Talk:Raiden vs. Undyne/@comment-27682253-20160323014346

@saikou Never said that determination did not exist, i simply meant that determination is not physically tangible, it wasnt physically touchable  just because he doesn't have a soul doesnt mean he cant have feelings, he felt scared after realizing he could die at the end of the genocide route, he even said "..whats this feeling..?" while shivering  No, monsters do not have a lot of determination, humans are naturally able to hold large amounts of it but it was stated numerous times that monsters have little amounts of determination, if anything at all, Alphys stated it herself * we will have to use what we have now... The SOULs of monsters. the reason why mosnter souls could not persist after death was because they lacked determination, matter of fact Alphys had no idea what determination was until she did experiments, as she stated "Ive found it...lets call it "DETERMINATION"
 * ENTRY NUMBER 3: But extracting a SOUL from a living monster would require incredible power... Besides being impractical, doing so would instantly destroy the SOUL's host. And, unlike the persistent SOULs of humans... The SOULs of most monsters disappear immediately upon death. If only I could make a monster's SOUL last.

Of course she didnt have it when she was dead, she had it when she was alive like all humans naturally do



