Talk:Berserker/Heracles vs Tubal Cain (Dies Irae)/@comment-35994965-20180818152447

I disagree for some reasons

1. you say Berserker is faster than saber and archer, saber in Fate/Zero can keep up with rider who has FTL speed scaling in here https://plus.google.com/+MasterAce/posts/gFF6b3xeBPg and for archer in fate stay night unlimited blade works route when archer fight lancer again despite slower he can still able to dodge Cú Chulainn's spear, which is states to be a flash of light, even lancer's movements are become invisible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ax9TL7GZM&t=30s  in 1:25 in Fate/Extella, Iskander states that Cú Chulainn's spear is faster than the light  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogDw321-1-4  in 18:17.

2. Berserker can shatter Gilgamesh's Enkidu chains, despite it being a disadvantage of him being divine. Gilgamesh's Enkidu chains can hold back the "Bull of Heaven" which states it brought about a flood and dark clouds that covered the world, causing a seven-year famine and destruction to occur on earth, in his legend he even held the sky.

I not disagree with the results but I really uncomfortable when you use less detail on berserker