Talk:Mario-verse VS Sonic-verse/@comment-30294856-20161209021816/@comment-30294856-20161230125725

Okay, first off, Solaris is NOT Multiverse level. There is not much evidence of a huge amount of timelines. Sonic CD only shows one other timeline, so Solaris would be Multi-Universal. Dreamy Bowser, from one of my calcs I did estimating the number of dreams, would likely be Multiverse level, so Dreamy Bowser is more durable. As for his temporal omniprescence, Bowser could wipe out multiple timelines all at once. Since a single timeline includes the past, present, and future, Solaris would be obliterated.

Also, the profile for Solaris on VS Battles Wiki says: Likely between Low 2-C and 2-B, so they are not saying he is definitely Multiversal. The difference between Dreamy Bowser and Solaris is that Mario and Luigi could physically beat him on their own. Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver needed to attack Solaris' weak spots to defeat him. Mario and Luigi didn't need to do that.

Well, Dino Ranger Black is taking another look at my thread. It hasn't been closed yet. Also, VS Battles Wiki isn't always accurate tbh.

Well, you could actually make that assumption.

The Wings of light protected Solaris from a trio of Universal+ super forms, but could he be protected from multiple timelines being destroyed? Not really. Solaris tries to consume the Mario timelines? Dreamy Bowser and Zeekeeper step in and obliterate him.

I still stand by my opinion that Dreamy Bowser, Antasma w/the Dark Stone, and Zeekeeper stomp even Solaris. Overall, the Marioverse should win.