Talk:Human Torch vs Natsu Dragneel/@comment-3463132-20180703012947/@comment-3463132-20180704044208

If Torch's flames don't work- he's not going to fly down and punch Natsu. Regardless of how well his fire works that will never be his next method. His typical counters when flames fail are to make giant tornados that will rip apart tanks or do something more exotic like burn all the oxygen from the area so his opponent can't breathe. Torch has quite literally no reason to fly down and try to punch or kick Natsu.

That's aside from the fact that he can absorb energy from others- by force. So even if Natsu goes to another form- Torch can drain the energy from him and knock him right back to base.

Natsu eating any flame of any heat and any size is a NLF. If I throw a country-sized ball of fire at Natsu- can he eat it all? Planet-sized? Star? A No Limits Fallacy is any power that, without being understood, is insisted to not have a limit. Natsu being able to eat any flame, of any temperature, size, or make- is a NLF.

Not only that- Torch has superior feats of controlling flames and heat- meaning he might well be able to simply prevent Natsu from eating them in the first place. For Natsu to do that he must draw the fire into his mouth- which Torch can prevent happening. Natsu is not immune to being burned- it has happened several times in the series.

I do not know much about Pokemon and do not know why you have mentioned it, twice, in a thread that does not feature it.