Talk:Lucy Heartfilia vs Red(Pokemon Adventures)/@comment-27824241-20151029221618/@comment-28751846-20151030010731

It was calc'd at City level+ http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=25207

"this is POKEMON ADVENTURES RED! not ash ketchum. Ash's feats are like...lame compared to Red. Like i know ash died...like 3 times (lol) but Red has survived being stuck in ice for like a long time AND HE BEAT THE POKEMON LEAGUE! Something that even  Ash couldn't do, so even if lucy could beat him, Red would put up a better fight than Ash"

So winning over 45 badges,defeating Kanto Battle Frontier(which required him to defeat not one but two legendaries) is lame(That's just two of his out of many of his amazing feats)? Since when did ash die? ash was frozen soild to,he also Is completely unfazed by Charizard using overheat while he's riding it, despite the fact that [http://gfycat.com/CreepyMagnificentGoldeneye overheat is hot enough to melt ice in seconds. ]

AND HE BEAT THE POKEMON LEAGUE! Once, again plot convinces