Talk:Ness VS Frisk/@comment-29731324-20170918212742

Frisk would win with ease.

Honestly, Frisk smacks, and I'm not biased when I say this. Chara destroyed the multiverse knowing Frisk would survive, and also reconstructed it again after 10 minutes of waiting around. Photoshop Flowey was directly stated to be stronger than Chara. Further proving this point is that Photoshop Flowey is Lv. 9999 while Chara is only Lv. 20, meaning Photoshop Flowey is 499.95x stronger. Base Asriel is infinitely stronger than Photoshop Flowey, and regular Asriel is many times stronger than that.

Not only was Frisk able to hurt Photoshop Flowey while preoccupied, she even tired out Asriel to the point where he couldn't kill her anymore while both were at max Determination output. Even Photoshop Flowey was above space-time itself, so Ness gets blitzed unless he is too.

Even if Ness were somehow also that strong(he's not), Frisk can just HOPE and get an insane durability boost, and DREAM to obtain ~8 Last Dreams, which heal 85% of her HP pool. Even IF Ness were to get around all these factors and bring her down, Frisk can simply SAVE and LOAD to bring only herself back to her peak condition, exactly like Photoshop Flowey can(that's her power too).

Plus if Frisk has the Temmie Armor, she gets longer invulnerability frames if she even gets hit(post-hit invulnerability is canon), gets an extra 20 Defense, heals 5% of her HP per turn, and gets an even further AP boost.

Overall, Frisk wins easy.