Talk:Vegeta vs Darkseid/@comment-24182548-20170217115050/@comment-25930937-20170218102037

Look. I can use maths/science to prove that goku is actually universal. When two shockwaves appear at the same time, they add each other up. So if beerus punched with the force to destroy half a universe and goku did the same, the force would add up, creating a shockwaves capable of destroying a universe. Now if we remember how he then fought beerus in his base form with the same power, he is now half universal in base. SSGSS is basically SSJ1 with that same Ki. Vegeta and Goku are pretty much equal in strength, so Vegeta by now MUST BE at least 10x universal if not more.