Talk:Andross vs Black Doom/@comment-30408599-20161114204603/@comment-27921095-20190630202143

Arwings are FTL and likely planet level if you take the comics into account; multi-contintental otherwise.

Black Doom fought an early Super Shadow, and we haven't seen Super Shadow used beyond Solaris, so it's questionable if he even gets MFTL+ from something only Sonic has done so far.

It's more debatable than you'd think.