Talk:Flowey vs. Dimentio/@comment-26374068-20151225071338/@comment-28986599-20160710135608

Even though this is a dead post, this needs some fact checking...

Here are the base facts

Offense

Mario has 10 hp at lvl 1

Frisk has 20 hp at lvl 1

Defense is not relevant in either situations

All damage in the Mario universe is 2x as deadly, considering only the numbers.

In the beginning, flowey's pellets deal 6 damage, which is 3 in the Mario universe.

At the first dimentio fight, his basic energy attack deals 2 damage

Converting this to undertale makes it 4

Flowey's pellets deal more damage, and are faster then dimentio's, causing flowey to have basic attack advantage.

I think, (If my research is correct) that the flame box from Dimentio deals 4 damage. This means 8 in undertale terms. This is also a moderately fast attack.

In total, flowey deals more damage much faster then Dimentio...

Durability

Dimentio has 80 hp in undertale terms,

But flowey's hp is unknown. It could be any where from 20 (due to not killing anything yet) to 99 (from killing everyone)

It probably is about 60 (the average)

In durability Dimentio might win (unclear facts)

Dodging capabilities are equal.

With the facts all in check, it is an unclear tie.