Talk:Undyne the Undying vs Sans/@comment-31265036-20170717203201/@comment-32797911-20170812215159

"Puts Charas defence at 99 which is the EXACT SAME as Undyne the Undying."

Dude, you're funny. Asgore with armor has the same defense as Toriel without armor?

That means Undyne has 99 defense WITHOUT the armor.

" "Sans only defeated Chara using KR, because those are rare attacks." The menu bones Arnt rare attacks And Considering the Gaster blaster barrage doesn't do KR but still Skips INV this implies That All Gaster Blasters Don't need KR to Skip Charas INV frames so unless you wanna claim there's something special about these Gaster Blasters Sans didn't need KR to take down Chara."

The Gaster Blasters use KR.

" Again Menu bones arnt rare Nor are sans Gaster Blasters."

The Gaster Blasters use KR. Why would Sans need to use Menu bones in a battle without menus? Plus invincibility frames are game mechanics.

"The same frisk Who Supposedly "Got weaker""

? ? ? ?

" Why doesn't he have time To watch the fight? It's not like he's preparing anything special AND He never apperes on the genocide path post Snowdin.

" And I could argue Killing Anybody DESPITE your intentions Is Bad/evil

Again Karma is vague Because you can Call Practically anything a Bad deed that needs to be punished. you can say Just Injruing a person who didn't wanna hurt you Like IDK A human Who's running away from You IS A EVIL THING. You can clame anything is evil So yes Karma is a vague thing Since it never specifies The Bad deeds that get punished."

Undyne thinks killing you is a mercy, not a bad thing. Plus it's technically not a BAD thing either because at the cost of 1 life, all monsters would go free. Sans said Frisk was smiling when running away, so Frisk wasn't afraid when running away.

" Why doesn't he have time To watch the fight? It's not like he's preparing anything special AND He never apperes on the genocide path post Snowdin."

He's preparing for an enemy more powerful than Flowey and has MORE determination than him (Flowey) and is FAR, FAR more evil than him, plus plain BETTER, with better stats, more cunning, skilled and determined. Of course he would be busy preparing.

"The screen flicker attacks are Sans teleporting"

He's not teleporting, he's changing his patterns.

"He can teleport, plus his reaction speed is far faster"

He can't teleport. Even if he could, teleporting doesn't magically change your soul state. Not only that but if he doesn't know about the attack patterns, the fourth attack (a fast one) is too unpredictable to see coming, not only that but Chara's attack patterns are just the swing of a knife, six bullets, a pan, papercuts... which are easy to dodge considering Undertale.