Talk:Ness VS Frisk/@comment-28493289-20160518202057/@comment-27448264-20160519010925

Hey, easy, don't be so hostile. This is a wiki for fictional character matchups. Not trying to pick any fights here, just casual debate.

LV isn't just RPG leveling, as quite clearly established by Sans. It's a mental handicap measured in desire to hurt. Kill more? You become less hesitant to kill, LV goes up, and you're more effective against the emotion and magic-based monster population.

Again: ''LOVE is mental. Not a way of measuring power levels DBZ-style.''

The most sociopathic character in the game (Chara) reaches LV 20 by the end. Even Flowey is scared shitless by Chara's misanthropy, so by basic logic, Flowey has less LOVE, six souls or no.

Photoshop Flowey doesn't gain LOVE because he got a power boost. He's a helluva lot stronger, but stronk ≠ LV. Papyrus, for example, could probably match Base Undyne or Sans in strength if he applied himself. But because of his complete unwillingness to kill, he likely sits at LV 1.

He fucked with the game's files because Flowey, as a character, ''lies. He lies alot. ''Flowey is obviously toying with Frisk the entire fight. He has insta-kill and trapping attacks at his disposal, and can use both at the same time, but chooses not too until the end. Of course Flowey would want to scare Frisk (or on a higher level, the player) by showing them his ridiculously high LOVE. It's a psychological warfare.