Talk:Yuuka Kazami vs Omega Flowey/@comment-2239243-20170723145827

While Omega Flowey does have more power in general thanks to his save/load abilities, I'm inclined to lean towards Yuuka for three reasons. The first is that Flowey is unstable with the human souls fighting against him from within, so long as you can evade his bullets long enough to see one begin to fight back against him (something really any high level Touhou should be able to do considering the difference in bullet intensity between the two games) then he's going to gradually get weaker as the fight progresses, getting to the point when really Yuuka's overwhelming physical power would be enough to obliterate the flower. This could be countered via saves and reloads, but only to the point of a stalemate.

The second is Yuuka's ability to manipulate and control flowers. This... honestly leaves me unsure how Flowey could hope to fight back when all Yuuka would have to do would be to exercise her Ability a little bit and bring her opponent to heel. Even if Flowey were somehow able to resist her complete dominance, she'd almost certainly be able to dampen his own powers with this, potentially countering the save-reload powers.

Finally, there's the whole deal that Flowey is a monster and cannot persist after death, he'd have to reload a save point before the killing blow was dealt otherwise he's dead, and with all of the above combined with Yuuka's generally higher speed and overwhelming power, even if she can't block his saves and reloads, it's likely that she can just kill him too quickly for him to reload a save point.