Talk:Kenichi vs Little Mac/@comment-44289584-20191104053543/@comment-30813774-20191112045312

@Godzillafan2004 Alright, I'm just gonna list down a few reasons why the scaling to DK isn't legit, and for the record, you ARE indeed scaling him to DK despite what you claim, as you are taking DK's power and speed, and then applying it to Mac. If you were not scaling Mac to DK, we wouldn't be having this talk, now would we?:

-Huge outlier, as people in Mac's verse are consistently Wall Level, and DK is Country Level. By the way, did you know Peach was actually supposed to be the secret boss in Punch-Out!! Wii instead of DK early in development? Would you believe in MFTL+ and Large Star Level Mac if Nintendo went through with that? It also doesn't help that DK is a secret boss, who again, '''has a power level far beyond those in the Punch-Out!! Universe''', ergo, not making it consistent. There's also nothing in the game to hint that Mac got some huge power boost prior to this secret boss, so you can't make the argument that he somehow got himself to that level

-The "he can do this in Smash Bros" debate is completely invalid. Mac can hurt like, ANY OF THE CAST in Smash Bros. Sakurai has confirmed that the canon of Smash Bros is that all of the characters are toys being played with, which is a pretty good explanation for why the cast members can all hurt each other (due to the lack of direct story corralating with each fighter), if we ignore the obvious game mechanics of a fighting game, where everyone must hurt each other for the game to be fair (ex. Think of how Dan Hibiki can hurt Akuma in gameplay. It isn't legit for scaling, but its a mechanic for the game to be fair). Also, since when are movesets confirmed to be canon? Sakurai gives Zero Suit Samus new stuff which he claimed to do to "toughen her up"

-Donkey Kong was also in a boxing match. He did not have the chance to show off his true combat potential. If this fight had no restrictions, Mac wouldn't have the speed nor durability to react or survive even one blow

-Your Tracer vs Widowmaker example is very poor in this debate