Talk:Ash vs Red/@comment-30870165-20170107131531

After doing a lot of research, Red wins. His pokemon can keep up with Ash's in terms of speed. Their strength and durability are also superior. Poliwrath alone could sweep half the team because he's extremely powerful in terms of strength. Heck, Red's Snorlax could keep up with Pikachu and already has the strength and durability advantage. The hardest thing to bypass for Red is Ash-Greninja, but his pokemon have the sheer power and survivability. Ash's pokemon are usually down after a strong hit, but not Red's. Ash does have the tenacity and willpower. Sceptile, Infernape and Greninja will prevent this fight from being a stomp. In terms of the trainers, Red actually fights alongside his pokemon and would utterly destroy Ash in a fist fight. This is close, but Red has it. I'm using his team from the manga until it's confirmed it's the team from Mt.Silva in which case Ash wins.