-26385028-20150715123222/@comment-25993979-20150716123630

"I never said he was in our universe, just in a universe higher than the one Shulk was in."

What defines a universe being 'higher' than another?

"There isn't any live TV here."

Considering the player is watching everyone else fight in real time....

"The player is fictional, but not separate. He is a video game player, but not a video game character. Shulk is a video game character, not a video game character. Shulk is just coding and can't mess with the player, while the player can mess with a character all he wants. He's bound to his own universe, but the player can affect the universe Shulk is in."

This is a result of your bias making it so that it happened in a video game. If it happened so that it happened in its own universe with no spectators, Shulk would win. The only reason Duck Hunt won is because you made it impossible for him to lose by being in real life. Besides, the IRL player and the sniper from duck hunt are still two very different people!

"The outcome would not have changed. Shulk is, and will always be, a video game character, thus a character on a higher plane of existence can do things to him like he's a video game, since he is. It would have just occurred, even if the fight was not in a game itself. Whatever form of the universe Shulk is in, he couldn't escape the universe. "

WHAT DEFINES A HIGHER PLANE OF EXISTENCE!?!?!??!!? And you havent responded to this: Even IF, and thats a major IF, the sniper is from a different universe, how does he shoot his bullets at everyone else? If he uses a dimensional portal, than anyone could go through that portal and kill the sniper.

...And shulk still cant die to bullets! They'd be an inconvinience at the most.