Talk:Sans vs Silver/@comment-26374068-20170215222056/@comment-26374068-20171222013957

>Asks me if I'm high

>Says he's "respecting" my opinion

I should seriously take you to the rule violation report. Cool it. Asking me if I'm doing weed is not something you say to someone you're "respecting," and I take real offense to that.

Aside from that, no, Sans is not just Transonic. Napstablook managed to notice Flowey's light and close their blinds before the light could reach the window... when the light was on their doorstep. And Sans is way faster than Napstablook. So no, Sans is FTL.

Also, how is he not Universal+ when he killed a nearly completed Genocide Frisk being possessed by Chara--who is basically a hop away from full power which they used to destroy the entire game--thirteen times?

Also, Solaris is not Multiverse level. And even if he was, Silver doesn't scale at all. Solaris was only threatening the universe. So while he would destroy all timelines, he'd only do so one-by-one.

And Super Silver can't scale to Solaris since it's highly questionable whether Sonic, Shadow and Silver actually harmed him. They attacked weak points of Solaris' which makes the feat very questionable and the feat was never explained. Super Sonic suddenly became much stronger than his consistent feats and even split his power in three to empower Shadow and Silver. Not only was the feat not given a reason to exist, but Super Sonic has yet to be explained to be inconsistent by any of the designers, so he needs consistency; and this feat is really inconsistent. Not to mention that, while they broke through some of his defenses, they never really harmed him, and merely destroyed his consciousness, thus bypassing his durability by attacking his soul. Heck, he would have come back if they didn't blow out his candle. It's more consistent for Low 2-C especially because Super Sonic basically stomped Time Eater, and Super Silver scales to that.

Also, no one in Undertale except Sans can move Frisk's soul with a mere gesture. That is indeed telekinesis.

And also, his durability is Wall level. He was completely unaffected by the temperature in Hotland, which is hot enough to turn a Styrofoam cup and the water inside of it into vapor, instantly. That's some intense heat, since by Science, it's practically impossible to elevate something's water beyond its boiling point instantaneously. So no, he should indeed be Wall level. Maybe even higher.

I agree Super Silver wins now since he's way faster, as he has an MFTL+ feat via scaling. But Sans stomps the crap out of base Silver.