Talk:Vision VS Android 17/@comment-27019676-20190617043323/@comment-27019676-20190710033822

1. So a vague picture with parts cut out of it is suppose to verify Vision loses because Thor 'one-shotted' him? Also hes recently done better against him and considering hes fought and knocked out Count Nefaria, who is stated to be as strong as Thor consistently, then yes he can face threats like him.

2. You clearly did not read what I actually said. Never did I refer to the strongest attack was to be ignored because of regeneration. I mean pure combat in general, its debatable if his strongest attack can instantly vaporize Vision or not, but you clearly didn't read what I said at all. And no, I wouldn't tell you he'd survive against Odin because Odin is far beyond Vision and 17 either way so that point is irrelevant.

3. Theres a clear difference with what you're saying; the human Z-Fighters perhaps might've earned their tier bump (and to my knowledge I wouldn't say 5 at least, isn't Krillin Planet Level?) but thats because unlike 17 they had time. 17's training didn't get him to Universal in 7 years, and again, he hasn't shown anything other then facing Goku in that tournament to my knowledge so I still won't consider him Universal.