Talk:The Joker Vs Roman Torchwick/@comment-27190018-20160713014514

This was a fight where Torchwick did indeed have all the advantages statistically on paper, but when the actual scenario unfolded out, Joker should have come through to pull off the win.

You’re absolutely right in that Torchwick’s weaponry outdid the Joker’s, but the counter you listed for the venom is not enough. Roman stayed out of the action in fights when he had mooks available to fight for him; other than that, he was up close either in his Paladin or in hand to hand. He still beats Joker in those categories.

But... Roman’s an idiot. He’s cunning, he’s quick in battle, but as we all saw, he lacks awareness of his surroundings, which can sometimes mean not having a smoke, and other times mean getting eaten by a giant fucking bird. Joker is the master of the ambush and at playing dead, and has plenty of tricky weapons he can use to catch people off guard. He’s also sneaky enough to play the mind-reading Gorilla Grodd for a fool, and nearly kill HIM in a surprise attack. Roman beats the Joker to shreds, Joker survives because he’s just that good at surviving, Roman walks over to beat him to death because Joker pissed him off too much, Joker pulls the surprise attack, venom or bomb or whatever.

In conclusion, Roman’s weapons, armour and skills were superior, but his personality should have cost him the match.