Talk:Doctor Doom VS Bayonetta/@comment-31259708-20151228162956/@comment-3463132-20151228225023

"otherwise i dont think most debate sites would use it"

Popularity fallacy is not going to overcome how fallacious powerscaling is dude. And no, sites dedicated to actually figuring this stuff out like Comicvine, OBD, Narutoforums, Deathbattle, and yes- even VSBattles all have articles that point out how wrong it is to do so.

"you're saying he loses to guys like Spider-Man, Iron Man and Storm"

Because he did lose to those people- that's canon bro- if you want to dispute canon take it up with Stan Lee or whoever wrote those arcs. All I'm saying is if you just want to take his victories and not consider his defeats then you're purposefully inflating the character beyond what they're capable of.

" yet you say he deserves to beat Darth Vader who is a Relativistic+ w/ Light Speed reactions Country Buster"

Annnnnd that's why I told you that you shouldn't be trying to tell me what I think when you don't have a clue.

Vader isn't relativistic in fighting speed and can't tank country-level attacks; doesn't match canon or his feats at all. But of course, I'm downplaying, because I think the character isn't as strong as you do.

Just about every description in the EU, movies, and comics has Vader not even moving at hypersonic speeds, supersonic alone would be giving him more speed than he's ever demonstrated.

I've got multiple scans of Vader being harmed and thrown back by far less than country-level forces as well- but one (extremely flawed) calc says he can take it and suddenly none of those matter? Nope- have to remember the rest of the canon pal- especially where Star Wars is concerned since there's an actual hierarchy for the canon.