Talk:Doctor Doom vs. Madoka Kaname/@comment-30570311-20161214210131/@comment-30570311-20161215055036

But the Living Tribunal is still the embodiment of the Marvel Multiverse. So, even if it was a 4D version of the LT, the Beyonders would have killed someone whose durability is Multiverse+. But I think Madoka can speedblitz.