Talk:Undyne the Undying vs Sans/@comment-31265036-20170717203201/@comment-26036704-20170812163231

"1. This isn't a game. If you are implying that Sans can beat someone with armor and determination you're more stupid than I thought." 1. Both his and Undynes attacks directly target the soul Armor ain't doing shit to stop that. And Sans has beaten people with more determination then Undyne. 2. Nice add homin attack

"Karmic Retribution wouldn't work." Oh my gosh I hate it when people Call KR Karmic retrebution mainly because KR has no offical title

"Monsters' defense lowers when they don't want to fight, so of course they would be able to defeat Asgore."

I mean Asgore was wearing armor How should his defence lower unless Armor in undertale is just kinda for show.

"About this... Sans is perfectly capable of killing Frisk with his bullet hell attacks."

Not really His bullet hell really doesn't work as well with IV frames.

"Also, KR only works on bad people." prove it With any EVIDINCE beyond "It's called KARMA" or "It fits thematically" because I've debunked these arguments to hell and back numerous times.

"It's literally called KARMA, aka getting what you give." The game only refures to The purple poison as Karma The IV frame skip Is compleatly diffrent. Proven by the fact there are several attacks That Don't include the purple poison AND guess what dialog ISNT TRIGGERED by them I'll give you a hint ANY DIALOG OPTION RELATED TO KARMA

"If you commit genocide, you would get bad karma, so you would get hurt. If you are a pacifist, you will get good karma, so Sans won't hurt you."

I know what karma is But the points irrelivent When not only is it implied to be Soul poison not the IV skip effect.

BUT THERES NOTHING REALLY POINTING TO IT ONLY AFFECTING BAD PEOPLE.