Talk:Cumber vs Broly/@comment-27176073-20190306083101/@comment-33032147-20190417161635

Plus, Goku post ToP should be at the very least universal+. You can even go to low multiversal if you want to highball him. Let's make Goku universal+. Now broly is fighting on par with this same Goku at just Wrathful, meaning that he still has over 50x more power because that isn't Super Saiyan yet. He then goes Super Saiyan, forcing Vegeta to hop in with Goku to challenge him. Still, Broly is stronger than both of them, 2 universal+ beings. Goku and Vegeta then fuse to make Gogeta, who, going by his own statements, is not only Goku+Vegeta, but also Goku x Vegeta because he said "not only are our powers combined, but greatly magnified." The only reason Broly got shit on by Gogeta is because Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta is massively more powerful than his Full Power Super Saiyan form (saiyng he is in Legendary Super Saiyan is pure headcannon because it hasn't been stated anywhere before). If Gogeta decided that he would pull a Vegito and toy around with Broly, then Broly would have most likely adapted and gotten stronger. That's just how it works. It would have been like that with Cumber, because of my previous statement that Cumber shows interest in unique forms.