Talk:Darth Vader vs. Arturia Pendragon/Saber/@comment-25951993-20150813013211

Friendlysoicopath you really are as dumb as a sack of potatoes. Saying " Vader does stupid things in combat."

Hello! to say that Vader should lose because of that is no different from saying Saber should lose because she always rushes in heads-on because of her stuborness and chivalry.

Look nothing personal but, I'm a Rin Fan and yet even I Know Saber will be unable to defeat Vader, the way she is under Shirou Emiya.

Also, even thought Avalon is really powerful healing being able to full heal all of Saber's injuries and put her in a completly saperate and different dimensional realm, it is only temporary, and like her other Noble Phantasms, it requires a ton of Energy to activate.

And more importantly with no Master to back her up. Remember she needs her Master beside her to supply her Mana. Meaning they must atleast be within their range of sight or at least a few kilometres away. So how the hell could Saber possibly be able to use it all the time when she has such a finite pool of Mana and Prana. And especially now when we remove the master back up element from the equation.

Keep in mind the Servants mostly win their battles thanks to the support of their Masters.