Talk:Frisk vs. Isaac/@comment-30834324-20161224045656

Frisk's strongest weapon is determination and only one people/thing can have enough determination to control the timelines:when Frisk arrived Flowey lost it and in genocide/netrual endings chara/flowey had the power to do it(I'm not sure about Asriel in pacifist, maybe he was the one who respawned you).

And maybe these "determination" powers only available in the underworld because if It would be available in the entire world the owner of these abilities most likely wouldn't be Frisk(I mean just think about the number of people in the world) and Flowey only lost It's powers when Frisk arrived in the underworld.

So if the fight would be in the underworld/with determination the winner would be the kid with more determination.I think it would be Isaac because fear from death is probablly create "some" determination but maybe even the reason of the fight can change that, for example Isaac wants to kill Frisk's friends...

If we only check the abilities, Frisk's only ability is determination(and it didn't exist) and Isaac have:flying,items recreating him, destroying items(for example dr.fetus), lasers, brimstone,different kinds of godlike items,teleportation.etc

So without being in the underworld/without determination the winner would be oblivously Isaac.Yes Frisk have some weapons but these weapons are melee what isn't really helpful versus flying+ I think Isaac could use these weapons too.

Two other possibilities:

If Isaac's world isn't real and he only created his "world" in his mind(accepted or maybe even confirmed theory) then in the underworld he would most likely lose because he isn't really determinated if he even creates worlds in his mind because of mental problems

-If the fight would be anywhere else or both worlds are false then it would be a fight of two kids and in this case I have no idea...(Isaac can use tools/weapons too, right?)