Talk:Sauron VS Darth Vader/@comment-26194911-20151222192936/@comment-3463132-20151223032025

Well, 5th time posting is the charm?

@Warp

Correct, you trying to debate against me is quite pointless, as shown by you rebutting every point I just made about why that calc shouldn't be used.

@SuperGoku

Vader's "planet-level" feat doesn't even have Vader's name in it. It involves an entirely different character and is associated because "They're both Sith Lords right? So they can do the same stuff!"

^This of course being the reasoning behind 9/10ths of all Star Wars scaling.

Vader has never taken nor dealt a planetary attack- so he is not planet-level; simple as that.

And his one supposed continent-level feat has several holes (mentioned above) and also ignores the many feats he has that places him as far below that level.

Leia, Luke, and Boba Fett have all managed to knock Vader on his ass and damage him- canonically shown, no calcs involved- are they all packing continent-levels of firepower? Or is continent-level Vader simply wrong? That's up to whoever is in charge for the battle.

@Des

Chaos admitted he was assuming things and was just going off of what was handed to him by whoever asked for the calc. He even says so for the continent one.

I find it extremely dishonest to dismiss all of the limits a character has shown throughout their career  and just take one high-end and call that the normal level of the character.