Talk:Bowser Kingdom VS. Eggman Empire/@comment-11365739-20171202203130/@comment-35005463-20180429140222

1. Just because Starship Mario is a level select menu vehicle doesn't mean that it can't be counted as a feat, it still travels between galaxies in seconds, it still crosses many galaxies (Or possibly just one universe, depending on your views) in about 13 seconds. And you might be right about the robot thing, however, if an organic being can attain universal power with it, would it really be too much of a stretch for that machine to have universal power?

2. True there... except the fact that no one in Eggman's army can even come close to hurting the Megahammer since it is so much faster.

3. Ok... why can't Mario Party be counted just because of minigames? It's almost as if you just want to throw out a feat with almost no evidence besides "Mario Party has Minigames". I'll lay it to rest if you make a better argument, but this feat is canon in the game, after the Bowser fight minigame, it's a cutscene where these things happen. Eggman keeping up in that machine would seem pretty good... if he was even fast enough physically to keep up with Bowser and the higher ups.

Here's all of Mario's FTL feats that I havn't mentioned before and don't include Dreamy Bowser or Paper Mario

FTL: Bowser outruns a black-hole in his Giant Form. Again a Giant Bowser who resists this black hole until he's defeated. In Mario Party 8 Bowser and whoever he's fighting arecompletely unaffected by a powerful quasar below them. Bowser is only sucked in once he's defeated.

FTL+: Scales to Mario and everyone else in Mario Party 6, all of whom can outswim a black hole. Mario and co should be beyond the event horizen, since light is trying to escape, and is still being sucked in.

Massively FTL+ Bowser scales to those in Mario Party 3, who fought the Millennium Star, which flew from the center of the universe to Earth in a couple of seconds.

If you still disagree with many of these feats because they are minigames, please explain your reasoning.

Also, if Infinite were including, even with his army, he has an army that is Planet level, which can't even really hurt Bowser, who at least has survived many black holes, and has many feats that would be Universal+ and Low Multiversal (Multi-Universal for those who prefer this term), or at least scales to Mario who does have these level feats.