Talk:Knuckles the Echidna vs Natsu Dragneel/@comment-26184007-20191204103132/@comment-39775068-20200123183015

Late and most likely a bad idea as I might give spoiler hints, but I feel like I should give an actual response this time.

"He can only keep up with Sonic's casual Mach 1 running speed."

Except from the fact that he's kept up with Sonic more consistently when Sonic was going at his truer speed. Sonic's casual speed is most likely much, much higher than Mach 1. I hate to use Death Battle's research as I disagree with them a lot, but as calculated in Mario vs Sonic 2018, in Sonic Unleashed, Sonic can achieve speeds of over 9000 (insert Vegeta) miles per hour. This is most likely his "casual" speed as he was clearly running through populated areas (clearly people could be seen in Arid Sands Day). You're whole argument of basic movement being "game mechanics" can be applied to the Sonic and Shadow encounter in Sonic Adventure 2. If gameplay was "game mechanics" then Shadow keeping up with Sonic is an outlier. Gameplay and game mechanics (in terms of vs debating) are two very different things. Gameplay would be Sonic running. Game mechanics would be Sonic dying after 10 minutes. If I got that right (hopefully), then that basically renders your whole "Knuckles can't keep up with Sonic" argument null.

Of course, this is all subjective opinion, and I know I'm powerless to change how you feel, nor do I want you to change your mind. If I worded it wrong, I'll happily take a warning without second thought, but I just wanted to bring that up.