Talk:Goku and Saitama vs Mario and Kirby/@comment-30408599-20200205001650

Saitama's Star level at best for countering a star busting attack, & FTL at best for casually killing someone who can achieve near light-speed.

Mario's defeated foes that can create stars, galaxies, & even universes, & Kirby's in a similar ballpark by defeating enemies that can warp solar systems & break down time. Not to mention they've both travelled galaxies & universes, putting them far above Saitama in speed.

From what I've heard, Goku is stronger & faster than Mario & Kirby, but I haven't heard any arguments for intelligence, experience, arsenal, or weaknesses.

Overall, I think it goes like this. Mario or Kirby easily defeat Saitama, leaving Goku to fight them both on his own. He'll give them trouble with his strength, speed, & skill, but Mario & Kirby will outnumber him. In the end, they both will eventually beat him with their impressive arsenals consisting of Power Mimicry, Attack Reflection, Absorption, Duplication, Regeneration, Transmutation, Empathic Manipulation, Possession, Summoning, & Time Manipulation.