Talk:Ness VS Ren Amamiya/@comment-35871513-20190810160520/@comment-39193289-20191226200021

What are the win conditions for DB? Is it one death = victory? Or are fighters allowed infinite ressurection as long as they have that ability.

You said that Ness can simply 'wake up and say "well that was a bad dream" (because that's what happens in the game if you die) and go to fight Akira. Rinse and repeat until he wins' if he dies. If we go by that logic, should we give Ren the same ability? Because in Persona 5, when Ren dies, he appears in the Velvet Room, where Igor allows him to either rewind time to a week ago or go back in time to the beginning of the battle, allowing him to restore his body but keep his memories.

If we give Ness TOTU and we give Ren his time manip with Velvet Room, then I think we've reached a stalemate.