Talk:Jin Kazama vs. Ryu/@comment-29966464-20160924131136/@comment-28772223-20160924173252

It depends on which Hadoken you are talking about. Ryu one punched Monstrous Necalli, an ancient god, not just some robot. Akuma while holding back made the Ki blast reach the space in 6 seconds, and Evil Ryu uses more Satsui no Hado than holding back Akuma, and the Mu no Ken is supposed to be stronger than the Satsui no Hado.