Talk:Leonardo VS Greninja/@comment-27166130-20170111223743

Sir, while you wrote a good fight, you really were lowballing Greninja, and i feel as though it should be the rightful winner of this match. Here are some of his feats from a respect thread on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4m928v/respect_ashgreninja_pokemon_anime/

According to these feats, base Greninja has: -held back a Dragon Claw from Charizard X using Cut, said attack was capable of destroying large chunks of ground during a previous fight against Absol and in base form, was capable of slicing through metal -Knocks back Avalugg, who weighs half a ton for refrence (WAY more impressive than throwing around manholes) -Matched Sceptile in strength, who earlier outmatched Pikachu who was able to knock several logs into the air with Iron Tail -Has a direct hit from several strong attacks INCLUDING Dragon Claw from the same Charizard with no noticeable damage, in contrary to its percueved fraility (as in it could easily take a hit from a sword and fight on). Other feats of durability include taking hits from super effective attacks and continuing its fight.

Overall, you wrote a good match and Im aware its just for fun, but, at least against Leonardo's current incarnation, I believe Greninja would have been the winner in a real Death Battle.