Talk:Vision VS Android 17/@comment-27019676-20190617043323/@comment-27019676-20190701032614

I fully accept Universal Goku now.

But that doesn't mean I'd accept 17 being Universal. Getting bumped up 5 tiers because you fought the one person whom exceeds baseline Universal power makes absolutely no sense, and is nothing more then an outlier to me.

And would his hand to hand skills matter? Vision has kept up with similiar skilled beings like Thor himself, someone who is a very skilled fighter in his respected battlegrounds. Not to mention several other abilities too.